Vegas hurt by low tipping foreigners

madoka

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I did not know that servers would have to pay to serve bad-tipping tables since they have to split the tips. I assumed they'd split whatever they got, but it sounds like some workers are guaranteed a tip and it would come out of the server's pockets if customers don't tip or tip low.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/busine...g-travelers-worries-dealers-servers-las-vegas

As Strip properties prepare for more Chinese visitors, some casino employees say they are concerned they will have to forgo some tip money.

“It’s very difficult when you’re serving or relying on tips and the majority of your guests are foreign,” said Cheryl Holt, who has worked as a food server on the Strip since 2011. “They don’t tip you, or they may have a $200 meal and tip you a dollar per person.”

China has one of the fastest-growing segments of international travelers, and local tourism officials hope to capture as many of them as possible. Chinese travelers are the highest-spending international visitor group, according to the U.S. Commercial Service, part of the Department of Commerce. But people who rely on tips will probably not directly benefit much from that spending.

A 2016 MasterCard survey found 16 percent of Chinese consumers generally leave a tip in a bar or restaurant, ranking China fourth on a list of countries surveyed in the Asia Pacific least accustomed to tipping.

Holt said the more international visitors the merrier, but they ought to be told about American customs.

“Obviously, you want guests (foreign visitors), it’s just that you don’t want to be paying for them to eat at your table,” she said. “On the server side, if you have a $200 check, you still have to give probably $10 or more to your service staff — like your bartender, your buser, your food runner. So you just paid $10 to serve this table for an hour and a half, or however long they had their dinner for.”

She said every international visitor has a reputation when it comes to tipping. Canadians usually tip about 10 percent, she said, while Europeans are commonly low tippers, and in her experience Chinese visitors usually tip a dollar per head at the table.

Americans are an outlier when it comes to tipping. According to travel research site Wanderbat.com, the United States is the only country where a 20 percent tip is commonly expected. Tipping is not customary in China, the site said, and if somebody does tip, it is generally about 5 percent and only for great service.
 

madoka

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Here are the results of the Mastercard tipping survey amongst Asian countries.

WTF Japan! Only 4% tip!

And I'm quite shocked at how high India and Bangladesh are. I assume mostly the rich have credit cards there.

 

MrSquished

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Not only do we need to stop all immigration into this country but we need to start vetting our tourists that want to come here and spend money!

Trump can help us out!
 
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Svnla

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I think it is the culture because when I was in Asia (multiple countries on multiple times), no tip was expected at any of the restaurants (low to high end). You could give extra to the server(s)/staff member(s) but it was not customary as it is in the US.
 
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MrSquished

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I think it is the culture because when I was in Asia (multiple countries on multiple times), no tip was expected at any of the restaurants (low to high end). You could give extra to the server(s)/staff member(s) but it was not customary as it is in the US.

Of course it's the culture. That's why when I travel I read the guide books and the sections on tipping and know how to behave overseas.

But shhhhhhhh immigration bad. Trump GOOD!
 

Fingolfin269

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First time I went to Japan I tried to leave a tip. The lady thought I was forgetting money and chased me down at the door as I was leaving.
 

Svnla

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Of course it's the culture. That's why when I travel I read the guide books and the sections on tipping and know how to behave overseas.

But shhhhhhhh immigration bad. Trump GOOD!

If you want to whine about DT, take it to P+N. For the record, I was, am, and alway will be for LEGAL immigration and not ILLEGAL. Get that to your head and stop the spinning.
 
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MrSquished

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If you want to whine about DT, take it to P+N. For the record, I was, am, and alway will be for LEGAL immigration and not ILLEGAL. Get that to your head and stop the spinning.

I'm in P&N often. I don't need your guide book advice to the AT forums.

For the record we are talking about LEGAL immigrants here as in LEGAL visitors.

Trump is part of the general conversation in regards to foreigners visiting/immigrating here. Start getting with the program fool.
 

Svnla

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I'm in P&N often. I don't need your guide book advice to the AT forums.

For the record we are talking about LEGAL immigrants here as in LEGAL visitors.

Trump is part of the general conversation in regards to foreigners visiting/immigrating here. Start getting with the program fool.

Your first post in this thread was about DT and then you quoted my post about my experience in several countries in Asia and whined about DT again. Not sure what was your problem or who pissed on your cereal but take that stinking bait elsewhere and with someone else.

Now back to regular scheduled programming in OT and not PN.
 

MrSquished

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Your first post in this thread was about DT and then you quoted my post about my experience in several countries in Asia and whined about DT again. Not sure what was your problem or who pissed on your cereal but take that stinking bait elsewhere and with someone else.

Now back to regular scheduled programming in OT and not PN.

Foreigners not acting up to code and Trump go hand in hand. It was a relevant and flippant comment.

Are you already butthurt that he isn't gonna Lock Hillary up?

Sheesh get over it buddy.
 

Svnla

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First time I went to Japan I tried to leave a tip. The lady thought I was forgetting money and chased me down at the door as I was leaving.

Similar experience. When I tried to leave a tip in Asia, my friends and business associates said no tip because the staff members would get their compensation in salaries.

For the record, I think foreign visitors should learn more about US customs before they come here to visit and the same for US visitors to foreign nations.
 
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MrSquished

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Similar experience. When I tried to leave a tip in Asia, my friends and business associates said no tip because the staff members would get their compensation in salaries.

I was in Asia, but the tour guide dealt with the bills. When I was in Morocco & Cyprus we dealt with tips accordingly. When I was in Europe as a youngun, they didn't take tips really.

But we don't care too much about the Europeans and Asians, it's the brown Muslims and Latinos coming to take over the country. Asians, they just want our jobs using visas like H1B and others.

At what point do you stop tipping those strangers?
 

Red Squirrel

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I think it's sad that the tip is basically part of their salary and depended on, the tip should be extra money. ex: they should be able to survive fine without it. Aka they should be paid more.
 
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Newbian

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Tipping threads is where it's always at.

In before random links where a server gets thousands of dollars from a random tipper.
 

trinketsummoner

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I really don't like Vegas because of the "tipping for everything" culture.

I'm from Europe and lived in the US for 8 years. For the record, I do tip, but what annoys me is the whole opaqueness of why people should tip at all. Tipping for great service, yes. Tipping for any service? Why should I?

If tipping is mandatory, then either add it to the cost of the food/room etc. If its optional, then its, er, optional.

If someones wages depend on the tip, why not say that on the check? I even read once that even if the service is bad you should still leave 10%!
 
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