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My biggest gripe with immigration is mexican immigration. Most people from other origins come here, they assimilate into society properly (such as learning the language, learning the culture, etc...). They get a job, work, etc.. etc..

When it comes to Mexicans though... the majority of them do not attempt to integrate into society. They outright refuse. They will never learn the language (or try). They hold zero respect for the overall country - and the only thing they can be proud of is the Mexican flag they wave everywhere and their shitty music. I swear hearing that shit is the equivalency of drinking vomit to your ears. They show up to Walmart and demand that they have cashiers that speak their native language instead of raising a single finger to try to learn themselves. It's pathetic and sad.

I honestly don't have a big problem with immigration - but the issue is if you do not integrate with society it's not healthy - and they are likely to go back where they come from once our country puts them into a successful position. That's not what immigration is for. Immigration is meant to be better for our country... not our neighbors country.
 
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FrankRamiro

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Nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage. I have no problem with that. What I do not like are people wave foreign flags here, boast about their ILLEGAL status without any fear, and burn US flags (not in this story). You get my drift?

And you know why they do this?
because of the damn libertarians politicians like present administration and Hillary, don't let the authorities to do their job,the law is clear,it's a crime to enter any country illegal period.And do you know why, cause they want cheap labor and want to screw the American people,as if they already did not enough harm to American workers by outsourcing jogs that belonged to the American people to China
 

FrankRamiro

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My biggest gripe with immigration is mexican immigration. Most people from other origins come here, they assimilate into society properly (such as learning the language, learning the culture, etc...). They get a job, work, etc.. etc..

When it comes to Mexicans though... the majority of them do not attempt to integrate into society. They outright refuse. They will never learn the language (or try). They hold zero respect for the overall country - and the only thing they can be proud of is the Mexican flag they wave everywhere and their shitty music. I swear hearing that shit is the equivalency of drinking vomit to your ears. They show up to Walmart and demand that they have cashiers that speak their native language instead of raising a single finger to try to learn themselves. It's pathetic and sad.

I honestly don't have a big problem with immigration - but the issue is if you do not integrate with society it's not healthy - and they are likely to go back where they come from once our country puts them into a successful position. That's not what immigration is for. Immigration is meant to be better for our country... not our neighbors country.

And you forget one thing,most of them come here with the solo purpose of procreating so they can stay and grow Mexican Population that on the long run will pay off by gaining more power and control and take over important key places in the American society, like courts and politics,and also benefit from welfare,we are growing our deficit asking trillions of dollars to Chinese to pay for this illegal Mexican population,America is on the brink of collapse due to these F*** libertarians,and you know what they gain from this! there 's where they make their big money,the more crisis and the more misery the better for these libertarians.
 
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And you know why they do this?
because of the damn libertarians politicians like present administration and Hillary, don't let the authorities to do their job,the law is clear,it's a crime to enter any country illegal period.And do you know why, cause they want cheap labor and want to screw the American people,as if they already did not enough harm to American workers by outsourcing jogs that belonged to the American people to China

Burning the american flag is the ultimate in irony for illustrating the pillars of stupidity. It's what symbolizes your right to burn said flag... Yet you are burning it to condemn it hahahaha. Ohh the hypocrisy is hilarious. Try protesting in other countries by burning the flag, see where that gets you.
 

LegendKiller

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Again you seem very concerned about the motives of other people, but not so much about your own.

Is it really good for the country or trump (or whatever the rationalization is) to behave the way you do? For example, personally I think it's good for society that rational people speak out sometimes to demonstrate that this country isn't just mired in reality tv level of thinking.
So what was you alt?
 

ivwshane

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Has there been someone else who puts these people in their place like I do?

It's simply one of his many tricks to derail a discussion. Good luck getting him to address your points.

And there have been many who have put him in his place, it's why we all know his M.O.
 

brycejones

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And you know why they do this?
because of the damn libertarians politicians like present administration and Hillary, don't let the authorities to do their job,the law is clear,it's a crime to enter any country illegal period.And do you know why, cause they want cheap labor and want to screw the American people,as if they already did not enough harm to American workers by outsourcing jogs that belonged to the American people to China

And you forget one thing,most of them come here with the solo purpose of procreating so they can stay and grow Mexican Population that on the long run will pay off by gaining more power and control and take over important key places in the American society, like courts and politics,and also benefit from welfare,we are growing our deficit asking trillions of dollars to Chinese to pay for this illegal Mexican population,America is on the brink of collapse due to these F*** libertarians,and you know what they gain from this! there 's where they make their big money,the more crisis and the more misery the better for these libertarians.


Damn libertarians are evil I guess? Frank how many bottles of cough syrup are you drinking a day?
 

glenn1

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I wonder what you call legal immigrants who are against illegal immigration and feel those in country illegally should be deported and go through the legal route to come back into the country. Are they racist too??

Foolish if you're talking to a Democrat. You're a chump if you actually follow the rules and the time/expense that takes; you're far better off just breaking the laws and using the extra time to invent a sob story that will make the left take pity on you. That way they'll not only ignore your lawbreaking, they'll give you priority over the legal immigrant you talked about in your post.
 

openwheel

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My biggest gripe with immigration is mexican immigration. Most people from other origins come here, they assimilate into society properly (such as learning the language, learning the culture, etc...). They get a job, work, etc.. etc..

When it comes to Mexicans though... the majority of them do not attempt to integrate into society. They outright refuse. They will never learn the language (or try). They hold zero respect for the overall country - and the only thing they can be proud of is the Mexican flag they wave everywhere and their shitty music. I swear hearing that shit is the equivalency of drinking vomit to your ears. They show up to Walmart and demand that they have cashiers that speak their native language instead of raising a single finger to try to learn themselves. It's pathetic and sad.

I honestly don't have a big problem with immigration - but the issue is if you do not integrate with society it's not healthy - and they are likely to go back where they come from once our country puts them into a successful position. That's not what immigration is for. Immigration is meant to be better for our country... not our neighbors country.

What about the Irish Pub down the street? How about Little Italy? "Foreign" flags are everywhere, we are a big melting pot. This country flourished because we are a big melting pot, how soon people forget....

Illegal immigration is an "issue", but don't lump it together with plain prejudice. Otherwise you lose your argument automatically.
 
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What about the Irish Pub down the street? How about Little Italy? "Foreign" flags are everywhere, we are a big melting pot. This country flourished because we are a big melting pot, how soon people forget....

Illegal immigration is an "issue", but don't lump it together with plain prejudice. Otherwise you lose your argument automatically.

there are so many ethnic neighborhoods in Chicago that proudly display their country of origins flag, from Chinatown to Pilsen (Czech) to Little Italy, to Greektown to Avondale (Little Warsaw), to Devon Ave (Indian), to Andersonville (Swedish) to Uptown (Little Saigon)

So why aren't these getting lambasted for having their country's flag flying?
 

Londo_Jowo

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there are so many ethnic neighborhoods in Chicago that proudly display their country of origins flag, from Chinatown to Pilsen (Czech) to Little Italy, to Greektown to Avondale (Little Warsaw), to Devon Ave (Indian), to Andersonville (Swedish) to Uptown (Little Saigon)

So why aren't these getting lambasted for having their country's flag flying?

How many of these people flying their flags are illegal immigrants???
 

chucky2

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Why do pro-"immigration" US Citizens hate unemployed and/or less well off US Citizens...? :'(
 

rpanic

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there are so many ethnic neighborhoods in Chicago that proudly display their country of origins flag, from Chinatown to Pilsen (Czech) to Little Italy, to Greektown to Avondale (Little Warsaw), to Devon Ave (Indian), to Andersonville (Swedish) to Uptown (Little Saigon)

So why aren't these getting lambasted for having their country's flag flying?

The big difference is that those immigrants don’t believe that these lands are their birthright and need to be taken back which is what many of the illegals and anchor kids growing up here believe coming from Mexico. They take over areas in such huge numbers that there is no need for assimilation and just create the same environment they fled.
 

chucky2

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there are so many ethnic neighborhoods in Chicago that proudly display their country of origins flag, from Chinatown to Pilsen (Czech) to Little Italy, to Greektown to Avondale (Little Warsaw), to Devon Ave (Indian), to Andersonville (Swedish) to Uptown (Little Saigon)

So why aren't these getting lambasted for having their country's flag flying?

Because people from those countries aren't presently coming over to the US (which doesn't presently need) in the tens of millions, and many of them illegally? Just a guess...
 

bshole

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The big difference is that those immigrants don’t believe that these lands are their birthright and need to be taken back which is what many of the illegals and anchor kids growing up here believe coming from Mexico. They take over areas in such huge numbers that there is no need for assimilation and just create the same environment they fled.

What do you mean? Could you expand on this please?
 

rpanic

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What do you mean? Could you expand on this please?

A lot of Mexicans that I have had conversations with or that were talking while I was within their presence the last few decades talk openly about this being their land what else is there to say. Maybe because my office is a block from East LA JC and I grew up in a Hispanic area, it probably gets thrown in my face a lot more than most people. I would also say surprisingly in my experiences it’s not mostly from the uneducated Illegals, but from the first and second generation ones that have been brain washed into all the La Raza BS.

I know not all are like that most of my friends growing up were Hispanic but then again they didn’t even have an accent or speak Spanish. Most of my Hispanic friends don’t even like all of the illegals swamping the US and feel like it has giving them a bad name but their voice is never heard, it hurts them just as much having to move further and further out to find safe neighborhoods and decent schools.
 

openwheel

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No, but I bet the legal immigrants in those neighborhoods far exceed the illegals from those respective countries as they had to cross an ocean to get here.

You do know, that it is cheaper and easier for an illegal to cross via TSA check lines than a journey through the desert in Arizona.

Illegal immigration is a problem, but it is not a "Mexican" problem. Mexico just happens to be close by with a terrible economy with violent crime. If you lived in Mexico City, you'd probably do the same. We have illegals coming from China, Czech Republic, Kenya....all over the World. We need to stop the hatred towards Latin Americans and focus on solutions.
 
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Svnla

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You do know, that it is cheaper and easier for an illegal to cross via TSA check lines than a journey through the desert in Arizona.

Illegal immigration is a problem, but it is not a "Mexican" problem. Mexico just happens to be close by with a terrible economy with violent crime. If you lived in Mexico City, you'd probably do the same. We have illegals coming from China, Czech Republic, Kenya....all over the World. We need to stop the hatred towards Latin Americans and focus on solutions.

I will bite. While it is true that ILLEGALS are from everywhere but guess which group has the overwhelmingly MAJORITY? Take a while guess. Hint: not the Chinese, Czechs, Kenyans in your example.

Do you see them Chinese, Czechs, Kenyans wave their national flags and post signs of "Make America China/Czech/Kenya/<insert a nation name> again" as the Mexicans have been doing?

Do you see the point yet?
 

Zaap

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there are so many ethnic neighborhoods in Chicago that proudly display their country of origins flag, from Chinatown to Pilsen (Czech) to Little Italy, to Greektown to Avondale (Little Warsaw), to Devon Ave (Indian), to Andersonville (Swedish) to Uptown (Little Saigon)

So why aren't these getting lambasted for having their country's flag flying?

Ahh that BRAND NEW tactic of pretending illegal immigration is the same thing as legal immigration.

That's just SO ORIGINAL!!
 
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Ahh that BRAND NEW tactic of pretending illegal immigration is the same thing as legal immigration.

That's just SO ORIGINAL!!

If it came off as I was implying that, I apologize. I was not, I was pointing out that pride of one's heritage can be found throughout many neighborhoods in Chicago. That's all, nothing more.
 
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