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Jaskalas

Lifer
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There's a significant portion of the US population consisting of illegals and other (recent) immigrants where their allegiance is to a foreign identity. A foreign body, a foreign flag. They are not US citizens but they hold majority control over many localities.

We ARE balkanized. There is no returning that land to US citizens, it has been culturally taken through means of migration instead of force. Typically it's expected we will not reclaim it by force. Ergo the current stalemate where they keep getting stronger and we sit by and do nothing.
 
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Wait, a REAL Canadian wouldn't have to try, it's innate for REAL Canadians... hmmm....

No, really. I LOVE maple bacon and our national animal the kangaroo! And snow! Yeah, snow! And hoocky, love the hoocky games! Love 'em!

Oh, look, over there! A Mexican judge!!!!
 

feralkid

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There's a significant portion of the US population consisting of illegals and other (recent) immigrants where their allegiance is to a foreign identity. A foreign body, a foreign flag. They are not US citizens but they hold majority control over many localities.

We ARE balkanized. There is no returning that land to US citizens, it has been culturally taken through means of migration instead of force. Typically it's expected we will not reclaim it by force. Ergo the current stalemate where they keep getting stronger and we sit by and do nothing.

You could always hide under your bed.
 

MajinCry

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There's a significant portion of the US population consisting of illegals and other (recent) immigrants where their allegiance is to a foreign identity. A foreign body, a foreign flag. They are not US citizens but they hold majority control over many localities.

We ARE balkanized. There is no returning that land to US citizens, it has been culturally taken through means of migration instead of force. Typically it's expected we will not reclaim it by force. Ergo the current stalemate where they keep getting stronger and we sit by and do nothing.

Where the hell did you come from, Windhelm?
 

buckshot24

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That's similar to asking if we can stop traffic law violations. Increasing enforcement can reduce violation, of course. However, in the case of immigration, the demand is driven by US employers who have a vested interest otherwise, and we're not about to start prosecuting white people when the point is to hate on the darkies.
That isn't what I'm asking. Is it wrong to try and make the border more secure? Is that more clear? I don't expect Perhaps you missed the context.

Why are you bringing up hatred? Is it hatred to secure the border? Is it hatred to have any impediment whatsoever at the border?

You shouldn't use slurs like that, it is offensive.
 

LegendKiller

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That's similar to asking if we can stop traffic law violations. Increasing enforcement can reduce violation, of course. However, in the case of immigration, the demand is driven by US employers who have a vested interest otherwise, and we're not about to start prosecuting white people when the point is to hate on the darkies.

No, we aren't about to do that. It's far easier for the political elites to get paid by the rich people to give them free shit and make more voters.

Meanwhile they suppress wages, fuck our schools, lower living standards, create more crime...etc


They wouldn't be here if we didn't have liberals and establishment giving the country away for free on the backs of the middle class.
 
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No, we aren't about to do that. It's far easier for the political elites to get paid by the rich people to give them free shit and make more voters.

Meanwhile they suppress wages, fuck our schools, lower living standards, create more crime...etc


They wouldn't be here if we didn't have liberals and establishmentrepublicans giving the country away for free on the backs of the middle class.

ftfy, people are coming here for jobs, stop that and you have stopped the problem all the while doing it without 'the wall'
 
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I am all for that. 50k per employee per day if they don't have an SSN or aren't here in some legal form.

ok good, we have common ground, that's a very good thing. Now, which is going to be 'easier' to do, forcing companies from very small to huge to comply and pay OR kick people out of the country, meanwhile companies continue to hire under the table?
Illegal immigrants are a soft target, companies, not so much, some have some pretty serious pull in DC, unfortunately.
Much easier to get the population riled up against the people they see every day instead of the corporations and companies that are doing the hiring. There is no quick solution, I tend to empathize with the plight of the people seeking out a better life rather than the people trying to fatten their bottom line.
 

leper84

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LOL the age-old "assimilating" argument. The US, unlike most other countries is virtually a pile of many different races, cultures, heritages who somehow manage to live together. There is no "master race" to assimilate into.

And you, living in a nation where people wave their flag over any even most trivial things should understand WHY other people may wave their flags.

Or are you saying she can not/should not/is not allowed to..SIMPLY because "she is Mexican", and this being reason enough that her being proud of her heritage is being a "bad" thing? WTF?

If you think that others "are not allowed to be proud of their heritage", it's nothing but pure, plain racism. It's almost as if saying that her being Mexican is "a bad thing", without any other further justification required. This exact sentiment that is slowly creeping [and actively planted] into American's minds.

Now I get why the Trump supporters just make it quick and call yall cucks.

Mexican is not a race, its a damn country. Proudly displaying another nations flag when you're here illegally, benefiting from out resources and bragging about doing it is just plain damn rude.

From what I've seen most people who naturalize legally are absolutely proud to be Americans, but they don't throw their culture and heritage away when they do that. It becomes part of the melting pot.

Don't shit all over the place your living illegally and then expect and demand you have the right to become a citizen. All I'm saying is if these protesters and people like the girl in the story showed a little respect to our country and enthusiasm to become Americans then maybe people would be more open to it. You can be proud of being Hispanic and from Mexico but also be proud to want to be an American at the same time. Plenty of people do it when they naturalize legally.

If asking people who want to be citizens to have respect for the place they want to immigrate is racist then this world is fucked.
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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There's a significant portion of the US population consisting of illegals and other (recent) immigrants where their allegiance is to a foreign identity. A foreign body, a foreign flag. They are not US citizens but they hold majority control over many localities.

We ARE balkanized. There is no returning that land to US citizens, it has been culturally taken through means of migration instead of force. Typically it's expected we will not reclaim it by force. Ergo the current stalemate where they keep getting stronger and we sit by and do nothing.

There are ethnic neighborhoods in every major American city that are more than 100 years old. Chinatown, Little Italy, etc etc. Places where they fly the flag from the old country and speak their mother tongue in the home generations later. It is fear mongering IMO to act like this is something new. Because it simply isn't.. not even with the Mexicans.
 

Vic

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Ground zero for the invasion, Southern California.
The Mexicans were in Southern California before the Americans were. I lived in Orange County for a while back in the 90s. Most of the 'illegals' you think you see are probably legal citizens.
 

LegendKiller

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ok good, we have common ground, that's a very good thing. Now, which is going to be 'easier' to do, forcing companies from very small to huge to comply and pay OR kick people out of the country, meanwhile companies continue to hire under the table?
Illegal immigrants are a soft target, companies, not so much, some have some pretty serious pull in DC, unfortunately.
Much easier to get the population riled up against the people they see every day instead of the corporations and companies that are doing the hiring. There is no quick solution, I tend to empathize with the plight of the people seeking out a better life rather than the people trying to fatten their bottom line.
And what about the people seeking out a better life but the wages are suppressed?

I'm all for going after the companies but barring that, the second best thing must be used.
 

flexy

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Much easier to get the population riled up against the people they see every day instead of the corporations and companies that are doing the hiring. There is no quick solution, I tend to empathize with the plight of the people seeking out a better life rather than the people trying to fatten their bottom line.

This is the exact same system that SUPPORTS outsourcing your job to China and allow Apple stash their profits in the Cayman Islands (and Trump et. al. not pay a dime in taxes).

There is methodology why JOSE from Tijuana is blamed by the Elites and so called "moguls" and not Mr. Jack Richerton from XYZ Corp.

WAKE UP.
 

Zaap

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ftfy, people are coming here for jobs, stop that and you have stopped the problem all the while doing it without 'the wall'

I'm all for it. (Honestly, besides the blatantly pro-illegal alien crowd, not sure who isn't.)

And no more 'sanctuary cities' while we're at it?
 

agent00f

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That isn't what I'm asking. Is it wrong to try and make the border more secure? Is that more clear? I don't expect Perhaps you missed the context.

Why are you bringing up hatred? Is it hatred to secure the border? Is it hatred to have any impediment whatsoever at the border?

You shouldn't use slurs like that, it is offensive.

But let's be honest here. You were trying to declare illegal immigrants "criminals" on a technicality for rhetorical effect, except that fell on its face because you weren't aware you're also a criminal based on the same technicality.

When that didn't work, your new approach is to pose what is fundamentally an economic issue as "border security". Similar to how segregation/civil-right was posed as "state rights".

This sort of trite re-branding only works well to convince simpletons of their self-righteous cause.
 
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