US strike kills Iranian Quds Force commander

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Jhhnn

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So reading a bit more we basically assassinated the most broadly popular person in the Iranian regime. This is really going to work out in our favor.

Not just in Iran but in Iraq as well. And, I mean, we can't remove a President from office while we're at war can we? Even if he led us into it on the basis of contrivance? Of course not. Hail Trump! Support the troops! Bomb the shit out of them!
 

Starbuck1975

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Not just in Iran but in Iraq as well. And, I mean, we can't remove a President from office while we're at war can we? Even if he led us into it on the basis of contrivance? Of course not. Hail Trump! Support the troops! Bomb the shit out of them!
Regardless, we can agree that intentionally targeting Soleimani was impetuous, ill conceived and with no consideration for the escalation it will now cause.
 

Jhhnn

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Yes I am aware of the Sunni vs Shia allegiances. We’ve always had a contentious relationship with Iran.

It’s not unlike how America found common cause with the Soviet Union to eliminate Nazi Germany only to face off as bitter enemies before the shell casings in Berlin were cold.

The Islamic State created a temporary common enemy, but there is also the implications of Iran expanding its reach and influence into Iraq. Things have escalated in recent weeks over allegations that those Shia militias are now targeting Americans with rocket attacks.

Those allegations have no evidence to support them. Not one bit. The Trump admin lies about everything else, so why not this?
 

sportage

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Well, I guess this makes it a lot harder for Dem candidates to promise bringing back the Iran deal. Trump scores again!

Yes.... this is another reason why Donald Trump will be easily re-elected.
As horrible as that prospect sounds, it is inevitable.
 

randay

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Regardless, we can agree that intentionally targeting Soleimani was impetuous, ill conceived and with no consideration for the escalation it will now cause.
Disagree, trump has been impeached, and now faces trial in the senate. his reelection is in jeopardy. this seems a well though out, carefully planned strategic move. leveraging foreign assets for personal gain is his forte.
 

UNCjigga

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So reading a bit more we basically assassinated the most broadly popular person in the Iranian regime. This is really going to work out in our favor.

Yeah, basically the second most revered Iranian figure next to their Supreme Leader.

Here’s the rub—the Pentagon knew what a shitstorm this action would stir up. They probably had some leverage in whether to even present a lethal option for Trump to consider. Call me naive, but I don’t think the Administration would take this action as a response to a contractor being killed and an embassy riot. They must have had some other intelligence (regardless of the credibility) of an imminent threat.

That said, I have no confidence in this Administration to navigate the coming shitstorm and deal with the blowback responsibly.
 

Z15CAM

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" U.S. kills Iran's most powerful general in Baghdad strike" SHIT! I'm Canadian WTF !

I feel sad for the Iraqi People.
 
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pauldun170

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Just going to repost this instead of posting some long post about what we have done in the region and nothing Iran has done compares to the shitstorm we've caused in that region for the past couple of decades.
 
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Jhhnn

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Yeah, basically the second most revered Iranian figure next to their Supreme Leader.

Here’s the rub—the Pentagon knew what a shitstorm this action would stir up. They probably had some leverage in whether to even present a lethal option for Trump to consider. Call me naive, but I don’t think the Administration would take this action as a response to a contractor being killed and an embassy riot. They must have had some other intelligence (regardless of the credibility) of an imminent threat.

That said, I have no confidence in this Administration to navigate the coming shitstorm and deal with the blowback responsibly.

Or maybe they just want to start a war & contrive ways to have it.
 

Jaskalas

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Iraq government calls U.S. assassination of top Iranian general an "act of international terrorism"*

My source doesn't seem to cite this. Can I get a reference to back up this statement? Pretty big deal if true. Although it would match an earlier statement from December 31st.
 

Pipeline 1010

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They must have had some other intelligence (regardless of the credibility) of an imminent threat.

Maybe they do. I lost all faith in the whole "our intelligence knows things we don't and they know that we HAD to invade/bomb/attack the foreign country because threats and shit" line of thinking after things like Clinton bombing the aspirin factory and GWB's war in Iraq. I WANT to believe that there's secret info and we are the good guys. I WANT to believe that our government only acts justly and nobly and when necessary. I am consistently disappointed, disillusioned, and cynical about this.

Time will tell.
 

DarthKyrie

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Yes I am aware of the Sunni vs Shia allegiances. We’ve always had a contentious relationship with Iran.
Concern duly noted. What did I state that is factually incorrect.

You do know that the CIA killed their popularly elected leader the first time that the people of Iran overthrew the American puppet that was the Shah? Our contentious relationship with Iran didn't start until the Shah was overthrown the 2nd time and the Ayatollah was put into power by the people of Iran. Those same people would never have taken Americans hostage or put the Ayatollah into power if we hadn't killed the leader that they wanted.
 

JEDIYoda

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Mark Esper understands the implications of this strike.

This strike, and the level of targets eliminated, dispels any doubts to Iran’s meddling in Iraq.

It is possible that we didn’t know that Soleimani was on the ground. His death certainly escalates things. However, given the nature of his role and influence, his presence certainly raises other questions.
First of all his presence does not raise other questions -- unless your Donald Trump!!
But knowing you , excuses for Trump are the order of the day!!
 
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JEDI

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"U.S. air strike kills Iran, Iraq officials" - Reuters

An air strike at the Baghdad International Airport early on Friday killed Iranian Major-General Qassem Soleimani, head of the elite Quds Force, and Iraqi militia commander Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, an Iraqi militia spokesman told Reuters.


Why was a top Iranian general in Baghdad? did he have diplomatic immunity?
what is the Iraqi militia? are they Iraqi govt soldiers? or just para-military?

Why was the Iraqi militia commander with the Iranian general?
is the Iraqi militia backed by Iran?
 

JEDIYoda

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"U.S. air strike kills Iran, Iraq officials" - Reuters

An air strike at the Baghdad International Airport early on Friday killed Iranian Major-General Qassem Soleimani, head of the elite Quds Force, and Iraqi militia commander Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, an Iraqi militia spokesman told Reuters.


Why was a top Iranian general in Baghdad? did he have diplomatic immunity?
what is the Iraqi militia? are they Iraqi govt soldiers? or just para-military?

Why was the Iraqi militia commander with the Iranian general?
is the Iraqi militia backed by Iran?
Can I answer all your questions?
It does not matter!! It probably is none of your business...lolool
 

JSt0rm

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Regardless, we can agree that intentionally targeting Soleimani was impetuous, ill conceived and with no consideration for the escalation it will now cause.

join us in voting dem. Do it for the future generations
 

JSt0rm

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"U.S. air strike kills Iran, Iraq officials" - Reuters

An air strike at the Baghdad International Airport early on Friday killed Iranian Major-General Qassem Soleimani, head of the elite Quds Force, and Iraqi militia commander Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, an Iraqi militia spokesman told Reuters.


Why was a top Iranian general in Baghdad? did he have diplomatic immunity?
what is the Iraqi militia? are they Iraqi govt soldiers? or just para-military?

Why was the Iraqi militia commander with the Iranian general?
is the Iraqi militia backed by Iran?

all of these questions were answered 2 years ago.,
 

JEDIYoda

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Regardless, we can agree that intentionally targeting Soleimani was impetuous, ill conceived and with no consideration for the escalation it will now cause.
You are so funny to presume we all agree with your analysis of the situation....rofl….hahahahaaa
It is fun being a contrarian!!
 

amenx

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As bad as Saddam was, now we can appreciate why it was a bad idea to invade Iraq and remove him from power. He was the single most important force for stability in the region, the only one who could keep Iraq together and out of the influence of Iran and other foreign entities. Had he still been in power, there would have been no ISIS, no foreign backed militias of any sort, and he himself would be too weak to cause any trouble or military misadventures outside of Iraq. But just strong enough to keep Iraq functioning enough for stability for his regime and the region as a whole. Now Trump, an absolute incompetent, is trying to deal with the mess the other Republican dimwit (GWB) started in 2003. Good luck with that.
 

woolfe9998

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Khamenei

“harsh revenge awaits the criminals” involved in the killing of Soleimani and others, in a message to the nation published on his official website.


Pretty much as expected. They're going to have to retaliate. One can only hope they don't try to escalate to something worse than what we just did.
 
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JEDIYoda

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Pretty much as expected. They're going to have to retaliate. One can only hope they don't try to escalate to something worse than what we just did.
You are correct when you say -- They`re going to have to retaliate....
 

trenchfoot

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Pretty much as expected. They're going to have to retaliate. One can only hope they don't try to escalate to something worse than what we just did.


It would seem Trump is hoping and praying that the Iranians take the bait in a very escalating kind of way.
 

ivwshane

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Pretty much as expected. They're going to have to retaliate. One can only hope they don't try to escalate to something worse than what we just did.

The smart move would be retaliation not on US soil. Trumps approval rating is low and will get lower with this move except for his cult members who will do a complete 180 and praise this action as “smart” and/or “strong”.

I’m guessing we will be in for some hostage taking which I’m sure will be released once trump is out of office.
 

cytg111

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I see Trumps reelection campaign has begun.
To contemplate giving up your life for cadet bone spurs in an illegitimate and treasonous war... Wouldnt wanna be ya. Hope NATO and all others stay out of this bs.
 
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