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user1234

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Originally posted by: stratman
Yeah, results have been dissapointing so far, the exception being Koyanisquatsi, who got 2850mhz at 1.47volts, with prime stable for an hour so far. That's pretty impressive, and something very few winnies did.

So 1/3 has been good so far.

Sorry to the guys who've only gotten to 2.5/2.6, and thanks all three of you for taking time to post your results.


wishful (=wasteful) thinking there bud (=weisner) "squatsi" couldn't even pass 1M SupaPie, so counting his results as good is silly..... Math 101: 0 out of 3 = 0%
 

Zebo

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sad day

But hitting a wall that hard makes me think it's either mem, chipset, or unfixable mem controller you're forgetting. Remember isolate. I know you guys are smart but even I forget basic things sometimes like LDT.
 

TrueWisdom

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My Venice 3000+ will be here Monday, and after I give it some burn-in time I'll start posting results. I'm only using a stock HSF, though, so I may not be the best person for the job. Still, with Arctic Ceramique, I should be able to get 90% of my potential OC, yeah?
 

QSnexus

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Venice 3200+ ordered from Monarch. First AMD system since my Tbird 1.2@1.4. Now to find a heatsink for this bad boy.
 

Dadofamunky

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Originally posted by: QSnexus
Venice 3200+ ordered from Monarch. First AMD system since my Tbird 1.2@1.4. Now to find a heatsink for this bad boy.

That's a fab upgrade though. You'll be thrilled even if you don't push it.
 

thanatos355

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Originally posted by: Dadofamunky
Originally posted by: QSnexus
Venice 3200+ ordered from Monarch. First AMD system since my Tbird 1.2@1.4. Now to find a heatsink for this bad boy.

That's a fab upgrade though. You'll be thrilled even if you don't push it.



lmfao, i went from a 1.4 t-bird to my current rig in my sig. the difference is just crazy. even with the winnie at stock 1.8, the difference was night and day!
 

Painman

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Originally posted by: Zebo
sad day

But hitting a wall that hard makes me think it's either mem, chipset, or unfixable mem controller you're forgetting. Remember isolate. I know you guys are smart but even I forget basic things sometimes like LDT.

I'm trying to test the mem controller now by using 10x multi instead of 11, so far 256 HTT * 10 w/3x LDT is still Priming away for me - around 5 hours now - 11x multi OC attempts were bombing out in the 240s. Mem timings currently 2.5-3-3-7 1T 1:1 with the mobo feeding the DIMMs 2.88 actual, I've validated this RAM up to 265 with these timings and voltage. Chipset has always been happy to do its job while my Winnie was in the socket running on HTT in the high 280s 24/7, I don't really suspect anything there...

Could be that I'm approaching something the wrong way, but the chip's behavior is much like my other 2 A64s when they hit their ceiling... I'm not expecting to find a silver bullet anywhere, but ideas are welcome
 

Koyanisquatsi

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Originally posted by: user1234
Originally posted by: stratman
Yeah, results have been dissapointing so far, the exception being Koyanisquatsi, who got 2850mhz at 1.47volts, with prime stable for an hour so far. That's pretty impressive, and something very few winnies did.

So 1/3 has been good so far.

Sorry to the guys who've only gotten to 2.5/2.6, and thanks all three of you for taking time to post your results.


wishful (=wasteful) thinking there bud (=weisner) "squatsi" couldn't even pass 1M SupaPie, so counting his results as good is silly..... Math 101: 0 out of 3 = 0%

Yeah Prime95 choked on me at that speed. Lowered it to 2.6ghz went to the movies and came back and it was still going after 4 hrs. Right now I'm at 2.7ghz 1.6v. Passed 3Dmark03 and 05. Super PI seems to be working fine now. I don't know what the deal was before. Like I said it was giving errors even at default speeds. I don't know about the other 2 guys but my attempts at this so far have been kind of rushed and chaotic. Zebo's right. Need to slow down, do this right. Use some methodology.

 

Painman

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Originally posted by: Koyanisquatsi
Lol. Same here! Wife fell asleep but I liked it. I thought Marvin was well done.

It's always strange seeing a movie of a book (esp. when you've read that book 4 or 5 times) overall I thought it was a decent rendition with a couple rough spots (the Vogon Poetry bit is better read about than seen, IMO). Arthur, Ford and Trillian were close to my mental pictures, Zaphod and Marvin I imagined so totally differently but I still think they did a good job.

Off Topic? Pshaw. We're discussing things to do while stress testing
 

Jeff7181

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You guys had high expectations. People were saying you should be able to get to 2.8 GHz on air. Well... that might be possible for some people. But as it's pointed out on these forums all the time, all silicon is not created equal. I was hoping for 2.6-2.7. Looks like 2.6 is stable for me... temps may be holding me back, but I'm also running into similar problems that I experienced with my Winchester. 236x11 is what I'm at now... 260x10 is a no POST (even with memory dividers that keep RAM well within specs). Now I've sorta ruled out the CPU as the problem... and other people seem to have an easy time getting HTT to 300 on their Neo2 Platinums... so I'm thinking my RAM is being a biotch... CH-5 chips. Maybe when a paycheck comes in I'll spring for some RAM capable of 250 or 260 MHz.
 

Painman

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Yeah, we did... the samples out there that were seemingly now cherry picked sure didn't help much, I was hoping to see a 260-ish HTT OC with RAM running 1:1. I'll probably still grab a 3200+ and shoot for the same just with less MHz, my 3000+ isn't doing poorly but I'll be running this machine for 2-3 years and I'm not so sure these mobos will run with sky-high HTT over the long haul.

Are you still Priming your OC? I'll still compile results as they come (even though they're a letdown so far) starting tomorrow once I have 12+ Prime hours on my own.
 

QSnexus

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Originally posted by: thanatos355
Originally posted by: Dadofamunky
Originally posted by: QSnexus
Venice 3200+ ordered from Monarch. First AMD system since my Tbird 1.2@1.4. Now to find a heatsink for this bad boy.

That's a fab upgrade though. You'll be thrilled even if you don't push it.



lmfao, i went from a 1.4 t-bird to my current rig in my sig. the difference is just crazy. even with the winnie at stock 1.8, the difference was night and day!

Hehe don't get me wrong I'm not coming from a Tbird @ 1.4. I was just relating what my last AMD based system was. What I'm actually upgrading from now is a P4 2.6C HT @ 3.25ghz with i875 chipset. The only reason for the move is for the pure gaming speed that the AMD64 seems to excell at. Talk of the enhancements in the new Venice core made me cave to the pressure. Fortron Blue Storm 500 24-pin and MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum are ready and waiting for this Venice CPU to arrive.
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: Zebo
arrrr

-xbit got 2.88
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon64-venice_12.html

-PC Perspective got 2.8 on default core
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=127

-Legit reviews got 2.8 on default core
http://forums.legitreviews.com/viewtopic.php?t=1694


That's 3/3!!!!

These MF's should be hitting 3Ghz with some cooling and voltz:|

Do you think AMD would send average processors out to be reviewed by sites who they KNOW will test overclocking capabilities? Fvck no... they'll hand pick the best ones.
 

Painman

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Oh I relise I'm just upset for you guys.

More forums stuff (all air)

2800 on defaults OPB
http://www.ocxtreme.org/onepagebook/v3500p/3500pair02.jpg


more on this page
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59405&page=3&pp=60

Frankly I don't know how much stock I am willing to put into reports from some of the other boards. What do these guys really call stable? One guy there at XS apparently can't be bothered to run Prime on his sys for even 8 hours. Geez, it's not a bother at all, it runs on otherwise idle CPU cycles for cryin' out loud. I've stuck with the AT OC community all the time that I have because there are long established standards around here, and the spirit is more cooperative than competitive. I'm not trying to pigeonhole all non-AT Venice OCs as BS, but I'll be willing to lend more credibility outside of this community once I see some established, trusted AT folks duplicate these results
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: Painman
Originally posted by: Zebo
Oh I relise I'm just upset for you guys.

More forums stuff (all air)

2800 on defaults OPB
http://www.ocxtreme.org/onepagebook/v3500p/3500pair02.jpg


more on this page
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59405&page=3&pp=60

Frankly I don't know how much stock I am willing to put into reports from some of the other boards. What do these guys really call stable? One guy there at XS apparently can't be bothered to run Prime on his sys for even 8 hours. Geez, it's not a bother at all, it runs on otherwise idle CPU cycles for cryin' out loud. I've stuck with the AT OC community all the time that I have because there are long established standards around here, and the spirit is more cooperative than competitive. I'm not trying to pigeonhole all non-AT Venice OCs as BS, but I'll be willing to lend more credibility outside of this community once I see some established, trusted AT folks duplicate these results

Those steppings are all different from mine too... mine is CBBLE... a couple of those are ABBLE... I wonder if that's the difference.
 

Zebo

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LOL- Jeff you know AMD is milking us too. What is it now 4-6 chips A64 users got hyped about. Got that feel to upgrade. First claws 754's, claw mobiles 754's, 939 dual channel chips, cool fast winchester 939's, now venice/SD 939's... So when's rev F, fall?



pain-
Absolutly I agree. But even posting at those speeds w/ default core in a decent acomplishment would'nt you say? Now this does'nt mean it's average... does'nt mean the "lucky chip lotto" losers are posting. I just put it up for y'all to see what others are up to. take it for what it's worth (you did).. It's way too few sampling to say either way right now ti judge if Venice is hype. Only 2/3 in this thread got underachivers.

 

Painman

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Those steppings are all different from mine too... mine is CBBLE... a couple of those are ABBLE... I wonder if that's the difference.

Possibly that, and a lot of these guys have week 4 silicon... must all be pre-production... I was under the impression that AMD had possibly switched some of the fabs over to Venice production that far back in preparation for the launch, since a lot of the 3500+ parts on the street in the last several weeks have been castrated Clawhammer (FX) cores rather than Winchesters. The 3 chips here are week 12 * 2 and week 15 * 1.
 

Jeff7181

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I wish I knew more people locally who had Venice chips so we could swap and see if the chips clock the same in different systems.
 
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