Lol, news flash, AMD don't care who they sell the cards to, they just want to sell them.Sure a lot of FUD flying in here.
My take is that AMD is trying to figure out a way to bypass miners with some of these cards and get them into the hands of some hardcore gamers instead. It's not a perfect plan, but it's indicative that they're aware of the problem.
True only to an extent, cards have to get into the hands of those who can generate positive buzz about the product, and miners don't do that.Lol, news flash, AMD don't care who they sell the cards to, they just want to sell them.
I don't understand their rational for NOT letting review sites review the cards right now.
They released pretty much everything, except the product, which they said the actual launch date is Aug. 14th, then again in Sept. 4 or 11th for the 3rd party cards to arrive.
I don't understand their rational for NOT letting review sites review the cards right now.
They released pretty much everything, except the product, which they said the actual launch date is Aug. 14th, then again in Sept. 4 or 11th for the 3rd party cards to arrive.
Bundle just reeks of desperation. Is this precedent setting? Has a bundle discount ever been announced for a GPU before it even launched?
My guess is drivers, as always. AMD has become known for getting more performance over time, and for launch day drivers not being great. It was the same thing a year ago with Polaris.
My guess is drivers, as always. AMD has become known for getting more performance over time, and for launch day drivers not being great. It was the same thing a year ago with Polaris.
At 600W. Cool.Wouldn't a "big polaris" be better?
IIRC, a 64 CU @ 1.3Ghz would be a bit ~5% faster than Vega
Did I miss something about Capsaicin?
Lol I guess you never had just about any service out there.
Bundle just reeks of desperation. Is this precedent setting? Has a bundle discount ever been announced for a GPU before it even launched?
the Radeon Packs are an attempt by AMD to “poison the well” for cryptocurrency miners, in order to ensure most RX Vega cards go to gamers
Because they need to have time to actually write the reviews?I don't understand their rational for NOT letting review sites review the cards right now.
They released pretty much everything, except the product, which they said the actual launch date is Aug. 14th, then again in Sept. 4 or 11th for the 3rd party cards to arrive.
WHQL qualification takes ~1-2 weeks (depending on how much cash you throw at MS), but, as we all know the difference between WHQL & the 'beta' drivers is just DRM bits, and signing.
There isn't going to be a surprise anywhere, look at their own slides, and you know for sure that they used their best numbers possible, and you know they had every feature enabled in the drivers for Vega when doing their own in-house tests.
Do they honestly think that 2 more weeks of marketing will "fix" anything for the reviewers?
Yes, they don't have enough cards for consumers (or even their OEMs), so, 2-7 weeks delay makes sense here, but, it still don't answer why they don't give out review samples.
The only possible reason I see is their own tests won't fully jive with what the reviewers will see.
Oh, someone asked why is Tim Sweeney there, and Raja told him they are going to give him lots of vega cards & threadripper systems. I think that pretty much explains why he showed up.
Lol, news flash, AMD don't care who they sell the cards to, they just want to sell them.
He has only demonstrated that DSBR is enabled in 17.20 and I showed you that there are features not enabled in 17.30, we don't even know if even DBSR is disabled there. Wait the reviews and stop creating FUD.Muhammed demonstrates above that DSBR is enabled for AMDs slides/benchmarks and this is the feature that most people were hoping would deliver big gains. It hasn't.
17.30 driver is not publicly available. It's the driver with DSRB enabled. Stop hanging to straws.So, they can have some preliminary support in 17.20 branch, but they had it enabled for that lab testing only and it's not enabled in publicly available driver package.
https://www.dvhardware.net/article66974.htmlFrom what we've gathered, the Radeon RX Vega performance figures AMD revealed yesterday include the expected gains of DSBR.
Exactly, AMD clearly told Ryan, GamerNexus redactors etc. that DSBR, power saving features and some other stuff are still not enabled in currently available driver (17.30 branch).
Yep I missed the same point in another discussion, mistaking FE for RX.Vega FE, NOT Vega RX. I am not sure why people are having so much trouble spotting the difference.
What outlets are you talking about? Nobody has gotten a Vega RX sample yet AFAIK. (Unless you count the Nano Tim got on stage.)Because they need to have time to actually write the reviews?
We've seen multiple outlets with cards in their hotel rooms, it's obvious they recieved review samples.
As far as having time to do a review, well, no kidding. I didn't say otherwise.That’s all we can dive into today and until we get cards in our hands to do real-world testing and performance evaluation, AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 and Vega 56 have been fully exposed.
Cred huh?LOL! Dude you'd have way more credibility if you just came out and said "I love every AMD GPU no matter what and will always find something positive to say, even if it's a completely unfounded rumor that is being proven false this very moment."
Bundle just reeks of desperation. Is this precedent setting? Has a bundle discount ever been announced for a GPU before it even launched?
Might help keep some out of the miners' hands.Bundle just reeks of desperation. Is this precedent setting? Has a bundle discount ever been announced for a GPU before it even launched?
Nope, you still don't get it. It's a credibility issue for AMD. They market the heck out of their CPU's for gaming, but when it comes to showing off their GPU's they use Intel CPU's because they know the Intel CPU's are better. So much better that it matters to how they think their GPU's will be perceived.