Didn't he just pull that number out of thin air? It was basically that he wouldn't expect more than 8% better performance but not based on anything? Or was this something passed on by AMD? I don't remember from the stream.
Didn't he just pull that number out of thin air? It was basically that he wouldn't expect more than 8% better performance but not based on anything? Or was this something passed on by AMD? I don't remember from the stream.He also said expect up to an 8% boost with RX Vega according to reddit.
- http://techreport.com/review/31224/the-curtain-comes-up-on-amd-vega-architecture/3The draw-stream binning rasterizer won't always be the rasterization approach that a Vega GPU will use. Instead, it's meant to complement the existing approaches possible on today's Radeons. AMD says that the DSBR is "highly dynamic and state-based," and that the feature is just another path through the hardware that can be used to improve rendering performance. By using data in a cache-aware fashion and only moving data when it has to, though, AMD thinks that this rasterizer will help performance in situations where the graphics memory (or high-bandwidth cache) becomes a bottleneck, and it'll also save power even when the path to memory isn't saturated.
6) Many argue that vega is just a refined polaris gpu, how would you respond to this ?
My software team wishes this was true
Vega is both a new GPU architecture and also completely new SOC architecture. It's our first InfinityFabric GPU as well
At this point we need to wait at least a month for the release of the RX Vega to see what it has.
Also price will really come into play. If "consumer" Vega is near or perhaps below the GTX 1080 in price it might do well.
If it is near the GTX 1080TI, it's probably a lights out situation similar to the GTX 980TI vs Fury X.
I have a Ryzen 1800x and despite the generally good press AMD has received on Ryzen, it has not been all "peaches and cream" with this cpu and the Asus Hero VI mb. Memory and BIOS updates continue but it appears that the cpu is no pretty solid.
Vega might be a different story because it was supposed to "restore" AMD/RTG to the high end GPU market. A fair reading of Vega FE sure doesn't look so good. For AMD and especially RTG's sake I hope Raja and his team has a better release of RX Vega. Perhaps the release of the upcoming ThreadRipper cpu will take off some of the pressure.
Personally, I ran 2 RX480s in CF because it was fun to do but sold one @ 1 month ago in anticipation of a Vega release. When I started to notice delays, I snagged an EK waterblock at a great price and have the single RX480 WC'd and running solid at 1400 core. Nice gpu for 2560x1080 resolution but my GTX 1080 spanks it hard (i.e. Firestrike 19800 GTX1080 vs 12470 for the RX480 OC'd to 1400).
If consumer Vega barely matched a GTX1080 and I want to run 4k, it looks like the GTX1080TI might be in the offing.
The ball is in the AMD/RTG court. UGH!
Well it's 999$ atm :>Explain to me how Vega is a good deal if it's priced at gtx 1080 or lower?
It's slower than a gtx 1080 from what we can currently see. It'd need to be priced significantly lower to not only cover the performance deficit but the massive power increase as well.
So far without bringing freesync into the equation, with current performance I wouldn't recommend this to anyone unless it was sold at $400.
None of us know what is going on, look drop the emotional sarcasm, would you honestly suggest up to 8℅ would be acceptable at 300w? Of course not, maybe calling for rajas head is a bit hasty as we have no idea of the budget he was given but still anything less than 20℅ performance improvement next month will be a massive disappointment, you agree?sure. AMD should obviously hire you to head RTG, because you know what it is going on here.
Explain to me how Vega is a good deal if it's priced at gtx 1080 or lower?
It's slower than a gtx 1080 from what we can currently see. It'd need to be priced significantly lower to not only cover the performance deficit but the massive power increase as well.
So far without bringing freesync into the equation, with current performance I wouldn't recommend this to anyone unless it was sold at $400.
This will be a great move! Definitely vote with your wallet to support the businesses you like as a consumer!I'm hopping into a new monitor, and I'm buying Freesync (heavily because Nvidia's business practices currently disgust me) and by doing so I save $200-300 on a 2K 144hz monitor so... it's cheaper for me.
Yes that's why I have the freesync qualifier in my post. I've made hundreds of posts explaining why freesync bundle automatically makes any amd gpu a good value.I'm hopping into a new monitor, and I'm buying Freesync (heavily because Nvidia's business practices currently disgust me) and by doing so I save $200-300 on a 2K 144hz monitor so... it's cheaper for me.
Consumer RX will be much better optimized for all the top gaming titles
RX will be fully optimized gaming drivers, as well as a few other goodies that I can't tell you about just yet
Many argue that vega is just a refined polaris gpu, how would you respond to this ?
My software team wishes this was true
Vega is both a new GPU architecture and also completely new SOC architecture. It's our first InfinityFabric GPU as well
I hope you are rightI think everyone needs to pump the breaks.. here are some comments from Raja Koduri himself. Put the pieces together. The wait will be worth it
It'd need to be priced significantly lower to not only cover the performance deficit but the massive power increase as well.
That extra 80w at 10 hours of gaming per day is a whopping $35 / year. After 4+ years it might make up the difference in cost between GSync and Freesync... But we all know someone buying it won't keep it for 4 years anyway...
I could get away with an 1080ti and a 450W PSU
Indeed.Hate to break it to you, but a 1080 ti also uses 300w+ when OC'd and aftermarket can use 280w+ avg.
Yes but at what performance level??Hate to break it to you, but a 1080 ti also uses 300w+ when OC'd and aftermarket can use 280w+ avg.
Yes but at what performance level??
Considering how they hyped Polaris... I wouldn't just trust what they are hinting.I think everyone needs to pump the breaks.. here are some comments from Raja Koduri himself. Put the pieces together. The wait will be worth it
Explain to me how Vega is a good deal if it's priced at gtx 1080 or lower?
It's slower than a gtx 1080 from what we can currently see. It'd need to be priced significantly lower to not only cover the performance deficit but the massive power increase as well.
So far without bringing freesync into the equation, with current performance I wouldn't recommend this to anyone unless it was sold at $400.