Venice E6 Chips shipping now

[kamranziadar]

Mine is stable, but i did not tried prime, i will try it and let you guys know. But i have a question did you guys reduced your HT also just like i did to 3X from 5X

 

[Dave Sz]

Yeah, of course, otherwise it wouldn't even boot as my htt would be way over 2000 with a 5x and still too high with even 4x. If you haven't primed how can you say it's stable? Just cause XP runs?

 

[cheetoden]

Originally posted by: kamranziadar
Mine is stable, but i did not tried prime, i will try it and let you guys know. But i have a question did you guys reduced your HT also just like i did to 3X from 5X

I sure did. The rule is:HT Frequency: 3x if FSB higher than 250 / 4x if FSB lower than 250

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: kamranziadar
to be honest 50% overclock is the best overclock i have in my life.

:thumbsup:

I've seen higher, but that's pretty good. If you want high percentage overclocks with relatively current technology for a cheap price, play around with mobile Celeron and P4 chips. Not unknown to hit a 100% overclock.

 

[imported_djspe]

I've read elsewhere that the Rev E3 chips overclock better than the E6 chips, but after reading this thread it seems that many have had great luck with E6s. Just curious, the prices of the 3200+ Venice is falling down to less than $140 for OEM. Would this be a waste of money? They look like they are rev E6 (BW)
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=A64-3200BW

Some have said that the 3200's OC better because it's rated higher and has 10x multiplier. Others have said the the 3000 thru 3400 are all cut from the same die, so if they're basically the same, they will all OC to a max of about 2.6, 2.7 Ghz. Thanks. Great info in this thread.

 

[Zap]

A bit simplified, but the gist of it is... All CPUs using the same core and revision are from the same die. Even though they are from the same die, one particular CPU may clock higher than another particular CPU. There may or may not be any "speed grading" done - depends on yields and market demands. If yields are not good and people are snapping up the fastest CPUs as fast as they can make them, then they will speed grade every single CPU. If yields are good, but everyone wants to buy the cheapest model, then they will speed grade enough to fulfill inventory of the faster models, then the remaining will just be marked at whatever speed.

With the 3000+ and 3200+ being within $10 of each other, which one should you get? Well, being that the upper multiplier is locked, to gain really high speeds you will have to depend on your motherboard and RAM to hit those speeds. Most "good" motherboards can hit 300MHz, but what if you are hitting that at default voltage and the CPU seems to have more headroom... wouldn't you wish you had a higher multiplier just "in case" your particular motherboard is maxed out? Well, that's how I feel, and I'd just as soon pay the extra $10 for that insurance. Back when it was an extra $40, well... but at only $10...

 

[kamranziadar]

Originally posted by: Zap
A bit simplified, but the gist of it is... All CPUs using the same core and revision are from the same die. Even though they are from the same die, one particular CPU may clock higher than another particular CPU. There may or may not be any "speed grading" done - depends on yields and market demands. If yields are not good and people are snapping up the fastest CPUs as fast as they can make them, then they will speed grade every single CPU. If yields are good, but everyone wants to buy the cheapest model, then they will speed grade enough to fulfill inventory of the faster models, then the remaining will just be marked at whatever speed.

With the 3000+ and 3200+ being within $10 of each other, which one should you get? Well, being that the upper multiplier is locked, to gain really high speeds you will have to depend on your motherboard and RAM to hit those speeds. Most "good" motherboards can hit 300MHz, but what if you are hitting that at default voltage and the CPU seems to have more headroom... wouldn't you wish you had a higher multiplier just "in case" your particular motherboard is maxed out? Well, that's how I feel, and I'd just as soon pay the extra $10 for that insurance. Back when it was an extra $40, well... but at only $10...

You are right if i had this option when i bought my 3000+ i would definately jumped on 3200+ you have 200mhz for extra $10 and with higher mutiplier it could go upto 3ghz with my system.

 

[Dave Sz]

So my 3200 got here earlier today. It's a 0531EPAW. My new BIOS chip hasn't gotten here yet so I can't test it. I do know that early 051xEPAW chips were awesome and I hope mine is good too. I'm sure that the EPAW has nothing to do with it but a man can dream, right?

 

[Dave Sz]

The POS won't even do a 1M run of Pi at 250x10, I guess it's going on EBAY.

 

[fscussel]

Originally posted by: Dave Sz
The POS won't even do a 1M run of Pi at 250x10, I guess it's going on EBAY.

did you buy it at EWIZ? is it a crap overclocker?

 

[Dave Sz]

yes. ewiz

 

[fscussel]

Originally posted by: Dave Sz
yes. ewiz

and what results are you getting?

 

[Dave Sz]

The ones mentioned above. 250x10 is unstable, can't do Pi, so I'm not even gonna try anything else. My 3000 does 280x9 so there is no reason to keep this one.

 

[fscussel]

Originally posted by: Dave Sz
The ones mentioned above. 250x10 is unstable, can't do Pi, so I'm not even gonna try anything else. My 3000 does 280x9 so there is no reason to keep this one.

humm... is your 3000+ E6 also?? from ewiz??

I think perhaps you should do some tests with a little more voltage in the 3200+, sometimes that's all it needs to overclock good and become stable

 

[cw42]

my 3000 E6 is doing nicely at all stock voltage, read sig. I need to get new RAM, hopefully that could push my OC another 100-200mhz.

 

[aiya24]

my e6 3000+ needed 1.6v to get to 2.6-2.7ghz. the e6 needs more volts than the e3 and i also notice the e6 chips have a lower max temp compared to the e3 chips. my e6 max temp is 56c but my e3 max temp is 59c. the venices max temp vary, use this to find your max temp.

 

[Dave Sz]

Yep, both are E6 from EWIZ. The 3000 does 2.52 at 1.45v, giving it 1.6v doesn't make a difference. The 3200 isn't even stable at 250x10 at 1.6v.

 

[aiya24]

wow seems like the later batches of e6 chips arent good overclockers what stepping do you have Dave Sz? mine's 0530CPFW

 

[fscussel]

man, that's bad... so all the ewiz E6 are not good overclockers, I had a good hope for the 3200+ but now I dont know what to get !

 

[Dave Sz]

my 3000 is a 0530cpfw, the 3200 is a 0531EPAW.

 

[Dave Sz]

I'm about to order a 0516 and a 0518, so I guess it's bye bye to the E6.

 

[Xionide]

I got what I expected out of it. With some tweaking and better ram I think I could get a bit more out of her.

 

[ClockerXP]

Sounds like the E3's are the chips to get? Where can you get an E3 nowadays?

 

[fscussel]

Originally posted by: Dave Sz
I'm about to order a 0516 and a 0518, so I guess it's bye bye to the E6.

where?

 

[Dave Sz]

Someone had a few out on ebay but he didn't sell all of them. So now I'm getting them both for $260.