Seems odd to me too, but it really isn't worth getting annoyed about! So long as it makes them happy
Of course it is. I hate seeing NV rewarded by 980 Ti owners for producing a card that's more expensive and not anything close to a worthy successor (and it doesn't need to be as an 04 card). $700 for 10 FPS? Why would anyone do that? Just turn down settings, pay nothing and notice nothing. It's the same effect (nothing), but for free.
And maybe when the time comes for a 980 Ti successor to be released, and railven along with enough other people have decided that 04 cards aren't worth $700, you'll get something more for your money, and so will the rest of us.
Spend the $700 on a nice 1440p G-Sync display, or an Ultrawide display, put it toward an OLED TV, or an Oculus/Vive or another 980 Ti or 12 AAA games. Way more value, you'll notice something rather than nothing, and apart from that, they're just great toys (or at least, they have a chance of being). The 1080 isn't. It overclocks 10%, has GDDR5 and looks like a 980. Building a whole new $700 PC would probably provide more enjoyment, even if it's not practical.
railven doesn't want the 1080, nor do any other 980 Ti owners, they want a finfet card that destroys the 980 Ti. The 1080 is not that, and once they get the 1080, they aren't going to come to any other conclusion. It's going to be a disappointment. Why not just wait and get a satisfying upgrade instead? When the 1080 Ti comes around, it'll be a disappointing 20-30% upgrade. You'll never get that experience of popping in a new truly powerful piece of hardware again. I remember when I replaced my 6670 with a that was great I got to play at 60 FPS for the first time ever. I remember buying a 144Hz monitor and playing a game at 100 FPS. That was amazing too. What I don't remember is replacing my two 670s with a 980, or replacing my 144Hz monitor with a 1440p 60Hz one. When I get a GP100 or a Vega, I'll remember that and I'll be happy (or maybe I won't because I barely ever play new games).
NV can of course price whatever product they want at whatever price they want, but I'd like to see people stop buying cards just have the latest numbers in their sig. It isn't worth it.
Yup I don't get why people act like videocards are so expensive sometimes. Cut out a couple of your game purchases. I've seen people with hundreds of games that they haven't played and a low end gpu. That's far worse to me than a person buying high-end gpus every year. At least you use your gpu whenever you game. You don't use your whole unplayed steam library
You assume people all consider what is a value is the same for everyone.
I have a view of value and I'm arguing my case.You assume people all consider what is a value is the same for everyone.
This ^^^ Also the GTX 1080 will heat soak and you will loose your boost clock.I agree the small performance bumps are not exciting. I like huge increases.
After the past few years of perf/watt debates, some of us might be a bit cranky on the different values argument. Hey, $100 ain't much, a few non played steam games! Sure but an extra 50-100 watts more power usage is just horrible and bad, and wrong wrong wrong. Think of the earth! Think of your power bill! Space heater pc's liek omg!
Well, and what value you assign $700 to. That's hugely different for different sections of the population. Its irrelevant pocket change for some and massive for others.
I have a view of value and I'm arguing my case.
So are aftermarket coolers coming the 27th, or JUST the founder edition version? If i got to wait a week for EVGA i can do that. I just don't want to wait a week, and both versions be sold out if i can get one now. hehe
Not if you have a 144Hz refresh rate with 1440p. You will have a hard time at a minimum of 60FPS.Is a GTX 1080 overkill for 1440P monitors? Should I buy a GTX 1080 or GTX 1070 for 1440P?
Of course it is. I hate seeing NV rewarded by 980 Ti owners for producing a card that's more expensive and not anything close to a worthy successor (and it doesn't need to be as an 04 card). $700 for 10 FPS? Why would anyone do that? Just turn down settings, pay nothing and notice nothing. It's the same effect (nothing), but for free.
And maybe when the time comes for a 980 Ti successor to be released, and railven along with enough other people have decided that 04 cards aren't worth $700, you'll get something more for your money, and so will the rest of us.
Spend the $700 on a nice 1440p G-Sync display, or an Ultrawide display, put it toward an OLED TV, or an Oculus/Vive or another 980 Ti or 12 AAA games. Way more value, you'll notice something rather than nothing, and apart from that, they're just great toys (or at least, they have a chance of being). The 1080 isn't. It overclocks 10%, has GDDR5 and looks like a 980. Building a whole new $700 PC would probably provide more enjoyment, even if it's not practical.
railven doesn't want the 1080, nor do any other 980 Ti owners, they want a finfet card that destroys the 980 Ti. The 1080 is not that, and once they get the 1080, they aren't going to come to any other conclusion. It's going to be a disappointment. Why not just wait and get a satisfying upgrade instead? When the 1080 Ti comes around, it'll be a disappointing 20-30% upgrade. You'll never get that experience of popping in a new truly powerful piece of hardware again. I remember when I replaced my 6670 with a that was great I got to play at 60 FPS for the first time ever. I remember buying a 144Hz monitor and playing a game at 100 FPS. That was amazing too. What I don't remember is replacing my two 670s with a 980, or replacing my 144Hz monitor with a 1440p 60Hz one. When I get a GP100 or a Vega, I'll remember that and I'll be happy (or maybe I won't because I barely ever play new games).
NV can of course price whatever product they want at whatever price they want, but I'd like to see people stop buying cards just have the latest numbers in their sig. It isn't worth it.
I'm sorry but I cannot go through 20+ pages so I would like a recap. Has there been any pictures or news of the aftermarket coolers for the 1080?
EDIT: found them... http://wccftech.com/gigabyte-evga-geforce-gtx-1080-custom-models/
Of course it is. I hate seeing NV rewarded by 980 Ti owners for producing a card that's more expensive and not anything close to a worthy successor (and it doesn't need to be as an 04 card). $700 for 10 FPS? Why would anyone do that? Just turn down settings, pay nothing and notice nothing. It's the same effect (nothing), but for free.
And maybe when the time comes for a 980 Ti successor to be released, and railven along with enough other people have decided that 04 cards aren't worth $700, you'll get something more for your money, and so will the rest of us.
Spend the $700 on a nice 1440p G-Sync display, or an Ultrawide display, put it toward an OLED TV, or an Oculus/Vive or another 980 Ti or 12 AAA games. Way more value, you'll notice something rather than nothing, and apart from that, they're just great toys (or at least, they have a chance of being). The 1080 isn't. It overclocks 10%, has GDDR5 and looks like a 980. Building a whole new $700 PC would probably provide more enjoyment, even if it's not practical.
railven doesn't want the 1080, nor do any other 980 Ti owners, they want a finfet card that destroys the 980 Ti. The 1080 is not that, and once they get the 1080, they aren't going to come to any other conclusion. It's going to be a disappointment. Why not just wait and get a satisfying upgrade instead? When the 1080 Ti comes around, it'll be a disappointing 20-30% upgrade. You'll never get that experience of popping in a new truly powerful piece of hardware again. I remember when I replaced my 6670 with a that was great I got to play at 60 FPS for the first time ever. I remember buying a 144Hz monitor and playing a game at 100 FPS. That was amazing too. What I don't remember is replacing my two 670s with a 980, or replacing my 144Hz monitor with a 1440p 60Hz one. When I get a GP100 or a Vega, I'll remember that and I'll be happy (or maybe I won't because I barely ever play new games).
NV can of course price whatever product they want at whatever price they want, but I'd like to see people stop buying cards just have the latest numbers in their sig. It isn't worth it.
I'm sorry but I cannot go through 20+ pages so I would like a recap. Has there been any pictures or news of the aftermarket coolers for the 1080?
EDIT: found them... http://wccftech.com/gigabyte-evga-geforce-gtx-1080-custom-models/
EVGA SC and FTW (with dual 8-pin power): http://videocardz.com/60333/evga-geforce-gtx-1080-acx-3-0-superclocked-and-ftw-pictured
lots of EVGA SC pics (looks like an NVIDIA reference PCB with an ACX 3.0 cooler): http://hothardware.com/news/evga-ge...ed-avx-30-edition-and-gtx-1080-sli-sneak-peek
Asus Strix: http://videocardz.com/60340/asus-rog-strix-geforce-gtx-1080-pictured
Zotac AMP! cards (apparently both with dual 8-pin power): http://videocardz.com/60325/zotac-geforce-gtx-1080-amp-and-amp-extreme-pictured
Seems like GTX 1080's are hard to come by? No stock on NEWEGG and EVGA's website is down as well