US to let Turkish forces move into Syria, abandoning Kurdish allies

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LightPattern

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I’ve heard 50 and I’ve heard around 1000
Not sure but maybe it breaks down like this
50 dudes who actually do stuff
200 contractor dudes who secure the previous 50s base
Couple hundred others to support them
Again pure guess.
Romney just spoke on Senate floor. Claims we are removing "1,500 troops" from Syria. And putting 2,000 troops into Saudi Arabia. So we're not getting out of the Middle East.
 
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HomerJS

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Romney just spoke on Senate floor. Claims we are removing "1,500 troops" from Syria. And putting 2,000 troops into Saudi Arabia. So we're not getting out of the Middle East.
So clearly what we have here is a math problem?
 
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Romney just spoke on Senate floor. Claims we are removing "1,500 troops" from Syria. And putting 2,000 troops into Saudi Arabia. So we're not getting out of the Middle East.

But the President said Saudi Arabia is paying us for them and paying us even more for them. Good to know we have a mercenary army today.
 

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NBC New Story

"The Kurds are very happy, Turkey is very happy, the U.S. is very happy, and you know what? Civilization is very happy. It's a great thing for civilization," the president said

WTF are the Kurds very happy about. That they got attacked and now have to leave their homes in 5 days? Where are they going to go?
 

dank69

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But the President said Saudi Arabia is paying us for them and paying us even more for them. Good to know we have a mercenary army today.
Yeah and who is "us" in the equation? The US or a Trump LLC? Or are they just renting out rooms and not using them?
 

hal2kilo

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Romney just spoke on Senate floor. Claims we are removing "1,500 troops" from Syria. And putting 2,000 troops into Saudi Arabia. So we're not getting out of the Middle East.
Add this to the pile.
Oh how I love this editor software.
 
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WelshBloke

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How many actual troops were removed from Norther Syria.

From what I have heard and read it was only 50.
What was 50 US troops going to do against thousands of Turkish troops and supporting equipment?

Knowingly attacking US troops is an act of war against the US. No nation state is going to declare war against the US.

Whether there are 50, 1000, 50.000 troops is irrelevant, they are backed by the whole might of the US military and every potential attacker knows that.

Well they did until they realised that your president was a complete idiot and couldn't tactic his way out of a wet paper bag.
 

Muse

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I haven't read the thread but thought I'd say that my strong feeling is that Trump is doing this to please his buddy Putin. That comes first, his personal alliances. It takes precedence over any loyalty to the USA.
 

WelshBloke

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I haven't read the thread but thought I'd say that my strong feeling is that Trump is doing this to please his buddy Putin. That comes first, his personal alliances. It takes precedence over any loyalty to the USA.
I think that hes just an idiot that listens to whispers.
 
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Nobody talking about how WE HAVE TO BOMB OUR ABONDONED BASES TO NOT LET THEM FALL INTO TURKEY OR RUSSIAN HANDS!
We are withdrawing so rapidly the bases can’t be demolished correctly, Turkey is advancing too fast it’s too dangerous to stay.
Democrats should be talking about this 24/7 was this part of the plan or did the President make a mistake.
 

Muse

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the whole area has been a clusterfuck for 16 years, may as well make it worse
Yeah, well, the best way to destabilize it even worse was for Trump to pull all US forces out of Syria. He is doing this because Putin was in his ear about it and Trump fell for it. He's such a patsy. No sense of history, no understanding the the balances of power on the world stage. He's just a disaster.
 

Muse

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Thank God we have a REAL President who stands for American excellence and not a coward who drops trou to foreign interests!
God? I trust no god who would curse us with Donald Trump.
 

LightPattern

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Nobody talking about how WE HAVE TO BOMB OUR ABONDONED BASES TO NOT LET THEM FALL INTO TURKEY OR RUSSIAN HANDS!
We are withdrawing so rapidly the bases can’t be demolished correctly, Turkey is advancing too fast it’s too dangerous to stay.
Democrats should be talking about this 24/7 was this part of the plan or did the President make a mistake.

ROFL!
You're going to make me burst an organ!
 

Muse

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This is AFAIK the biggest mistake that Trump has made. It's huge. I knew from the start there would be some monumental mistakes from him in office. So far, this appears to be tops. But it could get worse. There will be more big mistakes, you can count on it. It's kinda a big deal that he doesn't get a 2nd term.
 

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Yeah, well, the best way to destabilize it even worse was for Trump to pull all US forces out of Syria. He is doing this because Putin was in his ear about it and Trump fell for it. He's such a patsy. No sense of history, no understanding the the balances of power on the world stage. He's just a disaster.

I think he understands fine. Shouldn't mistake evil for stupidity.
 

pcgeek11

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Would you also rather leave ally and friend behind to get slaughtered? Wait that is not what happened.. Would you sell out your friend and ally to their enemy,tuck tail and run, to let them get slaughtered? Only now to realize that they have capitulated to Russia you arch nemesis. Now you are in bad standing with Turkey, Syria, the Kurds AND Russia.
Good job?


So good you didn't actually answer any questions.

Here is what I think.

If the Turkish were coming in regardless of my 50 troops. I would move them out and warn the Kurds what is going down so they could also prepare for the coming storm.

What would you do leave 50 US Troops to get slaughtered knowing that they don't stand a chance against 150,000 Turkish troops?

We should not have been in Syria to begin with.
 
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Jhhnn

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So good you didn't actually answer any questions.

Here is what I think.

If the Turkish were coming in regardless of my 50 troops. I would move them out and warn the Kurds what is going down so they could also prepare for the coming storm.

What would you do leave 50 US Troops to get slaughtered knowing that they don't stand a chance against 150,000 Turkish troops?

We should not have been in Syria to begin with. Thanks Obama and your red line in the sand.

It's been pointed out that there were about 1000 US troops in northern Syria with the Kurds. It's also been pointed out that the Turks aren't stupid enough to attack US troops. Period. There would be no Turkish attack had we remained in place. It's also perfectly obvious that the Kurds would deal with the Assad regime to counter the Turks, and that's just what happened.

Assad wins. Putin wins. Erdogan gets to be the bad guy, even though Trump gave him the green light. Trump claims victory on behalf of the Russian Federation.
 
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