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housecat

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Ooops.. user1234 I entered part of my Winchesters info. My bad.
I had both my winchester and venice info written on the same piece of paper right next to each other.

I already had a screenie upload lol
link to proof!

I'm editing now.. good eye!

ps. you really know your cpu core revisions man.. :beer:
 

Avalon

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wishful (=wasteful) thinking there bud (=weisner) "squatsi" couldn't even pass 1M SupaPie, so counting his results as good is silly..... Math 101: 0 out of 3 = 0%

Hmm, that doesn't look like Venice results to me...

don't forget that when winchester came out anandtech had an article reviewing both a 3000+ and a 3500+ and when they tried to overclock them they both hit the same max of 2610 mhz. Surprise surprise. The reviewer concluded that most winchesters should be able to achieve 2.6 without problem, not even mentioning the more likely option that he got hand picked chips. Now tell me how many winchesters could really reach 2.6 ? (me thinks it's a small percentage, definitely not the majority of them).

There was a poll taken back when Winchesters were only a couple months old, and a large percentage of them were getting between 2.4-2.7ghz. Oh, by the way, that paragraph doesn't look like overclocking results to me.

these are not great initial results, but still better then winchester, which I think on average do no more than 2.5, so maybe venice can do 100-200 or so better. not too bad really

Congratulations, Captain Obvious. Again, I see no overclocking results from you.

I think 2T would would lower performance a lot more then 1-3%, more like 5-10% or even more, I don't remeber the exact numbers as ususally no one chooses 2T as 1T is almost always faster (even if speed is lower). But if you can get 200 mhz more then it might outweigh the 2T slowdown, but it will be close.

2T performance in games take about a 0-3% hit, with winrar file compression being close to 7% (and that's an extreme case, aside from synthetics). With 200mhz more at a 2T setting, you'd have no problem eclipsing 1T performance, although it wouldn't be by more than a couple percent. Anyway, I again see no results from you here.

Looks like there's more than one good example. I'll have my results up shortly, if you don't like my "blabber". Hey, this is a discussion board, but apparently it became your call somewhere along the line.

:roll:
 

user1234

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I was just expressing a collective frustration that after 200 posts and almost a week after the Venice has been avaialble we only got a grant total of like 4 results.......but at least now it seems to be picking up.....keep it coming people
 

user1234

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Originally posted by: housecat
Ooops.. user1234 I entered part of my Winchesters info. My bad.
I had both my winchester and venice info written on the same piece of paper right next to each other.

I already had a screenie upload lol
link to proof!

I'm editing now.. good eye!

ps. you really know your cpu core revisions man.. :beer:


btw, did you verify stability of your higher overclocking results (the 2.6-2.8 you posted earlier) ?
 

brentpresley

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Guys, I'm going to update my initial results.

I swapped out the Corsair XMS with some OCZ Gold EL VX and the system is much happier now.

My new memory settings are:
OCZ Gold EL VX running at 255MHz @ 1.5 2 2 8

I also went over to DFI-STREET.com and read through the stickies. If you have a DFI board I highly recommend that site. The mods there are actual DFI tech paid to help users on the site. After some BIOS tweaks I found there I'm much more stable and (with the new memory and FSB settings) knocked almost a minute off my 32M Super Pi score..

My PSU is a little weak at the moment (400W) and most of the readings are undervolting by pretty significant margins right now. I've got a 600W Seasonic on order and will post back when it gets in and I get a chance to install it. Hopefully it will give me a little bit more headroom.


Originally posted by: brentpresley
Gotta toss my hat into the ring here.

-=General Info=-
CPU Model Number: ADA3500DAA4BP
CPU Code: CBBLE 0512DPAW
CPU Serial Number: forgot to write it down :-(

-=System Info=-
Motherboard: DFI NF4 Ultra-D rev-AA02
Memory: Corsiar XMS 3200C2-PT @ 215.8mhz 2.0 3 3 7
PS: Seasonic Super Tornado 400W

-=Stable OC Info=-
Max Stable OC: 2805mhz
Prime95 LFFTs: haven't run yet, still pushing up the speed
Prime95 SFFTs: XX:XX Time
CPU Temp Under Load: 43C

-=Default Vcore=-
Max OC w/ 1M Super PI results: 2805mhz - 31 Seconds

I've really pushed the Vcore up on this chip (1.60V). It hit a bit of a glass ceiling at about 2.4-2.5GHz that I couldn't get through until i pushed the Vcore up significantly.

Currently I'm using the Super PI 32M test to give me an idea of stability. I'll run Prime95 after I get a good idea what the ceiling is on this chip.

Screen capture can be found here.

 

RichUK

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Originally posted by: brentpresley
Guys, I'm going to update my initial results.

I swapped out the Corsair XMS with some OCZ Gold EL VX and the system is much happier now.

My new memory settings are:
OCZ Gold EL VX running at 255MHz @ 1.5 2 2 8

I also went over to DFI-STREET.com and read through the stickies. If you have a DFI board I highly recommend that site. The mods there are actual DFI tech paid to help users on the site. After some BIOS tweaks I found there I'm much more stable and (with the new memory and FSB settings) knocked almost a minute off my 32M Super Pi score..

My PSU is a little weak at the moment (400W) and most of the readings are undervolting by pretty significant margins right now. I've got a 600W Seasonic on order and will post back when it gets in and I get a chance to install it. Hopefully it will give me a little bit more headroom.


Originally posted by: brentpresley
Gotta toss my hat into the ring here.

-=General Info=-
CPU Model Number: ADA3500DAA4BP
CPU Code: CBBLE 0512DPAW
CPU Serial Number: forgot to write it down :-(

-=System Info=-
Motherboard: DFI NF4 Ultra-D rev-AA02
Memory: Corsiar XMS 3200C2-PT @ 215.8mhz 2.0 3 3 7
PS: Seasonic Super Tornado 400W

-=Stable OC Info=-
Max Stable OC: 2805mhz
Prime95 LFFTs: haven't run yet, still pushing up the speed
Prime95 SFFTs: XX:XX Time
CPU Temp Under Load: 43C

-=Default Vcore=-
Max OC w/ 1M Super PI results: 2805mhz - 31 Seconds

I've really pushed the Vcore up on this chip (1.60V). It hit a bit of a glass ceiling at about 2.4-2.5GHz that I couldn't get through until i pushed the Vcore up significantly.

Currently I'm using the Super PI 32M test to give me an idea of stability. I'll run Prime95 after I get a good idea what the ceiling is on this chip.

Screen capture can be found here.


You've got CAS 1.5 at 255HTT :shocked: ... i highly doubt that .. screenie please

 

brentpresley

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Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: brentpresley
Guys, I'm going to update my initial results.

I swapped out the Corsair XMS with some OCZ Gold EL VX and the system is much happier now.

My new memory settings are:
OCZ Gold EL VX running at 255MHz @ 1.5 2 2 8

I also went over to DFI-STREET.com and read through the stickies. If you have a DFI board I highly recommend that site. The mods there are actual DFI tech paid to help users on the site. After some BIOS tweaks I found there I'm much more stable and (with the new memory and FSB settings) knocked almost a minute off my 32M Super Pi score..

My PSU is a little weak at the moment (400W) and most of the readings are undervolting by pretty significant margins right now. I've got a 600W Seasonic on order and will post back when it gets in and I get a chance to install it. Hopefully it will give me a little bit more headroom.


Originally posted by: brentpresley
Gotta toss my hat into the ring here.

-=General Info=-
CPU Model Number: ADA3500DAA4BP
CPU Code: CBBLE 0512DPAW
CPU Serial Number: forgot to write it down :-(

-=System Info=-
Motherboard: DFI NF4 Ultra-D rev-AA02
Memory: Corsiar XMS 3200C2-PT @ 215.8mhz 2.0 3 3 7
PS: Seasonic Super Tornado 400W

-=Stable OC Info=-
Max Stable OC: 2805mhz
Prime95 LFFTs: haven't run yet, still pushing up the speed
Prime95 SFFTs: XX:XX Time
CPU Temp Under Load: 43C

-=Default Vcore=-
Max OC w/ 1M Super PI results: 2805mhz - 31 Seconds

I've really pushed the Vcore up on this chip (1.60V). It hit a bit of a glass ceiling at about 2.4-2.5GHz that I couldn't get through until i pushed the Vcore up significantly.

Currently I'm using the Super PI 32M test to give me an idea of stability. I'll run Prime95 after I get a good idea what the ceiling is on this chip.

Screen capture can be found here.


You've got CAS 1.5 at 255HTT :shocked: ... i highly doubt that .. screenie please


The screen capture IS in the post. Just click on it, or go here:

SEEING IS BELIEVING.
 

RichUK

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ok fairpley .. those are pretty damn good timings fairplay .. i withdraw my doubts .. can i ask what volts you are using?
 

brentpresley

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CPU: 1.475V + 113%
LDT/HTT: 1.40V
RAM: 3.2V
Southbridge: 1.7V

As you can see from the screenshot, my PSU is undervolting a bit from all of those settings, so hopefully I'll be able to crank things up a bit more and still be stable when the new PSU comes in.

If you want RAM that has a good shot at doing Cas1.5 in the 250 range I would highly recommend the OCZ Gold EL VX PC4000. It's a bit expensive, but worth it. I've run across a lot of people that are able to get either very low CAS out of it or VERY high clock (almost as good as the legendary BH-5 chips).

Cheers.
 

rise

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Originally posted by: brentpresley
CPU: 1.475V + 113%
LDT/HTT: 1.40V
RAM: 3.2V
Southbridge: 1.7V

As you can see from the screenshot, my PSU is undervolting a bit from all of those settings, so hopefully I'll be able to crank things up a bit more and still be stable when the new PSU comes in.

If you want RAM that has a good shot at doing Cas1.5 in the 250 range I would highly recommend the OCZ Gold EL VX PC4000. It's a bit expensive, but worth it. I've run across a lot of people that are able to get either very low CAS out of it or VERY high clock (almost as good as the legendary BH-5 chips).

Cheers.

yeah, i've been reading alot of the posts at dfi.street with results on that gold vx. incredible stuff.

 

Thor86

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Originally posted by: housecat
K i got some results for everyone.

ADA3200DAA4BP
LBBLE 0516EPGW
Z639006D50408

Default volts (1.36vcore)- 2.6ghz (if you put my results in the OP, use these plz)
1.55vcore- 2.6
1.67vcore- 2.8 (if you put my results in the OP, use these plz)
1.72vcore- 2.8
Did not want to try higher voltages than 1.72v. Usually chips top out after a certain voltage, 1.7 is a good place to stop from the results I've seen.. but I certainly could pull over 2.8 with more voltage.
I do 5mhz fsb bumps so thats as close as it gets. No 1mhz bumps here. I go 160fsb, to 165fsb ect. to get my maximum overclock. Sorry.
Used the lowest divider in any results above 250fsb to take the memory completely out of the equation.


On temps, I must say IMPRESSIVE. At 1.72vcore I was idling at 42C. On the Winchester 3200+@1.7vcore I idled at 55c.

I dont know how much of this is attributable to the Venice core, or the Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 cpu cooler. But nice improvement either way.

I am running this at 250mhz fsb, x10 multi, 4x HT (1000HTT), 1.36vcore, 2.9mem volt.
I'll likely run benchmarks at 2.8ghz, but this low voltage and easy to run 2.5ghz daily.. I might go to 2.8ghz daily.. we'll see

I never messed with chipset voltage or the other settings when doing the overclocking.

WAY better compared to my Winchester.. very similar results to the early Winchesters.. but with better temps and SSE3. Nice! :thumbsup:


Those are great numbers, but what are you using to stability tests?
 

housecat

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Hah.
Go buy your own damn Venice then, I'm not answering to everyone because they dont like the results.
Tho, my results were verified in about an hr (or longer) of WoW at each setting. Thats my realworld testing.
Didnt run others cuz i have nothing else installed on the machine. Dont know if it was 1 second from a blue screen or not.. but worked for me in real world gaming.

They are either very close to being prime-stable, or are prime stable. At least thats my experience with gaming and overclocking results.
Basically if those results are not prime stable (which I dont know), up the voltage a tad and I guarantee you it will be.
Its perty close tho. As close as you are going to get out of me.

It should be enough (along with the others results) to tell if you if you want a Venice or not.. and isnt that the point?

I'll run Prime on the settings I'm using now, what do you guys use, the Benchmark or the Torture test? And if TT, what one?
 

user1234

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I agree that since you could reach 2.8 and run wow for 1 hour than your are most likely prime stabe at 2.5. But if you've had more experience in overclocking you'll know that prime could fail after a few hours even when many apps seem to run fine. running Wow is far from a serious stress test, not even close to what some other games (like COD) do. In fact, it might be one of the most lightest workload (even for the GPU btw). So the fact that you had to increase the Vcore so much just to do that, probably means the real limit of full stability is much lower, probably 2.65-2.7. still not too bad
 

housecat

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Increase the vcore so much?
I dont know if even 1.7vcore is "so much", thats like a what, 20% increase?
The temps didnt indicate it was overheating

You can hedge your bets for a failure all you want, but I'll have it prime stable at 2.8ghz.
2.8@1.65v leaves alot of room for volt increases to get that stability if its not totally.
And even 1.7v was not hot (read original post).

i wish i'd never participated in this stupid thread. go get your own fking venice chips dickhead. instead of critiquing if mine is prime stable at some voltage and freq.
 

housecat

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guess I'm going to have to run her at 2.8, do a prime test and throw it in your f'n faces.
it will prime@2.8, so keep hoping otherwise everyone.
 

ericlala

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^please work

can u post info after? like if you are stock voltage etc. maybe a cpu-z screeny?
 

housecat

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sure, i can do cpuz and prime.. i just got prime on this machine.

what prime test? torture mix? is that what everyone uses? and for how long.. i think it says it loops?

if there is a quicker and easier way (so i can still use my PC moderatly) I'd love to know. maybe something i can run while getting decent playablility in WoW LOL

anyway i'll wait for response.. gotta go for my jog

I'M ONLY DOING 2.8GHZ PRIME THO. I'm NOT dinking around with the lower settings, thank you.

and im only doing this because i would like to run 2.8 daily, and want to see what that requires
 

housecat

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Originally posted by: supaflyz
Originally posted by: ericlala
anyone getting a stable 2.8ghz with a 3200 venice like in the review?

Check This Out. Seems like the LBBLE chips are pretty good OC'ers

ROFL!

There are results there exactly like mine, on air like mine.. with similar voltages (in close range to mine) that are prime stable.. so why does everyone feel the need to call my results out as abnormal or bad? Jealous?
Whats the problem

Anyway, I'll let the thread know my results.
 
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