OatisCampbell
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I have to wonder why the 1000W recommendation on a 345W card?They recommended 750W for Hawaii too even though you had a ton of headroom on a quality 550 watt unit.
I have to wonder why the 1000W recommendation on a 345W card?They recommended 750W for Hawaii too even though you had a ton of headroom on a quality 550 watt unit.
I have a feeling these cards will age quite well...if their anything like the last few generations of AMD cards there performance will keep getting better over the next few years. And if the Vega 56 still performs close to 1080 performance with a $399 price it will be a great bargain.
AMD also asserts that RX Vega 64 will be able to run over 100 modern games at 4K 60FPS or better.
In addition, the company says that the Radeon RX Vega 56 will be competitive with the GTX 1070.
AMD didn’t give a specific date, but said you should expect to see the card on store shelves this August.
Speaking of Fiji, there’s been some question over whether the already shipping Vega FE cards had AMD’s Draw Steam Binning Rasterizer enabled, which is one of the Vega architecture’s new features. The short answer is that no, the DSBR is not enabled in Vega FE’s current drivers. Whereas we have been told to expect it with the RX Vega launch. AMD is being careful not to make too many promises here – the performance and power impact of the DSBR vary wildly with the software used – but it means that the RX Vega will have a bit more going on than the Vega FE at launch.
Talking to AMD’s engineers, what especially surprised me is where the bulk of those transistors went; the single largest consumer of the additional 3.9B transistors was spent on designing the chip to clock much higher than Fiji. Vega 10 can reach 1.7GHz, whereas Fiji couldn’t do much more than 1.05GHz. Additional transistors are needed to add pipeline stages at various points or build in latency hiding mechanisms, as electrons can only move so far on a single clock cycle; this is something we’ve seen in NVIDIA’s Pascal, not to mention countless CPU designs. Still, what it means is that those 3.9B transistors are serving a very important performance purpose: allowing AMD to clock the card high enough to see significant performance gains over Fiji.
Umm... what's the deal, DMCA takedown on all livestreams?This was also recently posted...
Supposedly, live in 5 hours.
(This is NOT AMD, however, they are supposedly there, but, AMD's event doesn't start until 6PT, so unsure what these guys are going to be streaming before AMD's actual show.)
More minimum frame rates
Speaking of Fiji, there’s been some question over whether the already shipping Vega FE cards had AMD’s Draw Steam Binning Rasterizer enabled, which is one of the Vega architecture’s new features. The short answer is that no, the DSBR is not enabled in Vega FE’s current drivers. Whereas we have been told to expect it with the RX Vega launch. AMD is being careful not to make too many promises here – the performance and power impact of the DSBR vary wildly with the software used – but it means that the RX Vega will have a bit more going on than the Vega FE at launch.
OK, but does that even matter?
Lets say with drivers they DO keeping improving their competitive position, maybe even get close to 1080Ti in a couple years. To what end? a 1080Ti will be a pretty slow card two years from now.
These extra transistors don't seem to be spent wisely. This smells of the nonsensical P4/Bulldozer approach to things.
I dont like limited edition huge premium.We all knows how it was when GTX1070/1080 launched.Everyone and thier dog ignore "normal" prices and every aftermarket card cost more than FE.Aftermarket vega64 will probably cost 600-650USD and not 500-550USD.
I also dont like they cutdown second card more and more.290 and normal fury have same memory bandwidth as 290x/furyx.Vega 56 have only 410Gb/s so full vega have 20% higher memory badwidth.
It looks like AMD copying NVs worst things-FE and more cutdowns cards...
These extra transistors don't seem to be spent wisely. This smells of the nonsensical P4/Bulldozer approach to things. Interestingly Vega does well on pro applications but is a fail at gaming. It seems they can't do the jack of all trades chip anymore with this direction.