USA becomes Food Stamp Nation

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Lifer
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The economy sucks but there's no way 1/6 people REALLY should be getting food stamps.
 
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The economy sucks but there's no way 1/6 people REALLY should be getting food stamps.

50% of individuals in the country make less than $25,000 per year. Roughly 80% now make less than $50,000. Unemployment is reported as 9+%, but of course once you add in the unreporteds you're at what, 15-20%? On top of that, CoL (especially food) is skyrocketing. With those kinds of numbers the only amazing part is that the number on food stamps is so low. I'd expect 30-40% honestly.
 

Ausm

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Good, it stimulates the economy.

/Pelosi

You need to blow your dog whistle harder...they only reason the rabid Right has a hard on over Nancy Pelosi is that she delivers RESULTS which make the Repugs look worthless.
 
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50% of individuals in the country make less than $25,000 per year. Roughly 80% now make less than $50,000. Unemployment is reported as 9+%, but of course once you add in the unreporteds you're at what, 15-20%? On top of that, CoL (especially food) is skyrocketing. With those kinds of numbers the only amazing part is that the number on food stamps is so low. I'd expect 30-40% honestly.

I'm sure there are exceptions but usually these people are okay with living at moms house and sucking the govt dry. You never have explained why it's okay for this scum to sit on the couch for 10 hours a day and cry about being broke while I work my ass off from sun up to sundown and subsidize this bitch?
 
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I'm sure there are exceptions but usually these people are okay with living at moms house and sucking the govt dry. You never have explained why it's okay for this scum to sit on the couch for 10 hours a day and cry about being broke while I work my ass off from sun up to sundown and subsidize this bitch?

Sure thing. You just provide me proof that that's what's going on and I'll get right on that.

BTW, 50% of the country lives at moms house? REALLY? 165 million people live with their mothers? When there aren't even that many mothers living in the country?
 

rudder

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Genna Saucedo supervises cashiers at a Wal-Mart in Pico Rivera, California, but her wages aren't enough to feed herself and her 12-year-old son.

Saucedo, who earns $9.70 an hour for about 26 hours a week and lives with her mother, is one of the many Americans who survive because of government handouts in what has rapidly become a food stamp nation.

As long as people are willing to work for $9.70/hour - 26 hours a week, walmart will pay that. as long as customers are willing to support walmart, walmart will need cashiers.

So do we blame the lady willing to work for that wage? Do we blame the consumers who support the walmart corporation? Or do we blame republicans who are against raising corporate taxes... since ultimately if walmart pays more in taxes, they will charge more for goods, and probably pay a little less for cashiers. Or should we blame the politicians in Washington who continually need more revenue to feed the monster?
 
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Sure thing. You just provide me proof that that's what's going on and I'll get right on that.

BTW, 50% of the country lives at moms house? REALLY? 165 million people live with their mothers? When there aren't even that many mothers living in the country?

I know poor people because I grew up dirt broke living in a run down house in a nasty ass trailer park. There are rare exceptions of a single hard working mom just trying to get by. For the most part though it's just lazy ass people sucking the govt dry because they can. Food stamps are a fucking currency for these people to buy drugs a lot of times or just like the receipt shown earlier for high dollar dining(steaks, lobster, etc..).
 

rudder

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this might have been true in 1950. since then, women have decided to enter the workforce and wanted to be treated the same. nowadays, you need two incomes to be socioeconomically equal to what the man brought home in 1950.

congrats women, you got what you wanted: to be treated the same. now you have to work for a living like the man, alongside the man.

the idea of the man bringing home the bacon is a figment of the past.

In 1950 the average house was ~1200sq ft. In 2011 the average house is ~2400sq ft. How many brand new cars were in the driveway in 1950 vs 2011? How many kids in 1950 were wearing the equivalent of $90 sneakers? How often in 1950 did families spend $30 to go out to dinner? How many TV's were in the house in 1950 vs 2011? What was the bill per month for TV in 1950 vs 2011?

My wife was a stay at home mom until my youngest started in school. We survived on one salary just fine. There are a lot of choices we can make to live a lifestyle that does not require two incomes.

anyway back on topic.... I think Family Budgeting 101 should be required for every high school student prior to graduation.
 
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As long as people are willing to work for $9.70/hour - 26 hours a week, walmart will pay that. as long as customers are willing to support walmart, walmart will need cashiers.

So do we blame the lady willing to work for that wage? Do we blame the consumers who support the walmart corporation? Or do we blame republicans who are against raising corporate taxes... since ultimately if walmart pays more in taxes, they will charge more for goods, and probably pay a little less for cashiers. Or should we blame the politicians in Washington who continually need more revenue to feed the monster?

There have always been low paying part time jobs. Just like there is an empty bunk bed in a prison somewhere. It's your choice if you'd like to stay there or not. Just like there is nothing stopping this woman from finding a better job.
 

Ausm

Lifer
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In 1950 the average house was ~1200sq ft. In 2011 the average house is ~2400sq ft. How many brand new cars were in the driveway in 1950 vs 2011? How many kids in 1950 were wearing the equivalent of $90 sneakers? How often in 1950 did families spend $30 to go out to dinner? How many TV's were in the house in 1950 vs 2011? What was the bill per month for TV in 1950 vs 2011?

Comparing the 1950's to 2011 is like comparing apples to oranges.
 

Modelworks

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What needs to happen with the food stamp program is it needs to be done like WIC. For those that don't know , WIC was created to make sure very young children and pregnant women would have a healthy beginning. WIC is not a cash handout and it isn't a 'here is $100' get what you want program like food stamps. WIC is set up on vouchers . On that voucher depending on the number of children in the home the mother is allowed a list like , 2 boxes of cereal, 2 gallons of milk, 2lbs of cheese, baby formula, baby food, juices.

If you look around your grocery store you will see wic tagged items in those areas. WIC is fairly picky because for things like cereal you can't just get any cereal , it has to be WIC approved based on nutrition it contains.

Do food stamps like that and you still feed families but you keep the cost lower and insure it goes to the people that need it most.

WIC approved foods:
http://www.nutritionnc.com/wic/pdf/NCApprovedFoodsOct012010.pdf
 
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Throckmorton

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There have always been low paying part time jobs. Just like there is an empty bunk bed in a prison somewhere. It's your choice if you'd like to stay there or not. Just like there is nothing stopping this woman from finding a better job.

Some percentage of people HAVE to work those jobs. It's insane to just accept that some percentage of the population has to earn less than a living wage and depend on the government to survive.

We all put oil in our cars, therefore we all depend on the people who work as roustabouts and roughnecks in oil fields. Yet we're OK with the shit wages they get, "because they can get a better job"?? That is total bullshit. If those guys get better jobs, others will have to take their place. The job doesn't go away because the worker moves up.
 

BudAshes

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Here in ca lots of weed growers use food stamps. Since weed is mostly illegal a lot of their profit is uncounted by the government. So they drive 40k cars and get foodstamps. Pretty awesome... not.
 
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I know poor people because I grew up dirt broke living in a run down house in a nasty ass trailer park. There are rare exceptions of a single hard working mom just trying to get by. For the most part though it's just lazy ass people sucking the govt dry because they can. Food stamps are a fucking currency for these people to buy drugs a lot of times or just like the receipt shown earlier for high dollar dining(steaks, lobster, etc..).

I've been somewhat poor in my life as well. My experiences have been mostly the opposite of yours (granted, with a few exceptions). Now where are we?
 

bart1975

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I use mine to buy mostly stuff for salads and healthy sandwiches. The big problem is eating healthy is not cheap.
 
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