Well, May is only a bit over a month away. Was the latest rumors stating a complete lineup in May, or was it June?
So many rumors. I can only hope they nail it with an 8GB HBM titan beating $550 390x. I'll believe it when I see it though.
I think the sweet spot price for the 390x would be $649. High but not too high, and more than low enough to be a punch in the gut to the Titan X.
In this thread, people argue that a solution that is objectively proven to result in lower temperatures, lower noise, with a higher power consumption GPU is somehow worse.
What's next guys, how water cooling isn't a "premium design" like the Titan cooler because it doesn't use aluminum?
If you don't want a higher performing solution, you're not an enthusiast. Watercooling has long been very effective but expensive. Now it's just very effective.
The only issue I see with an AIO isn't with enthusiasts, it with OEM. If the reference design includes AIO, then that could cause problems with people buying these for workstations, SFF, older Mac Pros, or companies like Dell/Alienware/Origin. It may not be a large chunk of people, but it does make the card more niche. No doubt about it. Straying from industry standard design will exclude some sales. Curious to know how it will affect sales, especially if they start doing AIO on anything lower than the high end.
The only issue I see with an AIO isn't with enthusiasts, it with OEM. If the reference design includes AIO, then that could cause problems with people buying these for workstations, SFF, older Mac Pros, or companies like Dell/Alienware/Origin. It may not be a large chunk of people, but it does make the card more niche. No doubt about it. Straying from industry standard design will exclude some sales. Curious to know how it will affect sales, especially if they start doing AIO on anything lower than the high end.
I was seriously thinking of getting the Titan X, basically for two reasons. The first was for gaming at 4K and more importantly the second was for CUDA in 3d rendering, specifically Octane. One interesting development with Octane is that they're going to release an OpenCl version in version 3 later on in the year which means that I'm not tied down to Nvidia anymore, and price wise AMD looks more appealing. I am wondering if there is a slow shift going from CUDA to OpenCl in general. Either way I am definetly NOT getting the Titan X now and will wait to see the price and performance of the AMD cards. Interesting times ahead. I wonder if other devs will start shifting to OpenCl now that it is becoming more mature.
Actually, a question for anyone who knows about the cooler on the 295X, do you think that I'd be able to swap out the fans on the rad for that cooler, and if so would that sort of thing give a noise/cooling boost like I've heard it does with things like the Corsair AIOs?
I dont think anyone is questioning the performance of an AIO CLC. But time and time again, many people have already pointed out why its a bad idea to have one as a reference design especially from a business perspective unless its a niche product like the R295X where it actually makes sense.
Perhaps the GM200 is pushing the blower cooler to its limits.. It would have been wise for them to go with a Titan Z type open air cooler (e.g. 7900GTX - central fan) but perhaps theyll do that next time.
390x would probably be around 700$ I consider that price to be just right.
As far as pricing goes it's pure supply and demand. You charge as much as you can while still selling all that you make/buy.
The reason I keep talking about non-X 390 is because 2nd best AMD cards (5850/6950/7950/290 non-X) tend to be knock outs with unbeatable price/performance. I know people are going to be naturally excited for the top 390X card but AMD tends to charge a very large premium for their top card which is often just 5-10% faster than their 2nd best when both are max overclocked.
Yeap, 3850/4850/5850/6950/7950 all of those had the best perf/price in their market segment.
Im also expecting R9 390 (non X) to be close to $499-$549 and give you 85-90% of Titan-X performance.
Basically the non-full yielding 390X has to go somewhere, but AMD has to still use the 4096-bit HBM for it. That's what I like about AMD cards is the memory and ROP side is rarely cut down. That's what allows the 2nd fastest AMD card to overclock to within 90-95% of their flagship. The same doesn't happen for NV very often. In overclocked states 980 retains its 16-19% lead. Similarly you can't really overclock 470 or 780 to 95% of 480/780Ti's overclocked speeds.
That's why I think the most exciting high end card match up might be 390 non-X OC vs. GM200 6GB OC, and 390 non-X OC CF vs. Titan X OC.