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NINaudio

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Ok, I'm done trying anything else with this chip, going to leave it like this for now:

-=General Info=-
CPU Model Number: ADA3500DAA4BP
CPU Code: LBBLE 0513FPAW

-=System Info=-
Motherboard: MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
BIOS Revision: 1.8 mod
Memory: corsair pc4400c25 (2x512) @ 250 2.5-3-3-10
PSU: Ultra 500w X-connect
Cooling Type, Brand, Model: Danger Den water cooling, TDX

-=Results=-
Max OC w/ 1M Super PI results: 2750mhz - 30 Seconds
HTT and Multiplier Used: 250 x 11

-=Stable OC Info=-
Max Stable OC: 2750 mhz
Prime95 SFFTs: (prelim, I stopped it at 1hr, 20 min.)
Prime95 LFFTs: 6+hrs (still running now)
HTT and Multiplier Used: 250 x 11
Actual VCore: 1.61V
CPU Temp Under Load: 44C
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: NINaudio
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: NINaudio
Well, it's hard to really find what my results will be as this isn't an official bios release. I would like to wait for that to come out to make a final decision.

Let me ask you guys a question. I'm trying to run LFFT's now and I keep getting an "Illegal Sumout Error", ever seen that before?

more info on this would be great

i get this when i go over 2.2ghz with my 2000+ t-bred, but no other stability problems noticeable

good luck everyone with those venice cores

what do people get out of the fx-55s on air these days? (they are clawhammers right?, and sledgehammer was the s940 fx-51? )

Cheers

Turns out that at least in my case it was an issue of not having enough vcore. I bumped it up to 1.61v and so far so good at 2750, been running Prime for about 6 hours so far, gonna let it run all day and see what it does. I will be updated my OP in a minute as well.



What is 1.61v actual for you?? 1.5v set and 10% over vid?? or 1.55v set and 8.3% overvid???
 

Koyanisquatsi

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OK I'm done testing with mine at least until Abit releases bios support. My board definitely has issues with the new memory controller. I get errors in Super PI even at default settings unless I run 2T command rate.

-=General Info=-
CPU Model Number: ADA3500DAA4BP
CPU Code: LBBLE 0515FPAW

-=System Info=-
Motherboard: Abit AV8 Third Eye
BIOS Revision: 1.9
Memory: 2 X 512 Crucial Ballistix PC 4000
PSU: Ultra X-Connect 500w
Cooling Type, Brand, Model: Air, Thermaltake K8 Silent Boost

-=Default Vcore=-
Max OC w/ 1M Super PI results: 2398mhz - 32 Seconds
HTT and Multiplier Used: 218 x 11

-=Stable OC Info=-
Max Stable OC: 2805mhz
Prime95 SFFTs: 9:30 Time
Prime95 LFFTs: 5:45 Time
HTT and Multiplier Used: 255 x 11
Actual VCore: 1.67V
CPU Temp in BIOS (Idle): 45C
CPU Temp in OS (Idle):33C
CPU Temp Under Load: 68C
+12V Reading (Idle): XX.XXV
+12V Reading (Load):XX.XXV

I'm probably gonna run it everyday @ 2.6ghz which I can do stable @ 1.47volts. My max OC is just way too hot for my liking. I can do 2.7ghz stable @ 1.6volts but that gives me a load temp of 60c. Not sure if that's safe or not.
 

NINaudio

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Duvie, I run 1.45v + 10% and that ends up reading as 1.61 in MBM and 1.65 in CPU-Z, it doesn't make any sense to me, but that's what I'm getting.....
 

Duvie

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Yours makes more sense then most...

1.45 x 1.1 = 1.595v...under load most of the mSI boards up .01-.02v....

Mine at 1.5v set with no overvid reads 1.43-1.44v in everything....So i run 1.5v w/ 8.3% = 1.625v but I only ge 1.568v idle and 1.58v load...
 

Avalon

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For those who were brave enough to order the 3000+ and a DFI NF4 board, your processor will ship this monday. If you look, Monarch has the OEM 3000+ in stock. I'm going to have to order myself a lowly PCI-e card so that I can at least get the system up and running when I receive all my parts Tuesday. My last day of finals is this Monday, so I'll have plenty of free time. I'm so excited!
 

Hyperlite

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2T! 2T!
just try it, can't hurt...everyone that has reported trying 2T so far has hit 2.8.
 

Avalon

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Originally posted by: Hyperlite
2T! 2T!
just try it, can't hurt...everyone that has reported trying 2T so far has hit 2.8.

Yes, I agree. Fire up those systems with 2T command rate. At worst, you'll lose 1-3% performance in your applications. But, you could gain a couple hundred mhz, which would more than negate that (assuming that 2T was the reason why some could overclock higher).
 

user1234

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I think 2T would would lower performance a lot more then 1-3%, more like 5-10% or even more, I don't remeber the exact numbers as ususally no one chooses 2T as 1T is almost always faster (even if speed is lower). But if you can get 200 mhz more then it might outweigh the 2T slowdown, but it will be close.
 

Jeff7181

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2T makes no difference for me... I still seem to be limited to less than 240 MHz HTT.
 

user1234

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wow...I am stunned ! I mean this thread is a good idea but HORRIBLE execution. This template is just awful, seemingly conatining so much information, but most of it irrelevant and leaving out the most important info. Like memory speed and timings are not even in the stupid template, you have to go hunt for it in the comments if you're lucky. I thought the template was supposed to make it easy for everyone to see exactly what others are getting, and not show a partial and confusing picture which leaves more questions unanswered that what answered ones. This is the result if incompetency and illogical thinking. Like when you include the production series as the first thing (the so called stepping)... who even cares at this point ? first most people will have the same code, and second it would require a lot more deep analysis to start theorizing about the overclocking of different codes.

I suggest everyone post their cpu model (e.g. 3000+) followed by FSBxCPU multiplier=CPU speed @Vcore (e.g. 300x9=2700 @1.6V) followed by the memory speed, divider and latencies (e.g. RAM 220 mhz (2/3) @2-2-2-5-1T) . Do this in the FIRST LINE of whatever template you're using. Later you can add all the rest of the mumbo jumbo like which mobo you're using, and the CPU production code, etc. In the comments you can add some more perosnal experiences like "my cpu can POST at 3000 mhz but the it BSODs" or "I can run prime but not superPie" or whatever other crap you feel like sharing.
 

Dadofamunky

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Originally posted by: user1234
wow...I am stunned ! I mean this thread is a good idea but HORRIBLE execution. This template is just awful, seemingly conatining so much information, but most of it irrelevant and leaving out the most important info. Like memory speed and timings are not even in the stupid template, you have to go hunt for it in the comments if you're lucky. I thought the template was supposed to make it easy for everyone to see exactly what others are getting, and not show a partial and confusing picture which leaves more questions unanswered that what answered ones. This is the result if incompetency and illogical thinking. Like when you include the production series as the first thing (the so called stepping)... who even cares at this point ? first most people will have the same code, and second it would require a lot more deep analysis to start theorizing about the overclocking of different codes.

I suggest everyone post their cpu model (e.g. 3000+) followed by FSBxCPU multiplier=CPU speed @Vcore (e.g. 300x9=2700 @1.6V) followed by the memory speed, divider and latencies (e.g. RAM 220 mhz (2/3) @2-2-2-5-1T) . Do this in the FIRST LINE of whatever template you're using. Later you can add all the rest of the mumbo jumbo like which mobo you're using, and the CPU production code, etc. In the comments you can add some more perosnal experiences like "my cpu can POST at 3000 mhz but the it BSODs" or "I can run prime but not superPie" or whatever other crap you feel like sharing.

I don't think 1T vs. 2T means anywhere near as much as you're stating, now that I've played around with it.....

As for your other points, I agree. I think the more information the better. A good sampling requires a large record set and each record needs to be very broad.
 

user1234

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Ok, how about a single line that looks like this:

CPU/Mobo FSBxMult=Speed @Vcore Mem speed (divider) latency Vdimm

for example my winchester info:
3000+/A8N-SLI 267x9=2400 @1.58V mem 220 (5/6) 2.5-3-3-7-1T @2.7V
 

NINaudio

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Hmmm....that whole 1t/2t thread has me thinking now......great, just what I needed, another excuse to play with the system.....
 

dhoytw

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Originally posted by: NINaudio
Hmmm....that whole 1t/2t thread has me thinking now......great, just what I needed, another excuse to play with the system.....


LOL....I am at 2.92 with 2T
 

GuitarDaddy

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Originally posted by: dhoytw
Originally posted by: NINaudio
Hmmm....that whole 1t/2t thread has me thinking now......great, just what I needed, another excuse to play with the system.....


LOL....I am at 2.92 with 2T


Yes but you have the "Solution" and the "Crystals" in the box. Did you find how long?
 

dhoytw

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Originally posted by: dhoytw
Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Originally posted by: NINaudio
How about some more details?

Here are all the details you need about dhoytw
The infamous "My PC is cold with solution" thread


Yeah....but it was good for some laughs.

The insane thing is that the thread is still up and running....and has over 230 posts....that alone is pretty funny considering the insanity of the original post....lol

Oh....and the 2.92 thing....it wasn't stable at that at all....it wasn't mine either was messing with my buddies machine. I am anxiously awaiting the San Diego's.

Here is a nice treat for everyone too......i think it will be refreshing for anyone sweating over how to get that extra 100mhz out of their new Venice Cores.
Yummy....LEMON
 

Duvie

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What I found interesting was a review at legit reviews.com had a guy who hit a wall until he swapped out his forton 520 for an OCZ 620....got about anopther 100mhz.....I have to assuem that has more to do with clean power as rumor has it the power consumption is mu ch lower with the venice versus newcastles....Maybe the amps are the key here....

PPL please list you power supplies and their 12v rail rating if you can......

The main thing I am seeing is many falling short of 3ghz with air....Seems water can just get it there which means not that much better then the FX55 was with the 130nm process....


I wonder if the clawhammer (san diego cores) will do better being they must be the line to produce the FX57's.....3700+ may be for me....Does anyone know if they will produce a 3500+ SD chip???
 
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