Uverse Internet.. Fiber to home

[spacelord]

Uverse is telling me that they have fiber run to my house now and that the service is better than what they've been able to offer in the past.

Does anyone here have Uverse fiber, the 18mbps plan?

I've been spoiled with my Comcast 50/10 plan.. it runs great and has issues maybe once per year at most. I have great pings and latencies to TF2 servers.

Am I going to lose good ping and latencies with something like Uverse? I would think with the fiber, there should no longer be some of the limitations that all the copper had.

Uverse is offering me a much better TV plan.. which I could care less about, but I've made the family suffer long enough with basic Comcast cable because they charge so much and won't cut me any kind of deal.

 

[phucheneh]

The Uverse rep will tell you that Jesus Christ will personally deliver all your data packets, if that's what it takes to get you to sign. I highly doubt they have fiber to your actual premises.

Not that it should really matter at 18mb. I'm not sure if I have that or the next step up (if there is one), but I sustain downloads in the 2-3MB range and Netflix will still work on two different TV's.

 

[Worthington]

I have U-verse fiber. it really is fiber straight to the demarc. Actually was a massive PITA when I moved into this apartment as the premises equipment was all sorts of farked up. Took them forever to make it right but once they did it's rock solid.

 

[Fritzo]

The 18Mb plan will get you 14-15Mb throughput. Also their Motorola/Arris Uverse modem can't be fully bridged, and ATT's Youtube caching servers are saturated, making Youtube unwatchable during primetime hours.

I switched off of them to Time Warner. Got 30/5 with 34/6 throughput for $5 more per month.

 

[WackyDan]

Uverse is telling me that they have fiber run to my house now and that the service is better than what they've been able to offer in the past.

Does anyone here have Uverse fiber, the 18mbps plan?

I've been spoiled with my Comcast 50/10 plan.. it runs great and has issues maybe once per year at most. I have great pings and latencies to TF2 servers.

Am I going to lose good ping and latencies with something like Uverse? I would think with the fiber, there should no longer be some of the limitations that all the copper had.

Uverse is offering me a much better TV plan.. which I could care less about, but I've made the family suffer long enough with basic Comcast cable because they charge so much and won't cut me any kind of deal.

First of all, copper has the same capability of Fiber but over far shorter distance. SO the whole "Ooh! It's fiber!" is kinda moot. All it does is take a conversion out of the process but whether or not it makes a measurable different in latency is open to debate.

Just be thankful for the competition... For those of us out in the suburbs, FIOS and UVerse won't come out as we don't have the density that will pay for the high cost of the infrastructure.

 

[Krazy4Real]

I have FTTP 24mbps max turbo. It is advertised as 24 down and 3 up. Highest speed they offer in my area.

I consistently get 29 mbps down and 4.8 mbps up. I get sub 10 ms ping times.

I came from Comcast (50/10) and overall it is worse (speed wise not reliability), but it is the only product offered in this area other than Mediacom (which is utter crap). I've gotten used to it, but I do wish we had Comcast available here.

I used to have the max plus. It is advertised as 18 down and 1.5 up. I would get 20 down and 1.9 up. I couldn't handle that low of an upload. I got my circuit switched from BPON to GPON in order to get the higher speed. No cost, but it required an account cancellation and recreation, a truck roll, and a week without service.

 

[jlee]

Uverse is telling me that they have fiber run to my house now and that the service is better than what they've been able to offer in the past.

Does anyone here have Uverse fiber, the 18mbps plan?

I've been spoiled with my Comcast 50/10 plan.. it runs great and has issues maybe once per year at most. I have great pings and latencies to TF2 servers.

Am I going to lose good ping and latencies with something like Uverse? I would think with the fiber, there should no longer be some of the limitations that all the copper had.

Uverse is offering me a much better TV plan.. which I could care less about, but I've made the family suffer long enough with basic Comcast cable because they charge so much and won't cut me any kind of deal.

Get Netflix/etc and dump cable, save a ton of money, and keep the faster plan.

I'm getting 100Mbps (actually 125Mbps if I plug right into the modem) through coax with Cox. The only reason I'd go to fiber is for gigabit (i.e. Google) or symmetrical upload at 100Mbps+ (I get ~20Mbps up now).

 

[spacelord]

Maybe I'll call Comcast and ask them about how the proration happens when I cancel within the next couple of weeks. Maybe, just *maybe* they'll offer me some sort of retention deal that will appease the rest of the household with TV options.

 

[mizzou]

Uverse speeds are completely dependent on your relative distance to the nearest hub. If they offer it in the area, chances are you will have a good connection to their new network. Don't get confused when he says Uverse and Uverse Fiber. Uverse is just the new connection they have, which is much better then their old DSL setup.

It's fast, reliable, and pricing can be good. I'd say it's probably slower then what most cable providers are offering right now though. 18mbps is not very fast considering most are now offering 50.

A FEW citiies have the advance Uverse that's getting rolled out, speeds close to 100mbps or something?

 

[Vdubchaos]

If ATT was to offer me 1 million MB per second at 1 dollar a YEAR;......I wouldn't touch it with a 100 foot pole.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Isn't it so weird that 1-2 months after these new FCC rulings we're seeing a flurry of upgrades? Yeah, the cable and telcos were so eager to innovate and push competition!

Hell, I'm in a small rural Kansas town and all of a sudden now I can get 100Mbps. Granted it's $150 a month since there's no competition for it (oh, but there is, you could pay like $50 a month for 6Mbps/768k ATT DSL, which basically everyone that's had it has problems, we switched because the service sucked and I have a friend that's using it and it's gotten even worse). And they've really been able to offer this for probably 2 years at least (they actually went and laid the fiber throughout town like 10 years ago, but I'm sure their backend also needed improvements) just didn't because they had no reason to (see the no competition).

Uverse speeds are completely dependent on your relative distance to the nearest hub. If they offer it in the area, chances are you will have a good connection to their new network. Don't get confused when he says Uverse and Uverse Fiber. Uverse is just the new connection they have, which is much better then their old DSL setup.

It's fast, reliable, and pricing can be good. I'd say it's probably slower then what most cable providers are offering right now though. 18mbps is not very fast considering most are now offering 50.

A FEW citiies have the advance Uverse that's getting rolled out, speeds close to 100mbps or something?

I don't think that's true with the fiber, it'll function like fiber does for anyone else and won't be so tied to distance from their hub like their DSL was. The real U-Verse (which they rebranded their DSL as U-Verse too...) was just like how cable companies had rolled out fiber, where they laid most of the infrastructure (poles, to the junction boxes) but left it copper to the home. Since the lines ATT had were less robust than coax that cable had they couldn't offer the same performance, so now they're actually offering to put fiber to the home and will be able to offer similar. Of course there's other things (places with more robust fiber backbones and the like can probably offer faster speeds, which is why you see some companies offering 500Mbps, while most places seem to be seeing 50-150Mbps speeds).

Everyone is moving to fiber so it's really just how much they're willing to do fiber to the home and how robust the fiber lines they're going off of are.

Anyone know what speeds it is that cable companies would need to offer a direct fiber line to the building instead of coax?

 

[halik]

Switched from uverse FTN (near my house) to comcast last year, huge difference. Download speeds went up by factor of 4.

 

[Fritzo]

I have FTTP 24mbps max turbo. It is advertised as 24 down and 3 up. Highest speed they offer in my area.

I consistently get 29 mbps down and 4.8 mbps up. I get sub 10 ms ping times.

I came from Comcast (50/10) and overall it is worse (speed wise not reliability), but it is the only product offered in this area other than Mediacom (which is utter crap). I've gotten used to it, but I do wish we had Comcast available here.

I used to have the max plus. It is advertised as 18 down and 1.5 up. I would get 20 down and 1.9 up. I couldn't handle that low of an upload. I got my circuit switched from BPON to GPON in order to get the higher speed. No cost, but it required an account cancellation and recreation, a truck roll, and a week without service.

You were probably lucky enough to be hooked directly to the CO instead of a remote terminal. Most people are going to be hooked to an RT (especially at higher speeds) and get less than advertised speeds.

If ATT was to offer me 1 million MB per second at 1 dollar a YEAR;......I wouldn't touch it with a 100 foot pole.

TOP NOTCH hyperbole!

 

[Krazy4Real]

You were probably lucky enough to be hooked directly to the CO instead of a remote terminal. Most people are going to be hooked to an RT (especially at higher speeds) and get less than advertised speeds.



TOP NOTCH hyperbole!

All FTTP (fiber straight to the inside of the home) have similar speeds. It's the uverse that is run over copper lines that the majority of issues come from. This service is really reliable and you get overprovisioned for the speeds you pay for. The problem is that unless you are in a gigapower area, your speeds are slow compared to the cable providers.

 

[notposting]

You were probably lucky enough to be hooked directly to the CO instead of a remote terminal. Most people are going to be hooked to an RT (especially at higher speeds) and get less than advertised speeds.

TOP NOTCH hyperbole!

There is a CO up the street from me. As the crow flies, it's a third of a mile.

No idea if I'm hooked straight into it, but I think we have just regular DSL ("Uverse" branded DSL, though it's a giant moonship of a fucking modem now, so who knows?).

Also, it blows ass and I would run back to the fast, stable, low ping, suspended cap, low price and warm embrace of Comcast in a heartbeat if I could.

 

[BarkingGhostar]

AT&T stated a while ago that all data traversing its Uverse platform is theirs to do what it deems appropriate. This was in response to AT&T's backroom Fed warrant-less wiretapping activities.

So, if you get Uverse then also get a VPN service.

 

[slag]

The 18Mb plan will get you 14-15Mb throughput. Also their Motorola/Arris Uverse modem can't be fully bridged, and ATT's Youtube caching servers are saturated, making Youtube unwatchable during primetime hours.

I switched off of them to Time Warner. Got 30/5 with 34/6 throughput for $5 more per month.

I have the 18 mb plan through uverse and have no problems watching Youtube videos. In the past for a couple weeks at a time there have been issues, but nothing in the past 6 months.

 

[Phoenix86]

U-verse CAN be fiber to the home but I have never seen it implemented, it's fiber to the node, coax to the box. You can run cat-5 from there if you want, but the TVs will probably also be coax.

The 18Mb plan will get you 14-15Mb throughput. Also their Motorola/Arris Uverse modem can't be fully bridged, and ATT's Youtube caching servers are saturated, making Youtube unwatchable during primetime hours.

I switched off of them to Time Warner. Got 30/5 with 34/6 throughput for $5 more per month.

This has to be either a problem with your installation or region. I get 17 down on my 18Mb connection (I think it's an arris box).

I can view youtube in full HD with regularity, though there was a couple months where it was barely watchable in SD. That was around the time people started posting the firewall blocks to speed up youtube, but that's largely gone away.

I'm pretty sure they were too strongly throttling netflix/youtube and backed off the idea/strength of the throttle.

Speeds are a bit slower on u-verse than most cable connections but honestly, I only max out the connection a few times a month and only for a few minutes each time. 6Mb/person is typically enough these days.

 

[spacelord]

Go figure, the sales guy had no clue what he was talking about. Its only copper to my box.. I went and looked.
Just like at work.. the sales guys will tell people anything to make a sale.(leaving the engineers to work a miracle.. like Dilbert.. EXACTLY)

 

[Vdubchaos]

the sales guys will tell people anything to make a sale.( EXACTLY)

Is this some kind of a news flash.

This is what sales guy do. They lie and make empty promises.

Now you see why I don't trust them, not just in their profession either....it takes a special kind of a person do these sort of jobs.

 

[chimaxi83]

Uverse is telling me that they have fiber run to my house now and that the service is better than what they've been able to offer in the past.

Does anyone here have Uverse fiber, the 18mbps plan?

I've been spoiled with my Comcast 50/10 plan.. it runs great and has issues maybe once per year at most. I have great pings and latencies to TF2 servers.

Am I going to lose good ping and latencies with something like Uverse? I would think with the fiber, there should no longer be some of the limitations that all the copper had.

Uverse is offering me a much better TV plan.. which I could care less about, but I've made the family suffer long enough with basic Comcast cable because they charge so much and won't cut me any kind of deal.

18 megs is not fiber to the home. That's just fiber to the node, copper from node to your house. The sales reps are betting on consumers being dumbasses, and there have been many times a customer tells me something along the lines of "I didn't know there was fiber to my house already!"

Derp.

Here in the Chicago area, the suburb Skokie is the first to go live with our GigaPower service, which is 1 gigabit Internet max speed. We'll also have 300 (fiber), 150 (fiber or bonded pair copper), and 75 (bonded pair copper). It's going live in almost every market we have (minus 8 specific ones) in the next few months. The sooner we get off shitty outside plant, the sooner all the DSL/AT&T know it alls can stfu.

If anyone wants an address check, I'd be happy to look. Don't need specific address, just street name and whatever hundred block you're on.

 

[nickbits]

The best uverse that is offered here is 6 mbps. I think they just renamed their dsl service.

 

[BUTCH1]

The 18Mb plan will get you 14-15Mb throughput. Also their Motorola/Arris Uverse modem can't be fully bridged, and ATT's Youtube caching servers are saturated, making Youtube unwatchable during primetime hours.

I switched off of them to Time Warner. Got 30/5 with 34/6 throughput for $5 more per month.

I switched to U-verse last November and am having 2nd thoughts, 1st off is their compression methods for HD leave a LOT to be desired, vrey noticable artifacts even with a 2008 vintage LCD panel. Then last week you tube just stopped working completely for a few days, couldn't watch anything. Then they had a free HBO/Cinemax event over the holidays that they conveniently (for them) went to a subscription adding $27 to my bill, I didn't ask for a free pre-view and I didn't want HBO so I had to call today and get that all sorted out, they are going to credit my account for the two months, I still find it sneaky as hell to add it to your "plan" and hope you won't notice, F-ing snakes, all of them.

 

[spacelord]

all signs point to ATT being trouble.

Comcast didn't even seem to care that I called and asked how the proration for cancelling worked, and what equipment I had to return. I hoped they might put me to a retention department.

That sucks about the HD compression.

Do they ever charge for data over 250GB/month? I thought I never hit that.. for some reason I went over and around that for the past couple of months. maybe too much VPN with work stuff. I see the terms about 250GB/mo on the contract. although they said something that I was getting business class modem, etc. again.. might be a total BS sales move.

 

[chimaxi83]

all signs point to ATT being trouble.

Comcast didn't even seem to care that I called and asked how the proration for cancelling worked, and what equipment I had to return. I hoped they might put me to a retention department.

That sucks about the HD compression.

Do they ever charge for data over 250GB/month? I thought I never hit that.. for some reason I went over and around that for the past couple of months. maybe too much VPN with work stuff. I see the terms about 250GB/mo on the contract. although they said something that I was getting business class modem, etc. again.. might be a total BS sales move.

The data cap has never been enforced for customers who also have iptv. I don't think it's been enforced for any FTTN/FTTP services period. Yes, the HD is quite terrible in my opinion. Hopefully the gigabit service does something to improve that.