v4 4500 or geforce2 mx

[RoboTECH]

BFG:



<< <snip> True the S3TX issue is there in Quake 3, but turning it off doesn't hamper the fps if you run the game at around 800 x 600 res. >>



okay, but I don't wish to play @ that resolution, so it makes a difference to me (hence my 64MB GTS purchase)



<< You zombies complain about image quality? Look at the V3 in Q3! This thing is ugly as hell. The textures are all blurred and smeared and there is horrible banding in the sky and in any kind of fog. Not to mention the fps are absolute crapola. >>

err....I had a Diamond Viper 330 (riva 128) and it sucked royally in Q2, let alone Q3. What is your point? Now, agreed, the V3 is pretty weak for Q3, and pretty damn good for UT, but I'm not sure why a V3 would enter this discussion since we're talking about higher-end video cards.



<< And what about you RoboTech? Have you extensively tried a Radeon? >>


bro picked one up last week. Been checking it out quite a bit. Nice card. 16-bit sucks royally tho, heh....32-bit is incredible. Far better image quality than my GTS and definitely better in 32-bit than the 5500, no doubt.
My point was that I have first hand experience with ALL of these cards, and VERY extensive experience with both types of shipping GTS's and the 5500. So when you try to act like an authority on cards that you've never seen nor used first hand, when I have used them first hand EXTENSIVELY, I bristle a bit. Again, kinda like the 9-year old telling his Dad that Willie Mays is nowhere near as good as Ken Griffey Jr. (for example). &quot;YOu know not of what you speak, only of what you have been told.&quot;

sunner:


<< Hans that sounds like a driver/monitor/bad cable problem to me. >>

it's not. I've experienced the same thing.


<< Ive gone from G200 Millennium, to a TNT1, to a i752, and they all looked exactly the same to me, on a 19&quot; .26 monitor, running 1280x1024. >>

OMFG, dude.....that's funny.


<< Ive never been able to tell the differnce in 2D quality on any modern card, cept with extremely high end monitors running very high resolutions. >>

er...okay. Some of us have more forgiving eyes than others, I suppose.

 

[Sunner]

Just wondering, what kind of monitors do you guys have?
I can see huge differences between different monitors, but so far, the monitors have allways been the limiting factor, save for a few times when Ive been looking at high end 21/22 inchers.

Me, Im sitting by a Compaq S910, thats a 19&quot; with a .26 dp, compaqs P series has noticeably better image quality than these, but OTOH these have better IQ than my Belinea(I believe thats Maxdata or something like that in the US) at home, though the difference isnt big(the Belinea is a 19&quot; .26 dp as well).

But like I said, this monitor looks slightly better even thought Ive used it with a TNT1, G200 Millennium, and now an i752, and at home Ive used a TNT1, Voodoo3-3K, TNT2-Ultra, and now a GF DDR, all looked the same, and all looked slightly worse than this one.

 

[RoboTECH]

I have 2 monitors:

17&quot; Sony Trinitron (wh00t!!!!!)
19&quot; KDS-VS190 (damn good for the $$)

 

[Wingznut]

19&quot; Viewsonic PF790 (Trinitron)

 

[hans007]

hey robo did you get that vs-190 recently. My friend got it at buy.com for like $190 + tax and it seems real nice.

 

[RoboTECH]

$190????????

dude, I have a 19&quot;

dont' tell me it's only 190$ at buy?!?!!?!?!

 

[hans007]

yeah it was last week, they had free shipping, and the monitor was $220 and he used a $30 coupon. He thought it was a great deal. I&quot;ve got a vs-19sn, and well so much for &quot;short tube&quot; the vs-190 is like 1 inch deeper than the short tube one.