https://twitter.com/catalystmaker/status/889946633575780352I sense a BIG day for Radeon Software tomorrow. Cant wait to let the cat out of the bag......
Vega is a 484mm^2. If it can't beat 1080 without being pushed to the limit that's still a failure.
Do you expect Vega "unicorn" driver?
Do you expect Vega "unicorn" driver?
Perf/watt only matters if the performance is high when the perf/watt is also high. Unfortunately it looks like VEGA wouldn't be anything special when ran at optimal level.I wonder if vega is actually pretty good at per/watt, but is being pushed really hard with the high clocks and voltage, just so that they could get near 1080~ performance, losing the efficiency and still ending up as a massive failure in the eyes of gamers? Looking at rx 570 aftermarket cards, they range from consuming close to 120w, all the way to 200w. So even after a rather small overclock they start to really suck up the juice.
So all they need to do is focus on IPC increases to remain profitable!51% increase in computing and graphics revenue. Their revenue increase was about equal to Ryzen's IPC increase of 52%.
Translation: Our current (including Vega) gaming lineup covers ~95% of the market (in case Vega is much slower than 1080 Ti), while our data-center, ML and AI compute offer covers ~10% of the market. In order be more competitive, we need to improve our offer. Even though our hardware is not that bad for those purposes, most of users in the market use nVidia, Intel or some FPGA. And all of them have put huge amount of money in R&D (nVidia Volta, Google TPU, Intel Lake Crest...). And we also need to work a lot to improve our software stack (ROCm, HIP...) since CUDA is probably no.1 and we are far behind it. If we don't do this, we will lose this market completely and will never be able to enter it again.From the AMD Q2 earnings Q&A: "R&D is very focused on datacenter processing, machine learning & compute."
Translation: Don't expect a competitive gaming GPU from AMD any time soon, probably not ever again.
Regarding gaming GPUs, we will continue with incremental improvements and we know what to improve in order to be more competitive. We made mistake ~4 years ago, when we thought high end GPUs market is decreasing, but in the last 2 years we have started to design our new GPUs for new market requirements (4K screens, VR sets, 144+ Hz, HDR monitors). Though it takes time when you start almost from scratch, like in (Ry)Zen case.
You think four years ago AMD was betting that there would not be high end graphics needs in 2017, and to address this they designed the Vega? Which is a pretty big chip?
From the AMD Q2 earnings Q&A: "R&D is very focused on datacenter processing, machine learning & compute."
Translation: Don't expect a competitive gaming GPU from AMD any time soon, probably not ever again.
Enhanced Sync
NVIDIA’s Fast Sync finally gets a competitor. With 17.7.2 driver AMD introduces an alternative to VSync called Enhanced Sync. I’m not going to explain how this works here, but what you need to know is that it will give you the advantages of VSync without the latency caused by synchronization with the display. No more tearing and no more lag.
Relive at 100 MB/s
Relive will now allow you to save the recordings at a higher bitrate. You will now be able to record at 100 Mb/s. The Relive in 17.7.2 driver will also allow you to add a webcam to the stream and boost the volume of the microphone from within the Radeon panel.
Radeon Chill now on laptops
Radeon Chill will now be enabled for mobile graphics cards, multi-GPU configurations and also external graphics cards. In case you don’t know what Radeon Chill is, it’s basically a frame limiting tool to lower power consumption and the heat.
yes and lots of ati references when extracting the package.Funny side note - If you look at the strings in the drivers (for example error messages) they still say CCC (Catalyst Control Center).
Funny side note - If you look at the strings in the drivers (for example error messages) they still say CCC (Catalyst Control Center).
https://www.nordichardware.se/nyheter/radeon-rx-vega-prislapp-sverige.html
This article going around the internet. Nordichardware has very high succes rate in their rumors. They saying in this post that they have seen the retail price which is exactly the same as 1080 ti, which is 699 $. This is for the water cooler version.
Unless AMD has performed some kind of miracle I don't see them selling many at that price. From what the leaks are pointing to Vega will potentially be slower than a 1080 and consume significantly more power. I just don't see how it can stack up against either the 1080 or the 1080ti at $700 or even $500 for that matter, especially with NVIDIA's ability to easily knock $50-$100 off the price (which they won't need to).