Thank you for the info Glo. I hope they make an air cooled Big Vega that can be water-cooled. Would love to integrate it into my custom water cooled Ryzen 7 1800x build.
Thank you for the info Glo. I hope they make an air cooled Big Vega that can be water-cooled. Would love to integrate it into my custom water cooled Ryzen 7 1800x build.
leave the financial crap out of the thread. This is for Vega rumors.
When a stock loses 25% ahead of a major product launch, it is noteworthy and could be tied to any of these recent rumors. While it is more likely that the loss is the result of simple binary decision making (If [New product: (Ryzen)] != [instant green quarter], then SELL) we cannot completely discount the possibility of a devastating vega leak causing this.
When a stock loses 25% ahead of a major product launch, it is noteworthy and could be tied to any of these recent rumors. While it is more likely that the loss is the result of simple binary decision making (If [New product: (Ryzen)] != [instant green quarter], then SELL) we cannot completely discount the possibility of a devastating vega leak causing this.
While theoretically possible, that was not the case in reality. A moot point.When a stock loses 25% ahead of a major product launch, it is noteworthy and could be tied to any of these recent rumors. While it is more likely that the loss is the result of simple binary decision making (If [New product: (Ryzen)] != [instant green quarter], then SELL) we cannot completely discount the possibility of a devastating vega leak causing this.
Source please
Very dodgy: http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-vega-specs-leaked-linux-patch/Source please
Very dodgy: http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-vega-specs-leaked-linux-patch/
So basically a die-shrunk Fury with HBM2, I guess also with higher clocks and a few other tweaks.
Well there is not much to think about a GPU from AMD, that has been registered for release.
If they were registered yesterday that means we are going to see the launch very soon.
Don't think they need to, they simply need to be better or close to Intel (APU) + Nvidia (dGPU) to corner that part of that market, though the top end will be Nvidia for the foreseeable future because AMD don't have anything to replace that GTX 1070~1080 in a laptop, however the number of users who buy such a config is very limited.
Comparison with Fiji will be very interesting.
Ya, I'm very very angry I didn't have this event bookmarked. And yes I do think Financials are relevant. It's not something to debate about or freak out about like we normally do by comparing it to Nvidia.The stock sell off has nothing to do with Vega news (consider that essentially nothing actionable has been released re: Vega), and everything to do with the Q1 report on Monday evening and AMD's projected margin adjustment for Q2.
I agree. If AMD doesn't improve performance/flop and watt over their 28nm designs it will be a failureComparisons to several AMD architectures will be very interesting. As well as comparisons to Nvidia in the context of previous AMD chips to Nvidia.
They must do much better than Fiji performance-per-flop (PPF), first and foremost.
Miserable Fiji PPF (Fury X) would put Vega at only ~81% of an aftermarket 1080 Ti, assuming it is 1525MHz:
https://tpucdn.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_1080_Ti_SC2/images/perfrel_2560_1440.png
At lower resolutions Hawaii and Polaris trade with each other for the AMD GPU with the best PPF, Hawaii due to 64 ROPs and rich bandwidth, and Polaris due to architectural improvements. But at 1440p or higher Hawaii usually just outright brute forces past Polaris as the PPF king.
Not finally decisively beating the nearly 4 year old Hawaii in PPF would be a technical failure for Vega (this is independent of price and features). Given that this is 2 years after Fiji, they should have figured out how to balance it properly. Matching PPF of Hawaii and Polaris, assuming 12.5 TFLOP is true, would see this at least trade with the 1080 Ti.
Using same TPU chart, Vega with Polaris 10 PPF (using 480) would be ~94% of an aftermarket 1080 Ti. Using ancient Hawaii PPF (390) would put Vega at ~107%.
Note that I am not trying to create hype and actual expectations, if anything it shows how AMD PPF can vary wildly thanks to design decisions. Vega could regress, stagnate, or progress in PPF. Also 12.5 TFLOPs (seen months ago) could have been cancelled and revised down lower.
Why are they comparing results from different OSes - Windows vs. Mac OS X?
The results are from Compubench (OpenCL) & AMD almost always beats anything Nvidia at that, for the consumer (gaming) parts at the very least but it doesn't tell us anything apart from gpgpu performance.Which one of those results best translates into typical AAA gaming performance? I have no familiarity with that benchmark site.