Valedictorian (ILLEGAL alien) boasted about full tuition paid for and ILLEGAL status

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flexy

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How "easy" is it for an actual illegal to even GET a #SS, welfare, insurance, benefits etc...how the fuck would you get those things being illegal?

Also..cut those things, yes, there will always be those who'll happily employee Jose under the table for a few bucks..because...uhm... CAPITALISM is essentially that, profiting from cheap labor.

You still don't get (as this case nicely shows) it is NOT even so much about "illegals coming in", but those illegals who come and cost the society. (Many DO cost the society, no question, but not all)

(I could argue that not just the Valedictorian won't cost the society, but even Jose who works for $6/hr in a factory RATHER provides a benefit for the capitalist system, since someone profits through him, massively. From a capitalism perspective, a $6/hr illegal where you don't pay other benefits, healthcare etc. is PERFECT. Ching, ching in the 1%'s pocket, *thanks* to Jose)
 

Londo_Jowo

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sorry, but i have known a handful of illegals and every single one of them was hard working, some owned homes, they all paid taxes and not a single one milked the system or used tax payers money as you and others often suggest.

I know many legal immigrants who are also hard workers, own homes, pay their taxes and don't milk* the system. Many are spouses/step children of American citizens and others that had to wait 5 to 7 years to get their immigrant visas via the visa lottery. Spouses/step children visa wait times are 1.5 to 2 years.

* They had to prove they could support themselves as part of the immigrant visa process. If at any time should they require government assistance their immigrant visa would be nullified and they would be deported.
 

LegendKiller

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Look, there are going to be bad people coming as well. The notion the majority or all of them are horrible people is ridiculous.
Yeah, they are just a drain on the economy, lowering wages, making schools worse, raising medical bills, many are criminals...etc. so it's all good. In fact, we should just completely open up our borders and allow half of Latin America in here.
 

buckshot24

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How "easy" is it for an actual illegal to even GET a #SS, welfare, insurance, benefits etc...how the fuck would you get those things being illegal?
First you get some documents forged then you end up building on those documents by getting real ones.
 

buckshot24

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The best that any country can do today is try and manage/control the flow of people. There is no frickin' way you're going to stop that movement.
No kidding. Do you think we believe the wall is going to be 100% effective. Straw man much?
 
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Yeah, they are just a drain on the economy, lowering wages, making schools worse, raising medical bills, many are criminals...etc. so it's all good. In fact, we should just completely open up our borders and allow half of Latin America in here.

"Some, I assume, are good people"
 

LegendKiller

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"Some, I assume, are good people"
I don't give a fuck if some are, or even 99% are. If they are good people they can come in the way all good people come in, legally. Then we can weed out the leeches, those can't supoort themselves, criminals, less educated...etc. instead, you're perfectly happy letting ms13 walk across whenever they want.
 
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I don't give a fuck if some are, or even 99% are. If they are good people they can come in the way all good people come in, legally. Then we can weed out the leeches, those can't supoort themselves, criminals, less educated...etc. instead, you're perfectly happy letting ms13 walk across whenever they want.

Whoooooooooooooooooooooooosh
 

LegendKiller

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Whoooooooooooooooooooooooosh
I agree. This process goes completely over your head. Rational immigration completely goes over liberal heads.

Glad you guys don't lock your doors and post signs outside that everybody is welcome to your shit. Otherwise you'd be massive hypocrites. Whew.
 

Greenman

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After the young lady in question gets her degree, I assume she'll have to return to Mexico to find work. US employers have to fill out paperwork and provide documentation that new hires are legal residents. I assume she could use forged documents, but after going public, I would think that would lead to her incarceration for fraud.

I also find the nature of her "coming out" to be a bit confrontational, it appears she wants to rub our collective noses in her gaming the system.
 
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I agree. This process goes completely over your head. Rational immigration completely goes over liberal heads.

Glad you guys don't lock your doors and post signs outside that everybody is welcome to your shit. Otherwise you'd be massive hypocrites. Whew.

Yea, that's exactly what I was referring to, great job Det. Poirot
 

MajinCry

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I also find the nature of her "coming out" to be a bit confrontational, it appears she wants to rub our collective noses in her gaming the system.

That's a persecution complex. Matey, she said "oh and I'm undocumentated". That's all.

You're making a quaking mountain out of a molehill.
 

agent00f

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Can we secure our border, yes or no? I'm not asking you about criminals.

That's similar to asking if we can stop traffic law violations. Increasing enforcement can reduce violation, of course. However, in the case of immigration, the demand is driven by US employers who have a vested interest otherwise, and we're not about to start prosecuting white people when the point is to hate on the darkies.
 

Greenman

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That's a persecution complex. Matey, she said "oh and I'm undocumentated". That's all.

You're making a quaking mountain out of a molehill.

Along with a Mexican flag, details count.
I don't really care about the free collage ride, if the system is set up so that it's available to illegals then we accept it or change the system.
 

MajinCry

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A Mexican flag? Oh dear, someone's a patriot for their country of birth, but it's not our country birth so they hate America!

Lord almighty.
 
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