it doesn't work in the US because they've bastardized it each time they've tried to bring it state side
Pretty much.
Goes back to the lack of people willing to pay for content (other than by supporting ads).
I wouldn't have an issue paying a monthly charge for AT, if that meant I got great, unbiased reviews vs. the ads plastering the page. Thankfully I use adblock most of the time, but some devices don't support that well (iPad, etc.)
That's why people loved Top Gear (UK) so much. That show just doesn't work in it's same form in the US. Eventually you would just p!ss off your potential advertisers and go out of business. :/
Pretty much.
Goes back to the lack of people willing to pay for content (other than by supporting ads).
I wouldn't have an issue paying a monthly charge for AT, if that meant I got great, unbiased reviews vs. the ads plastering the page. Thankfully I use adblock most of the time, but some devices don't support that well (iPad, etc.)
That's why people loved Top Gear (UK) so much. That show just doesn't work in it's same form in the US. Eventually you would just p!ss off your potential advertisers and go out of business. :/
yea, someone linked a french website when I was looking to buy a gpu back in 9/2014. it was the only review website that had what I was looking for.
care to link some of those websites? I would like more than just 1 website. and yes, I do use google translate for them. not about to learn a language just for gpu reviews :biggrin:
They are, look at their apu marketing and pay attention to the words smooth gaming.Definitely agree. It was something that we started expecting to see in a good, thorough GPU review.
To play devil's advocate a bit, FCAT really came to the center stage when NV started pushing this measurement in 2013 (IIRC?) due to SLI advantages over CF at that time. The tables have turned somewhat now, although not quite to the severity, and we are not seeing this in a lot of reviews.
AMD should really start pushing and advertising their performance advantages here, especially in CF. On the high end, this can make a pretty big difference in the user experience.
And apparently it works, since FCAT measurements now favor AMD... and so now very few reviews include them.
Yeah wierd that, notice there hasn't been a single maxwell sli fcat review anywhere on the net since the release of 980/970 which showed them to dropping frames like a mother. NOT a single Titan X sli or 980ti sli fcat review anywhere on the web. There's simply no way to know if this has been fixed or not: pics snipped
it isn't funny, it is @#$% up :'( I now basically have to go out of my way to find trust worthy review sites. it also makes me question every damn review I have read in the past, damn.:thumbsdown:
does pc gamer do reviews? maybe the reason why amd partner up with them because they were the only unbiased reviewer of the 200 series. gonna google.
It's funny but at least it makes it easy to see which sites are absolutely in Nvidias pocket (hi pcper), who's questionable, and who you can probably trust. Even around here there was a small group that preached FCAT (I could list but ()), but now it's never brought up with AMD beating Nvidia with their own FCAT toy.
Oh well, hopefully frame time comparisons come up whenever AMD decides to release some products.
They are, look at their apu marketing and pay attention to the words smooth gaming.
it doesn't work in the US because they've bastardized it each time they've tried to bring it state side
True, I don't dispute that.
Its just sad that so many GPU/tech reviews are becoming PR pieces. Eventually we will end-up like where we currently sit for video game reviews. The reviewer is controlled by their sponsors, who happen to be the ones making the games reviewed. Complete conflict of interest.
yea, someone linked a french website when I was looking to buy a gpu back in 9/2014. it was the only review website that had what I was looking for.
care to link some of those websites? I would like more than just 1 website. and yes, I do use google translate for them. not about to learn a language just for gpu reviews :biggrin:
It reminds me of how Blurbusters started. A guy with passion for the tech and a desire to be arduous in his testing. He came right out and stated he like nV for pushing blur reduction tech into monitors first and then still highlighted AMD options and tested the crap outta all of 'em. Sadly, I haven't seen anything new on his site in a couple months, but there has been a lull in monitors of late, too.
I'm hopeful there are other such industrious people who will rise up and gather followers by being better and unbiased in their testing. I think such a site would get noticed quickly by our community.
Also, ToastyX's contributions to people OC'ing monitors to get the IPS 120Hz things going and just asking for voluntary donations from people who benefited from his work. The honest enthusiasts are real, we just need to appreciate them when they show themselves.
Sorry for following this tangent...
I don't just want oc, I want reviews of the best 3rd party versions. why not do a review of the best vs best in both camps that includes 3rd party AIBs? and you can certainly include oc in there too.I'm extremely picky when it comes to GPU reviews. I think Ryan does the best job breaking down the new technologies and explaining everything is great detail ( He's a really smart guy).
I'm more picky about the testing methodologies. I would like to see multiple cards running at their stock and/or advertised clock speeds, but also throw "OC" numbers in as well - this would be for every card in the test, not just the card being reviewed. The only issue is, these reviewer's cards are too Golden, as they "OC" like champs From my experience...
got the french website, it was what I used. saving the german one + the one by hitman. now I got 3. lets see how they fare in this round of gpu releases.
I want to build a brand new computer to run in 5760 X 1080p resolution and I don’t think a GTX 970 is enough for that.
So I'm confuse, on June 16 we will get info about the new GPU but isn't it until the 24th, that info about the Fury and Fury X will be release?
Talk about a long wait.
Yeah wierd that, notice there hasn't been a single maxwell sli fcat review anywhere on the net since the release of 980/970 which showed them to dropping frames like a mother. NOT a single Titan X sli or 980ti sli fcat review anywhere on the web.
The onslaught of fake, unsubstantiated rumors has slowed today. What's going on!?
/sarcasm
Can't wait for 2 weeks from now...some real reviews.
Yeah I agree. Here's a spin. I wonder why nVidia decided on exactly 2 weeks before Fiji. Is it because most places only have a 2 week return policy on electronics?
That's not to say AMD's CF doesn't have problems. It does too!
That's why I like the European sites more like Computerbase, Hardware.fr, Sweclockers. It seems some of them haven't fallen in bed with NV, yet.
When AMD's new stack is released, I would not trust most of the big US tech sites to provide unbiased coverage. Probably the only US ones with credibility is AnandTech.
That's not to say AMD's CF doesn't have problems. It does too!
Sweclockers Titan X SLI Review
But remember we are talking $600 GPU setup vs. an $1100 GPU setup. IMO, 980 SLI should be winning 95% of the time. It doesn't but FCAT proponents like PCPerspective, TechReport, HardwareCanucks aren't showing Maxwell SLI stuttering/frame pacing issues. Why not? :whiste:
The key takeaway here is that if 2 cards are not that much faster than a single fast chip, a single chip fast card is preferable. That's why today a 980Ti OC is far preferable to GTX970 SLI or R9 295X2 or 290X CF.
That's why I like the European sites more like Computerbase, Hardware.fr, Sweclockers. It seems some of them haven't fallen in bed with NV, yet.
Sweclockers does some.
That's why I am stunned how people paid $1100 for GTX980 SLI over a $600 R9 295X2. In many popular games 980 SLI actually performs worse but costs nearly double.
I remember how big of a deal this FCAT testing was when it came and all praised how superior SLI is, now nobody talk about micro stutter or FCAT numbers, especially nvidia owners. I wonder why the forums are so quiet now days regarding FCAT? :whiste:
Instead FCAT and micro stutter on CF/SLI talk has been quietly swayed towards game works and how badly AMD CF support is new modern games at launch. When one company has 80% of the customers, no wonder it fells like what ever the other company does, it's not good enough and is still considered inferior.
Even now every day once in a while someone comes along to these forums and say that nvidia drivers are so much better or SLI is better or something similar. And they do in a fashion that I believe they actually them self believe it because it has always been so, even though times change and the truth is far from it.
There's actually quite alot of people that's selling their 980 or 970 SLI to upgrade to single 980 Ti. Reasons? Can't stand the stutters on their SLI setups on some games.I remember how big of a deal this FCAT testing was when it came and all praised how superior SLI is, now nobody talk about micro stutter or FCAT numbers, especially nvidia owners. I wonder why the forums are so quiet now days regarding FCAT? :whiste:
Instead FCAT and micro stutter on CF/SLI talk has been quietly swayed towards game works and how badly AMD CF support is new modern games at launch. When one company has 80% of the customers, no wonder it fells like what ever the other company does, it's not good enough and is still considered inferior.
Even now every day once in a while someone comes along to these forums and say that nvidia drivers are so much better or SLI is better or something similar. And they do in a fashion that I believe they actually them self believe it because it has always been so, even though times change and the truth is far from it.