[Various] NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Review Thread

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Actaeon

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Very nice reviews so far, but I'm not sure what to think about the 1080 yet.

Objectively, single GPU performance is very impressive and better than anything that came before it. For a mid-sized die chip it very very fast and bodes very well for the big chips to come. If you need a new high end GPU, this is the one to get until we see Big Pascal or Vega next year.

Subjectively, even though it is technically a 980 replacement, it is priced similarly or more expensive than the 980 Ti was, so I am having a hard time deciding what to compare it against. Basically mid-range chip at high-range price.

The Performance gains over the 980 is very impressive, but it did take 2 years to get here (Fall 2014 vs Summer 2016) so it shouldn't be too surprising to see these gains. It is disappointing they raised the price yet again for mid range chips.

Against the 980 Ti, it does seem a bit disappointing. Yes the 1080 is faster, but it was released a year later, had a die shrink, boosted with mega clock speeds, cutting edge new GDDR5X, but it doesn't seem to raise the bar in performance any while costing as much or more than the 980 Ti did.

As I read what I wrote, I really think it comes down to pricing. At $500 this would be a very impressive step forward. But as it sits, it delivers approximately the same performance to dollar ratio we've been sitting on since the 980 Ti was released last year, so I am having a hard time getting excited about it.
 

Actaeon

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Too bad it is just one game at one resolution, but here is a nice 1080 OC vs 980 Ti OC comparison. Manual OCs, so not just what they boost to out of the box.

154.9/139.3 = 10% improvement



 

IllogicalGlory

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It's a fairly good card, but as the TPU scores reflect, this is no 980. Lesser overclocking potential, runs hotter, more expensive.

We'll have to wait for aftermarket coolers to see its full potential, but generally poor coolers don't seriously affect how much you can adjust the knobs, just the clocks you see during operation.
 

R0H1T

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Very nice reviews so far, but I'm not sure what to think about the 1080 yet.

Objectively, single GPU performance is very impressive and better than anything that came before it. For a mid-sized die chip it very very fast and bodes very well for the big chips to come. If you need a new high end GPU, this is the one to get until we see Big Pascal or Vega next year.

Subjectively, even though it is technically a 980 replacement, it is priced similarly or more expensive than the 980 Ti was, so I am having a hard time deciding what to compare it against. Basically mid-range chip at high-range price.

The Performance gains over the 980 is very impressive, but it did take 2 years to get here (Fall 2014 vs Summer 2016) so it shouldn't be too surprising to see these gains. It is disappointing they raised the price yet again for mid range chips.

Against the 980 Ti, it does seem a bit disappointing. Yes the 1080 is faster, but it was released a year later, had a die shrink, boosted with mega clock speeds, cutting edge new GDDR5X, but it doesn't seem to raise the bar in performance any while costing as much or more than the 980 Ti did.

As I read what I wrote, I really think it comes down to pricing. At $500 this would be a very impressive step forward. But as it sits, it delivers approximately the same performance to dollar ratio we've been sitting on since the 980 Ti was released last year, so I am having a hard time getting excited about it.
This just reaffirms the suspicions that Pascal is a tweaked Maxwell on steroids, not that it matters but seems not to be way off the mark.

Most, if not all, the gains are due to clock speeds however seeing how AMD handed them their arse in compute heavy DX12 titles, Nvidia seems to have made Async better (enabled?) in Pascal, possibly though drivers. Going forward compute will play a big role in DX12 & even desktop apps, Pascal just does what was needed, albeit much later than AMD.
 

Eymar

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And then again when small Volta comes along. That's the whole idea. $700 twice per generation is better than only once like it used to be (for Nvidia).

Good point, but 980 wasn't $700. It was a smart play for price conscious 780/TI owners to skip 980 and wait for TI version. Come to think of it I wonder how much a 1080 TI would be if 1080 price holds when TI comes around. $749 would be the low end MSRP I think.
 

Glo.

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GTX 980 Ti Waterforce in that review after OC was 1492 MHz on core.
GTX 1080 was at 2060 MHz.

It is 20% higher compute power for 10% increase in performance, after OC.

Looks like IPC has been lowered with mid-range Pascal.
 

redzo

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Efficiency alone blew me over. I wouldn't want to be in AMD's shoes right now. Kudos to nvidia.
 

Timmah!

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It would be hilarious if the Founders Edition turned out to be base price when the custom cards come in. nvidia basically would have found a way to fake MSRP while charging more. Or there could be some really barebones 1080 cards for that lower msrp. Obviously this FE is not a great card like they said it was. Its a basic reference card that is noisy and throttles.

Why should the partners price less than it? If it REALLY does require that price to be profitable, why would they at all? If FE was limited edition, that would make much more sense.

As if that was not going to happen. There may be some cheaper versions available (like the one from Zotac with that plastic shroud and blower), but all the relevant custom cards (with better cooling and factory OCed) are going to cost minimally as much as FE does.
 

CakeMonster

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Those cards would in the past have had a hefty price premium over day 1 reference cards so we can't conclude that "real" MSRP is $700 quite yet.
 

crisium

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GTX 980 Ti Waterforce in that review after OC was 1492 MHz on core.
GTX 1080 was at 2060 MHz.

It is 20% higher compute power for 10% increase in performance, after OC.

Looks like IPC has been lowered with mid-range Pascal.

Max OC the 980 Ti still leads in ROP throughput and a slight amount of memory bandwidth. You need apples-to-apples on ROPs and memory bandwidth to get a proper IPC comparison. 1070 vs 980 will be better for IPC comparisons 1920/64/256 SPs/ROPs/bandwidth vs 2048/64/224 may be the closest we get.
 

mohit9206

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Yes i agree, if Nvdia had priced this card at $499, AMD would have had a heart attack lol.
It would have been a great value at $499 while still making decent profit per card sold and putting massive pressure on AMD.
Which means the 1070 would have been $299. Doesn't this sound great?
But unfortunately that is not the reality we live in.
 

SteveGrabowski

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It's truly a mid range card with a price that's beyond high end. To each their own. I'll be waiting for the real high end cards early next year.

I bet the GP100 Titan is going to be a $1200 card. $100 for the Founders Edition tax (since Nvidia allows no aftermarket Titans) and then another $100 for HBM2.
 
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I bet the GP100 Titan is going to be a $1200 card. $100 for the Founders Edition tax (since Nvidia allows no aftermarket Titans) and then another $100 for HBM2.

I don't think we will ever see GP100 come to consumers. It would need to clock much higher than it does now to be competitive w/ aftermarket GTX 1080s.
 

96Firebird

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Yes i agree, if Nvdia had priced this card at $499, AMD would have had a heart attack lol.
It would have been a great value at $499 while still making decent profit per card sold and putting massive pressure on AMD.
Which means the 1070 would have been $299. Doesn't this sound great?
But unfortunately that is not the reality we live in.

They've got to keep from killing AMD outright, its like a cat-and-mouse game. The cat has already caught the mouse, and is just toying with it for fun.
 

CakeMonster

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Who cares about the Titan pricing, the "Ti" pricing is the interesting part. If I "wait it out" for the 1080Ti and I find that it has a MSRP $150 above 1080, I would have wasted my time. The big chips tend to be more expensive, and so far I've not been able to justify upgrading on that cycle.
 

Stuka87

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Yes i agree, if Nvdia had priced this card at $499, AMD would have had a heart attack lol.
It would have been a great value at $499 while still making decent profit per card sold and putting massive pressure on AMD.
Which means the 1070 would have been $299. Doesn't this sound great?
But unfortunately that is not the reality we live in.

I actually doubt they would make a profit at $499 for the 1080. With see how much the 1070 is cut down by, it most likely means full chip yields are not great. The 1070 being cut by as much as it has suggest that to get really good yields, they needed to cut the card down by quite a bit. Which is why the 1070 can cost so much less than the 1080 and still be profitable.
 

Timmah!

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Does anyone know, if any of the available reviews benchmarked the card for GPGPU performance? Preferebly something CUDA based, if not, LuxMark at least... all the reviews i read so far benched only games. Annoying.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Who cares about the Titan pricing, the "Ti" pricing is the interesting part. If I "wait it out" for the 1080Ti and I find that it has a MSRP $150 above 1080, I would have wasted my time. The big chips tend to be more expensive, and so far I've not been able to justify upgrading on that cycle.

I mentioned the Titan because it's the only GP100 chip that would have any chance to be on the market in early 2017 considering the P100 cards don't go on sale until January and Nvidia always waits a few months to release 80 Ti cards after milking early adopters on Titans.
 

TakeNoPrisoners

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This is pretty underwhelming from the perspective of an OCed 980Ti owner.

OCed GTX 1080 is 12% faster than OCed 980Ti? I expected way better, especially since this is a die shrink.

Looks like i'm keeping my 980 Ti for awhile. Lets hope Nvidia doesn't artificially limit the 900 series cards in new games via drivers like they did for the 700 series.
 

iiiankiii

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This is pretty underwhelming from the perspective of an OCed 980Ti owner.

OCed GTX 1080 is 12% faster than OCed 980Ti? I expected way better, especially since this is a die shrink.

Looks like i'm keeping my 980 Ti for awhile. Lets hope Nvidia doesn't artificially limit the 900 series cards in new games via drivers like they did for the 700 series.

From what I'm seeing, I really think 2100mhz is the general limit of these cards. If that's the case, it's actually a relatively poor overclocker when compared to Maxwell. It looks like Nvidia pushed the card near its upward limits to achieve that 30% bump over the GTX980TI.
 

TakeNoPrisoners

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From what I'm seeing, I really think 2100mhz is the general limit of these cards. If that's the case, it's actually a relatively poor overclocker when compared to Maxwell. It looks like Nvidia pushed the card near its upward limits to achieve that 30% bump over the GTX980TI.

Guess custom cards won't really help then. I gotta wait for the 1080 Ti, or whatever AMD decides to release.
 
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