Does anyone think Vega will be too expensive as miners snap them up and inflate the price?
Does anyone think Vega will be too expensive as miners snap them up and inflate the price?
No, miners buy reasonably priced cards that mine well. Even if these mine well, they are too expensive. The return on investment will be too long.
That unless one Vega FE is worth at least 6 RX 480s, but I doubt that.
I don't think you've kept up on the RX 480 supply and demand situation. Also, I think most people are concerned about the consumer/gaming cards, not the Frontier Edition. And for that, I fully expect miners to ruin the market for them.
I know all about how out of stock most AMD GPUs are. My point is that other GPUs, even Nvidia GPUs, will be a lot more cost effective for miners than these Vega FE GPUs. Miners would rather pay a premium for GTX 1070 cards than pay an even bigger premium for Vega FE.
Once again, we know that Vega FE will perform somewhere between a 1080 and a 1080Ti, but it is priced way above a 1080. Why not just buy two 1080s? Those are not out of stock as far as I know.
Will AMD support 4-Way Crossfire for Vega?
Does anyone think Vega will be too expensive as miners snap them up and inflate the price?
p100throwaway said:Total power usage across 4 cards was ~1KW.
The total hashrate for all 4 cards was ~275 MH/s. When using one card, this number was closer to ~69MH/s.
Why would MI25 be faster than RX Vega?So Radeon MI25 Probably can do near 60Mh/s or more.Now I think RX Vega maybe get 50Mh/s or more.
I'm not following the news
is there anything coming from AMD at the $350-$450 range ?
and when it will come ?
https://videocardz.com/70465/msi-damn-rx-vega-needs-a-lot-of-powerI’ve seen the specs of Vega RX. It needs a damn lot of power. We’re working on it, which is a start so launch is coming closer
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6it7sv/msi_damn_rx_vega_needs_a_lot_of_power/dj8uvi0/Keep in mind that the quote showed in the screenshot is missing his follow-up post.
Someone replied:
That aint a positive sign.
To which he replied:
That depends on the level of performance...
Since it costs an order of magnitude more, I don't think so, they're not direct competitors as of yet.Recently-revealed Volta Tesla V100 PCIe: 14 TFLOPS single-precision, 2/1 half-precision, 1/2 double-precision, 250 W, kind of invalidates the FLOPS-to-power comparison, doesn't it?
Right, but no one knows if Vega 11 or cutdown RX Vega 10 is going to be released at the end of July, much less before the end of the year. Most people highly doubt that Vega 11 will be out by the end of Q3, and it seems likely destined for 2018 (meaning, that $350 range--OK, assuming they aren't swamped by miners, where this phase has made the current, real cost to consumer of something like the RX 580 upwards of $700...wtf. ). MSRp of Polaris currently only goes up to $250-270, right? RX580 was never targeted for $350. Unless they plan on some further revision, like a 585, but that seems unreasoable for Polaris, considering how inefficient it was going from 480 to 580. I would think that the "585" line would be a Vega 11 going forward.
if they beat the 1080ti by more than 15% in DX11 I will wear a dress for a week and pre-order one immediately.
They don't need nVidia margins. Just a profit.Cheaper than competition but more costly to manufacture. If aside from mining and its impact on price.
Kind of. The reason Fiji disappeared so quickly was do to the fact that as it performance got farther behind Nvidia they couldn't lower the price low enough without losing money per sale.They don't need nVidia margins. Just a profit.
All Vega needs to achieve right now is performance parity at an improved perf/$, if they beat the 1080ti by more than 15% in DX11 I will wear a dress for a week and pre-order one immediately.
All Vega needs to do for me is be better than a GTX1080. I'm not buying Nvidia with their anti-consumer practices with G-Sync and refusal to work with Freesync.
They could've been making money on the G-Sync licensing/hardware in monitors and had them used by both brands of video card... making money with every monitor purchase.
But no, they had to try to make their own special little playpen.
Right now Nvidia is dominating high end GPU market. Vega will soon have to compete with Volta GV104 and GV102 in Q1/Q2 2018. Nvidia must have already taped out or be very closing to taping out their 7nm GPUs at TSMC. So I don't think AMD can cause too much problems for Nvidia. Nvidia has been pushing GPU generations at 18-24 months. AMD has yet to prove they can even catch up to Nvidia.