[Various]Radeon Fury X and Radeon Fury coming

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thehotsung8701A

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Why is NV Surround so bad? Did I miss something?

NO the thing is every time I google which one is better, all the result are from 2012 to 2013. There no talk about which is better from 2014 to 2015 and since so few people use these feature, it so hard to ask this question and getting a solid answer from.

Well apparently, Nvidia has more problem with switching from gaming on all 3 monitors to individual screen when back onto desktop. And that a big issue.
 

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I have used both. They're not too different. There are a few quirks with surround. It didnt like to keep my monitor order when turning it off and back on, I would have to reset my resolution as well with the bezel adjustments each time I turned it back on.

They both have issues with some games, it seems to be the same games though.
 

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I have used both. They're not too different. There are a few quirks with surround. It didnt like to keep my monitor order when turning it off and back on, I would have to reset my resolution as well with the bezel adjustments each time I turned it back on.

They both have issues with some games, it seems to be the same games though.

Have you used both recently?
 

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AMD is showing a running and apparently fully working version of “Fiji” to customers but not to the Press, so Leo asked Ron if he might relent. They both knew the other side of the Sapphire NDA door was the card Leo wanted to see, so Leo asked if he could see the card and take photos.

AIBs are only first seeing a working top end Fiji at Computex? This is probably the only 2nd hand account about Fiji I believe given how all over the place the semi-insider sources have been.

KitGuru Says: It is hard to understand why AMD is not prepared to show “Fiji” to the Press."

Not very hard at all when they've gone to such lengths to keep information from leaking before their E3 event.
 
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If AMD lets in one journalist with a scoop, they would be showing favoritism and annoy the heck out of every other tech site... come on peeps, E3 is the official announce.. hang tight!
 

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If Fury is slower than 980Ti which was said 2 days ago, AMD probably want to keep improving drivers and clocks to squeeze out as much performance as possible before announcing the card.

Plus its better to have your own event at E3 where its mostly about games (and Dark Souls 3!!) than announcing it at Computex and sort of drown in all the other cards and stuff being announced.

Who knows.
 

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If Fury is slower than 980Ti which was said 2 days ago, AMD probably want to keep improving drivers and clocks to squeeze out as much performance as possible before announcing the card.

Plus its better to have your own event at E3 where its mostly about games (and Dark Souls 3!!) than announcing it at Computex and sort of drown in all the other cards and stuff being announced.

Who knows.

Unless they screwed the design, and extrapolating from the 285, it should be 57% in games and 62% in synthetics compared to a 290X Tri X.
 

LTC8K6

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is this any better than using x-fire, or exactly the same as the connector on top just goes straight to the other GPU?

It is using Xfire.

AMD got rid of the connector for most of the newer cards.

You can put 2 AMD cards in Xfire without a connector.
 

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And apparently it works, since FCAT measurements now favor AMD... and so now very few reviews include them.
Yeah wierd that, notice there hasn't been a single maxwell sli fcat review anywhere on the net since the release of 980/970 which showed them to dropping frames like a mother. NOT a single Titan X sli or 980ti sli fcat review anywhere on the web. There's simply no way to know if this has been fixed or not:
 

exar333

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Have you used both recently?

I used 3x1200P on NV surround (using a GTX 670) up until about a year when I replaced that with my 3440x1440. It worked fine...

What was more of a pain was actual game support. I got tired of hacking config files for some games to get it to work (looking at you D3). Then, the game is updated to either natively support it (awesome!) or disable even the hacks :\

Going back to a single monitor made life a lot easier, but I didn't have issues with that setup on either my 5870 or the 670 that replaced it. Again, all the same resolution, but different monitor models. 2 Dells (2408 and 2412) plus an HP.
 

exar333

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If Fury is slower than 980Ti which was said 2 days ago, AMD probably want to keep improving drivers and clocks to squeeze out as much performance as possible before announcing the card.

Plus its better to have your own event at E3 where its mostly about games (and Dark Souls 3!!) than announcing it at Computex and sort of drown in all the other cards and stuff being announced.

Who knows.

Yeah, kind of in a holding pattern right now. With TX and 980Ti performance so close, if AMD was shooting for TX-level for Fiji, they maybe are trying to position their different Fiji options as favorably as possible. 5% more performance could mean the difference in being able to sell it for $100 or more higher. That's a big deal.
 

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Yeah, kind of in a holding pattern right now. With TX and 980Ti performance so close, if AMD was shooting for TX-level for Fiji, they maybe are trying to position their different Fiji options as favorably as possible. 5% more performance could mean the difference in being able to sell it for $100 or more higher. That's a big deal.
Yup, well said.

You get water cooling which is a huge plus. But I have to wonder though, at say $750-$850 for Fury X, how would it sell against a EVGA GTX 980Ti Hybrid for $750 which is running a 1228MHz clock (vs 1080MHz stock) with equal good cooling as AMD Fury X and faster than Titan X..
 
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funny how that works.
it isn't funny, it is @#$% up :'( I now basically have to go out of my way to find trust worthy review sites. it also makes me question every damn review I have read in the past, damn.:thumbsdown:

does pc gamer do reviews? maybe the reason why amd partner up with them because they were the only unbiased reviewer of the 200 series. gonna google.
 
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exar333

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it isn't funny, it is @#$% up :'( I now basically have to go out of my way to find trust worthy review sites. it also makes me question every damn review I have read in the past, damn.:thumbsdown:

does pc gamer do reviews? maybe the reason why amd partner up with them because they were the only unbiased reviewer of the 200 series. gonna google.

Definitely agree. It was something that we started expecting to see in a good, thorough GPU review.

To play devil's advocate a bit, FCAT really came to the center stage when NV started pushing this measurement in 2013 (IIRC?) due to SLI advantages over CF at that time. The tables have turned somewhat now, although not quite to the severity, and we are not seeing this in a lot of reviews.

AMD should really start pushing and advertising their performance advantages here, especially in CF. On the high end, this can make a pretty big difference in the user experience.
 

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it isn't funny, it is @#$% up :'( I now basically have to go out of my way to find trust worthy review sites. it also makes me question every damn review I have read in the past, damn.:thumbsdown:

does pc gamer do reviews? maybe the reason why amd partner up with them because they were the only unbiased reviewer of the 200 series. gonna google.

I agree its crap. During the years review sites i have frequented have turned into marketing channels. One of the effects is there is no non biased review of eg nv cards anymore. Its more or less nv commercials and this frac assessment its just a sad example of it. Pathetic.

But hey its also my impression this biased review style be it gfx cards or mobile phones is more an american than european problem.
We have good french and especially german review sites. Use them instead. The germans is generally freaking good at testing stuff consistently, detailed and objectively. Learn german or use translate.
 

exar333

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I agree its crap. During the years review sites i have frequented have turned into marketing channels. One of the effects is there is no non biased review of eg nv cards anymore. Its more or less nv commercials and this frac assessment its just a sad example of it. Pathetic.

But hey its also my impression this biased review style be it gfx cards or mobile phones is more an american than european problem.
We have good french and especially german review sites. Use them instead. The germans is generally freaking good at testing stuff consistently, detailed and objectively. Learn german or use translate.

Pretty much.

Goes back to the lack of people willing to pay for content (other than by supporting ads).

I wouldn't have an issue paying a monthly charge for AT, if that meant I got great, unbiased reviews vs. the ads plastering the page. Thankfully I use adblock most of the time, but some devices don't support that well (iPad, etc.)

That's why people loved Top Gear (UK) so much. That show just doesn't work in it's same form in the US. Eventually you would just p!ss off your potential advertisers and go out of business. :/
 

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I agree its crap. During the years review sites i have frequented have turned into marketing channels. One of the effects is there is no non biased review of eg nv cards anymore. Its more or less nv commercials and this frac assessment its just a sad example of it. Pathetic.

But hey its also my impression this biased review style be it gfx cards or mobile phones is more an american than european problem.
We have good french and especially german review sites. Use them instead. The germans is generally freaking good at testing stuff consistently, detailed and objectively. Learn german or use translate.
yea, someone linked a french website when I was looking to buy a gpu back in 9/2014. it was the only review website that had what I was looking for.

care to link some of those websites? I would like more than just 1 website. and yes, I do use google translate for them. not about to learn a language just for gpu reviews :biggrin:
 
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