[Various] NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Review Thread

[ViviTheMage]

I was able to snag an FE off nvidia's website for 750 after tax...will be for a friends build. I would rather wait for the other coolers and $599 with no tax.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Good luck

Thanks, can't wait for the ridiculous amount of gaming performance that these 1080s will deliver me.

 

[Headfoot]

Personally still waiting for Polaris reviews, but one of the custom 1080s may be in my future if Polaris isn't good (e.g. after projecting figures to Vega we find that lacking). Sounds like a month of waiting will let inventory stabilize some anyways from the latest posts here

 

[railven]

Yeah...waiting for these to be released. Grabbed a FE today but re-sold for ~$450 in profits. Planning to use a 970 or 390 to get me by until some better 1080s are available.

Was that the first offer? I too sold mine, but I didn't get as much as you

Bought two Founders Edition cards from GeForce.com this morning.

I was going to go Founder's + EVGA Hybrid kit since it works and after looking up their hybrid versions used a ref PCB I just assumed their 1080 Hybrid would too. Now I'm seeing it won't, I can't wait for that card to release.

 

[CakeMonster]

I need to see reviews of these 3rd party cards. Details about power delivery, factory OC, ability to stay at clock speeds during load, and noise numbers. Specs on a manufacturer's site means very little.

It's going to be a headache to decide....

 

[CakeMonster]

I haven't found a single card yet with factory memory OC. What gives?

 

[wingman04]

Maybe the memory is faster than the card could ever utilize with any overclock of the GPU.

 

[ShintaiDK]

The Zotac 1080 PGF? showed 11.3Ghz on the memory.

 

[exar333]

Was that the first offer? I too sold mine, but I didn't get as much as you



I was going to go Founder's + EVGA Hybrid kit since it works and after looking up their hybrid versions used a ref PCB I just assumed their 1080 Hybrid would too. Now I'm seeing it won't, I can't wait for that card to release.

Yeah, that's after Amazon fees too. Threw it up at 10est and sold in 30 minutes. Not bad...

 

[MrK6]

Rather underwhelming. Reviews show an overclocked 1080 ~20% faster than an overclocked 980 Ti. Not enough to justify an upgrade which makes buying a 980 Ti on launch this time last year a great deal, especially considering the price hike of the 1080. I'll be interested to see what the 1080 Ti offers.

 

[wingman04]

Rather underwhelming. Reviews show an overclocked 1080 ~20% faster than an overclocked 980 Ti. Not enough to justify an upgrade which makes buying a 980 Ti on launch this time last year a great deal, especially considering the price hike of the 1080. I'll be interested to see what the 1080 Ti offers.

Where did you see the reviews, can you provide a links thanks?

 

[Majcric]

Where did you see the reviews, can you provide a links thanks?

Here's one review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO_0SPvy_4o

 

[Piroko]

PCGH had a chat with Roman der8auer Hartung (apparently famous german LN2 overclocker) and he couldn't get his 1080 above ~2400 MHz on LN2 because there is no known way to push voltage above 1.25V so far.

Source in german: PCGH

edit: apparently that holds true even with a 16+2+1 Phase board that he already has, german source: PCGH forum


Also, this is the highest single card Firemark Extreme score of a 1080 as of now: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/8599669
Should be beatable

 

[ShintaiDK]

You can get a higher voltage

https://xdevs.com/guide/pascal_oc/

 

[escrow4]

Founders Edition 1080 is $1299 AUD local here, 980Ti $1100 down to around $900. I'll pass this time Nvidia. Lets see how marked up the 1070 is.

 

[Piroko]

You can get a higher voltage

https://xdevs.com/guide/pascal_oc/

I think it's rather safe to assume that der8auer knows that and has tried all of this.
In fact, the link I posted even mentions that he has gone to the extend to bridge that new voltage controller chip entirely but the card got unstable as soon as he increased Voltage beyond 1.25V. A special OC-BIOS-Version directly from Nvidia didn't help either.

 

[ZGR]

You can get a higher voltage

https://xdevs.com/guide/pascal_oc/

Fun read! Thank you

I think it's rather safe to assume that der8auer knows that and has tried all of this.
In fact, the link I posted even mentions that he has gone to the extend to bridge that new voltage controller chip entirely but the card got unstable as soon as he increased Voltage beyond 1.25V.

Yeah, it would be weird for him NOT to try that. Can't wait to see how high these chips can get!

 

[wingman04]

Here's one review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO_0SPvy_4o

Thanks for the link it was vary interesting.

 

[RussianSensation]

Rather underwhelming. Reviews show an overclocked 1080 ~20% faster than an overclocked 980 Ti. Not enough to justify an upgrade which makes buying a 980 Ti on launch this time last year a great deal, especially considering the price hike of the 1080. I'll be interested to see what the 1080 Ti offers.

That's about right. If you enjoyed 980Ti for a year, this 20% upgrade is not worth it unless one perfectly timed the resale of the 980Ti last month.

Here is a reference 980Ti ~ 1420ish Mhz against a 2025mhz 1080 reference. With a 1500-1550mhz 980Ti, that lead will drop to below 20% at 4K. I will be more fair to compare AIB 1080s vs. AIB 980Tis though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdN9DxR-JVQ

The more interesting card for the majority of PC gamers looking to upgrade from GTX970/R9 390/290X and below is the 1070. Seems that 1080 is severely memory bandwidth (1080's bandwidth is only 25% higher) and/or ROP bottlenecked (both have 64 ROPs) -- hence it cannot take advantage of its 37% higher shader and texture throughput against the 1070. As a result, on average it seems 1080 will beat 1070 by only 20-25%, not 35-37%. This is why those who were comparing 1070 vs. 1080 using Tflops numbers were way off the mark as GPUs have bottlenecks that Tflops numbers do not show.

This review shows that 1070/980Ti OC are more than fast enough for 1440p, while no single-chip card exists that's fast enough to max out 4K yet (Big Pascal should do it).

After the review dust settles and people actually look at FPS not just % Performance Charts, they will realize 1080 is a card that sits in no-mans land right now: Not a great upgrade over the 980Ti (far worse than 680/7970 OC were over 580/6970), not fast enough for 4K, not fast enough for 1440p 144Hz and pointless levels of performance above 1070 level cards for 1440p 60Hz for a large price premium. AIB 1070 for 1440p 60Hz and AIB 1070 SLI for 4K will be the superior setups, while 980Ti owners will get their rightful upgrade in 2017 with cards 50-60% faster.

 

[IEC]

You can get a higher voltage

https://xdevs.com/guide/pascal_oc/

der8auer was using a custom PCB and a external 16+2+1 phase power delivery board. He's simply hitting the chip's physical limits at 2400 MHz, even with extreme power delivery and LN2 cooling far beyond enthusiast level and straight into suicide benchmarking territory.

http://extreme.pcgameshardware.de/n...locking-szene-eher-negativ-4.html#post8241019

His opinion is LN2 doesn't give much additional OC.

Es kommt immer auf die GPU an. Je nach GPU landest du eben bei ~2000-2200 MHz unter Luft/Wasser, aber mit LN2 geht einfach nicht viel mehr.

 

[x3sphere]

That's about right. If you enjoyed 980Ti for a year, this 20% upgrade is not worth it unless one perfectly timed the resale of the 980Ti last month.

Here is a reference 980Ti ~ 1420ish Mhz against a 2025mhz 1080 reference. With a 1500-1550mhz 980Ti, that lead will drop to below 20% at 4K. I will be more fair to compare AIB 1080s vs. AIB 980Tis though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdN9DxR-JVQ

The more interesting card for the majority of PC gamers looking to upgrade from GTX970/R9 390/290X and below is the 1070. Seems that 1080 is severely memory bandwidth (1080's bandwidth is only 25% higher) and/or ROP bottlenecked (both have 64 ROPs) -- hence it cannot take advantage of its 37% higher shader and texture throughput against the 1070. As a result, on average it seems 1080 will beat 1070 by only 20-25%, not 35-37%. This is why those who were comparing 1070 vs. 1080 using Tflops numbers were way off the mark as GPUs have bottlenecks that Tflops numbers do not show.

This review shows that 1070/980Ti OC are more than fast enough for 1440p, while no single-chip card exists that's fast enough to max out 4K yet (Big Pascal should do it).

After the review dust settles and people actually look at FPS not just % Performance Charts, they will realize 1080 is a card that sits in no-mans land right now: Not a great upgrade over the 980Ti (far worse than 680/7970 OC were over 580/6970), not fast enough for 4K, not fast enough for 1440p 144Hz and pointless levels of performance above 1070 level cards for 1440p 60Hz for a large price premium. AIB 1070 for 1440p 60Hz and AIB 1070 SLI for 4K will be the superior setups, while 980Ti owners will get their rightful upgrade in 2017 with cards 50-60% faster.

I agree. The 1080 continues the trend of the x80 card being a terrible value. The way I see it, 1070 is the only card that matters here. It brings the 980 Ti/Titan X performance tier at a much lower price point, while the 1080 just moves the needle a bit but doesn't bring enough additional performance to the table to drive 4K@60Hz. Moving from 30->37 FPS doesn't really get me excited...

In retrospect, the 980 Ti was a bigger deal compared to 980 because it actually made 4K somewhat playable, many games barely hold 30 FPS at 4K on the 980.

Additionally, with the rumors that Vega might ship later this year 1080 may not end up holding onto its performance crown as long as other cards have. I would not be surprised if the 1080 ends up having very poor longevity (relative to its price) for a flagship.

 

[sxr7171]

I agree. The 1080 continues the trend of the x80 card being a terrible value. The way I see it, 1070 is the only card that matters here. It brings the 980 Ti/Titan X performance tier at a much lower price point, while the 1080 just moves the needle a bit but doesn't bring enough additional performance to the table to drive 4K@60Hz. Moving from 30->37 FPS doesn't really get me excited...

In retrospect, the 980 Ti was a bigger deal compared to 980 because it actually made 4K somewhat playable, many games barely hold 30 FPS at 4K on the 980.

Additionally, with the rumors that Vega might ship later this year 1080 may not end up holding onto its performance crown as long as other cards have. I would not be surprised if the 1080 ends up having very poor longevity (relative to its price) for a flagship.

I've been down the 680/780/980 road and I can say I'll skip the 1080. It's just not worth it.

 

[C@mM!]

I've been down the 680/780/980 road and I can say I'll skip the 1080. It's just not worth it.

Amen to that. Just not worth paying the release price of x80 cards when you know they'll lose 30% of value once a big die version is released.

 

[SolMiester]

Rather underwhelming. Reviews show an overclocked 1080 ~20% faster than an overclocked 980 Ti. Not enough to justify an upgrade which makes buying a 980 Ti on launch this time last year a great deal, especially considering the price hike of the 1080. I'll be interested to see what the 1080 Ti offers.

I dont think NV expects 980Ti users to upgrade. They have already stated numerous times that they target and show benches from the previous gen ie; 780 in this case..

 

[faseman]

$700+ for a 300mm2 die, only suckers pay the nvidia tax.