[Various] NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Review Thread

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Genx87

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So where are the 2.5Ghz non LN2 clocks that were promised by some members here :hmm:

It will be interesting to see what after market OEMs can do with this chip. I think seeing 2.0-2.1Ghz will not be unheard in special OC cards.
 

railven

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If you search the GCN launch review thread here in AT forums, you will find me complaining about the $549 price of the HD7970.

Then if Vega get's jacked up, I expect to see your pitchfork sharpened.
 

amenx

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Waiting for $599 AIB card reviews. Which should alter perceptions of the card a bit.
 

R0H1T

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Same place 40% faster Fury X than Titan X are.
Nice, but this release should put to rest the assumption that 16nm FF+, or even 14nm LPP, is some magical elixir that allows exorbitant clocks just cause its FinFet.
It will be interesting to see what after market OEMs can do with this chip. I think seeing 2.0-2.1Ghz will not be unheard in special OC cards.
Disagree, Pascal is already very close to it's real world limits. I'm assuming you meant ~2.1 GHz at stock, & not boost clocks.


 
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Grooveriding

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Nvidia really screwed up with jacking up the price of the reference card $100 over MSRP and calling it the founders edition. It was a mistake, the card has nothing going for it to make it deserve a premium and it's apparent. FE edition.. should have called it the fanboy edition. That or the early adopters tax edition. EAT 1080

All the initial reviews are being done on that price inflated reference card and it makes the card look much worse than it would in a review on a card at MSRP using a custom AIB design. Surprised to see this sort of marketing mistake from nvidia as they usually do their marketing well. Even review sites are calling them out on it, and reviewers usually take a light touch with nvidia.

Hardware canuck's review looks like an outlier with inflated performance. I wouldn't completely ignore it as the assumption should be the results were obtained in a manner according to how they uniquely reviewed the card, leaving it open to error. I would throw out whatever subjective opinions the reviewer attached to the review though. Right out the window with those.

http://www.computerbase.de/2016-05/geforce-gtx-1080-test/7/




I think part of the problem is you can expect some sites to stick right to the reviewers guide nvidia distributes. Which will be arranged to give a best possible case result in their favour. As always look at all the reviews. If you let yourself get enamored with the best case outlier, you'll be disappointed with what you actually get from the card.
 

AtenRa

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Then if Vega get's jacked up, I expect to see your pitchfork sharpened.

Jacked up from what ??? Fury X ???

Lets first see Polaris and what it will bring and at what price and then we can talk about Vega.
 

FatherMurphy

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I love the performance and efficiency of the 1080 but I think Nvidia screwed the pooch with this Founders' Edition nonsense and the $100 price difference. It unnecessarily complicates the launch and, more importantly, the launch analysis.

"Is this card good? Absolutely, but is it good at $700? Well, maybe not, but it's really $600. But, wait, I can't buy a $600 card right now, and I don't know whether custom cards will come in at $600, $650, $700, or somewhere in between? Oh, and will the custom cards cool better?"

The GPU nerd in me will read all these reviews today (and already has, and my boss is not going to be happy with my billable hours today). The performance is awesome because it is indisputably the best performing GPU ever.

The consumer in me has no interest in a reference blower card at $700. The consumer in me is going to pretend that today's launch never happened. When custom cards from EVGA, Asus, MSI, etc. come available and are reviewed, and the base price is $600, the consumer in me will start paying attention.
 
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Genx87

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Nice, but this release should put to rest the assumption that 16nm FF+, or even 14nm LPP, is some magical elixir that allows exorbitant clocks just cause its FinFet.Disagree, Pascal is already very close to it's real world limits.



We will have to agree to disagree. Nothing you show here says a 2.0-2.1Ghz part cant be put out by a 3rd party.
 

krumme

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Look at eg AT Ashes test. The cards tanks in dx12, and we are not even at the clean sheet dx12 engines yet.
The basic problem this card have is its fermi like old arch wrapped in fine proces. Its going to get old faster than kepler.
 

swilli89

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I think most people are too afraid to admit that they do not agree with the 1080's price. Behind closed doors I think if you got all the nVidia faithful, they would all moan a little bit about the price.

I mean we all know nvidia would be very healthy and profitable at $400-500 yet they are charging 30% more. People think that if they admit it sucks to have to pay $700 to get a release 1080 that they are giving the "AMD Camp" a reason to celebrate.

Just be honest and admit it sucks nVidia prices the way it does. Don't justify, don't say well the performance makes it ok, don't compare it to 2015 flagship pricing, just be humble yourselves and admit this sucks.
 

ViviTheMage

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I love the performance and efficiency of the 1080 but I think Nvidia screwed the pooch with this Founders' Edition nonsense and the $100 price difference. It unnecessarily complicates the launch and, more importantly, the launch analysis.

"Is this card good? Absolutely, but is it good at $700? Well, maybe not, but it's really $600. But, wait, I can't buy a $600 card right now, and I don't know whether custom cards will come in at $600, $650, $700, or somewhere in between? Oh, and will the custom cards cool better?"

The GPU nerd in me will read all these reviews today (and already has, and my boss is not going to be happy with my billable hours today). The performance is awesome because it is indisputably the best performing GPU ever.

The consumer in me has no interest in a reference blower card at $700. The consumer in me is going to pretend that today's launch never happened. When custom cards from EVGA, Asus, MSI, etc. come available and are reviewed, and the base price is $600, the consumer in me will start paying attention.

When will that be? I was hoping to get one soon, haha.
 

AnandThenMan

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I love the performance and efficiency of the 1080 but I think Nvidia screwed the pooch with this Founders' Edition nonsense and the $100 price difference. It unnecessarily complicates the launch and, more importantly, the launch analysis.
Nvidia is shamelessly milking the early adopters and I don't really blame them, they get away with it. I don't think this will hurt their image or future sales at all they've done the same thing with Titan and Titan-X for example.
 

Genx87

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Look at eg AT Ashes test. The cards tanks in dx12, and we are not even at the clean sheet dx12 engines yet.
The basic problem this card have is its fermi like old arch wrapped in fine proces. Its going to get old faster than kepler.

Eh what? This card is about 35% faster than the 980Ti in that game. If what you said is true. It should perform about the same or worse. btw I think this benchmark you picked may be one of the best jumps in performance for the 1080 over the 980Ti
 
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Genx87

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I think most people are too afraid to admit that they do not agree with the 1080's price. Behind closed doors I think if you got all the nVidia faithful, they would all moan a little bit about the price.

I mean we all know nvidia would be very healthy and profitable at $400-500 yet they are charging 30% more. People think that if they admit it sucks to have to pay $700 to get a release 1080 that they are giving the "AMD Camp" a reason to celebrate.

Just be honest and admit it sucks nVidia prices the way it does. Don't justify, don't say well the performance makes it ok, don't compare it to 2015 flagship pricing, just be humble yourselves and admit this sucks.

I said the FE is meh. But come on, a new card that is 20-30% faster and is 50 bucks less is a bad thing?
 

thesmokingman

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Eh what? This card is about 35-40% faster than the 980Ti in that game. If what you said is true. It should perform about the same or worse. btw I think this benchmark you picked may be one of the best jumps in performance for the 1080 over the 980Ti


Yea, huh.. I went back and double checked the guru AOTS test and yeap it's got a sizable lead.
 

railven

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Nice, but this release should put to rest the assumption that 16nm FF+, or even 14nm LPP, is some magical elixir that allows exorbitant clocks just cause its FinFet.

Or perhaps the ref cooler isn't as god-like as NV touted it to be.
 

lilltesaito

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Look at eg AT Ashes test. The cards tanks in dx12, and we are not even at the clean sheet dx12 engines yet.
The basic problem this card have is its fermi like old arch wrapped in fine proces. Its going to get old faster than kepler.

It could be that the game needs an update for that card, just have to wait and see.

I will say that this card is just way to overpriced for what it is. I really hope this backfires on Nvidia, the prices are getting crazy high. Would not be shocked to see the 1080ti at $1,000 when it comes out.
 

thesmokingman

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I said the FE is meh. But come on, a new card that is 20-30% faster and is 50 bucks less is a bad thing?


It's not 50 less, its a 1080 equivalent meaning it is encroaching on the next model up's price. There will be two higher models, 980ti and Titan replacement.
 

Azix

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dx12 is still slower on nvidia hardware than dx11. Faster at 1080p, slower at higher resolutions. But async might make it slightly faster (not based on below video, save a graph somewhere)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqK4xGimR7A

That tomb raider dx12 thing should just not be taken seriously as a GPU test. They are at the state hitman devs said they were before optimizing, i.e. losing significant performance.
 
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Genx87

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It's not 50 less, its a 1080 equivalent meaning it is encroaching on the next model up's price. There will be two higher models, 980ti and Titan replacement.

This is silly. Where can I buy this 1080Ti? What is its price?

Anyways you understand the 980 released at 549 in 2014 right? And the 780 at 649 in 2013?
 
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railven

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You're not peeved in the least with the upward trend in pricing?

Honestly? No. There are other things in my life that have crept up in price that I buy much more often than a GPU.

This is a luxury item I don't need to survive. I can think of multiple methods to make the difference of $50 from just daily purchases.

But I'm not everyone, and I never act I am.
 

krumme

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Eh what? This card is about 35% faster than the 980Ti in that game. If what you said is true. It should perform about the same or worse. btw I think this benchmark you picked may be one of the best jumps in performance for the 1080 over the 980Ti
So what 980ti is damn slow. 1080 is only 10% faster than fury x !
What a lame performance.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10326/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-preview/2
Its a no go imo for a new highend card for the future games. Buying 10% now and the clean sheet dx12 engines is not even here yet. Even fury x will end up faster in half a year in dx12. Old arch.


flaming/baiting is not allowed here.
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Genx87

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So what 980ti is damn slow here. Its only 10% faster than fury x.
What a lame performance.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10326/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-preview/2
Its a no go imo fo4 a new highend card for the future games. Buying 10% now and the clean sheet dx12 engines is not even here yet. Even fury x will end up faster in half a year in dx12. Old arch.

lol you are the one who used this benchmark as proof the 1080 is going to have problems in DX12 because it has an arch that goes back to Fermi. The thing clearly fixed what DX12 issues the 980Ti had. It is one of the better showings for the 1080 vs 980Ti.
 
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