Venice OCing thread!

[govtcheez75]

I just got my 3200+. LBBLE 0516EPGW. Not yet installed. I'm crossing my fingers!

 

[housecat]

ascii art didnt work out

 

[Frown66]

quote:
Originally posted by: ericlala
anyone getting a stable 2.8ghz with a 3200 venice like in the review?



Check This Out. Seems like the LBBLE chips are pretty good OC'ers

Man, these guys must have their +2 overclocking skillhat on. I'll have to retinker with my cpu. I'm amazed at the speeds they are getting at default vcore! Hope is still alive! (Not that I'm disappointed with I have in my cpu right now)

 

[user1234]

Originally posted by: housecat

Originally posted by: supaflyz

Originally posted by: ericlala
anyone getting a stable 2.8ghz with a 3200 venice like in the review?

Check This Out. Seems like the LBBLE chips are pretty good OC'ers

ROFL!

There are results there exactly like mine, on air like mine.. with similar voltages (in close range to mine) that are prime stable.. so why does everyone feel the need to call my results out as abnormal or bad? Jealous?
Whats the problem

Anyway, I'll let the thread know my results.

no one called your results abnormal or bad, they just asked you how you verify stability. In overclocking many people try to first find the max point where the system can no longer even boot, then find the point where they could boot windows but not being able to even run superpie without crashing. Then gradually lower the speed until they find the point where it is stable. Usually there is a 100-200 mhz difference between these points.

Since you said 2800 was your max, I was assuming you also tried 2850 and failed to even boot. Therefore it is likely that the 100% stable speed is around 2700 or less.

 

[housecat]

As I stated, I dotn go any smaller than 5mhz fsb jumps. So I either went from 280 to 285, or tried 290. I dont remember.

But I'm sure theres enough room above 1.65v (what I got 2.8 to work on), and more room beyond 2.8ghz, as I dont go in 1mhz fsb jumps. There is bound to be room, unless I got extremely lucky and hit the roof right on 2.8.. doubt it.

That and I am doing little to no tweaking of any other options or voltages. So I'd say I have plenty of room. If 2.8ghz is even the real ceiling.. its a relatively quick job to get you guys some numbers to decide whether or not Venice is worth it to you or not.
I'm not going to bend over backwards, and if you dont want to recognize the results thats your progative.

But 2.8ghz can be had on this chip very easily, with little to no tweaks beyond a 1.65vcore.
Made me pretty happy. But if you do not want to buy or partake in a Venice due to this bad news, be your own man.

 

[user1234]

Originally posted by: Snowice
sorry, i can't resist..... how old are you housecat?

sorry, I can't resist..... he's 13

 

[housecat]

actually im 12.

but im a 12yr old that can kick your ass. sorry, i could not resist.

 

[ericlala]

i dont care how old he is, as long as he can tell me he is getting 2.8 stable then i am a happy camper

 

[housecat]

Originally posted by: ericlala
i dont care how old he is, as long as he can tell me he is getting 2.8 stable then i am a happy camper

that was my line of thought also.

but some people really are 13 years old here, and enough of a little bitch to take a thread off topic even more.. even when complaining about "too much banter".. :disgust:
that goes for both the little bitches here, the hypocrite and the one who asked my age.

 

[cpush]

guy's chill back. so the question is are these venice's nice, should I get the retail, and where should I get it from?

 

[hippotautamus]

ahahahha Housecat has 1337 posts

Sorry for thread crapping, but that is hilarious

 

[ericlala]

For those who are OCed to 2.8ghz+ on a 3200, what kind of temperature are you getting idle and under load? think I would need to get a hardcore heatsink like xp-90 with a nexus 92? can the stock HS handle the OC?

 

[mendellj]

I'm in the process of upgrading from an asus a7m266, xp1800+ to an A64 3500+

Though not a 3200, I've overclocked a 3500 to 2.75 so far @ 1.58 volts, prime95 stable, on a Neo2 Plat. Idle temp is 41, load is 52. Using an XP-90 hs with a slow 80mm fan. I don't know what temps I had for my stock hs, but it was too loud for my liking.

I used the thermal grease that came with the xp-90. do you think that AS5 would make that much of a difference in my load temp?

 

[ericlala]

2.58 volts?!??
i thought max was somewhere around 1.85

 

[user1234]

Originally posted by: ericlala
i dont care how old he is, as long as he can tell me he is getting 2.8 stable then i am a happy camper

he never did confirm the stability on 2.8.....I guess that's a bad sign

 

[Elfear]

-=General Info=-
CPU Model Number: ADA3200DAA4BP
CPU Code: LBBLE 0516EPGW
CPU Serial Number:

-=System Info=-
Motherboard: DFI SLI-D 414-3 bios
Memory: Patriot XBLK@200MHz (2x512MB) 2.5-3-3-6
PS: OCZ 520W Powerstream

Well, pretty dismal results here. I got a 3200+ Venice last night and played around with it for a few hours. I tried default volts at 2.4GHz but was a no go. Upped the volts from there to 1.48V and got it SuperPi stable (I know, not really stable but i didn't have a lot of time) at 2.5GHz. It seems to top out about 2.5GHz. I tried 2.6GHz at 1.66V and a whole slew of different timings and it wasn't even close to stable.

I threw the same chip into an MSI K8T Neo2 mobo with one stick of Mushkin L2 V2 ram and it wouldn't pass SuperPI 8M at 2.35GHz and 1.48V. The board is less forgiving than my DFI but it's weird it still requires so much voltage (more than default seems like a lot to me at this speed) to even pass at ~2.3GHz. My Winny pummels this thing. I'll post more results when I've had more time to mess with it but I really doubt I'm going to get much higher than I have.

 

[Frown66]

Elfear - I've got a bit of a dumb suggestion, so if you already know/done it, just completely ignore my reply. But one thing I didn't do initially was connect the 5v 4pin (I believe thats what it was) near the middle of the DFI board. (I was in a bit of a hurry setting it up. I'm still not positive if its required)I was able to run stock and nothing else. Small overclocks didn't even work. Once I plugged it in, I got to 2.5 at stock voltage. Mine's an LBBLE chip as well.

Either that, or the DFI just hates Patriot ram.

 

[user1234]

Originally posted by: Frown66
Elfear - I've got a bit of a dumb suggestion, so if you already know/done it, just completely ignore my reply. But one thing I didn't do initially was connect the 5v 4pin (I believe thats what it was) near the middle of the DFI board. (I was in a bit of a hurry setting it up. I'm still not positive if its required)I was able to run stock and nothing else. Small overclocks didn't even work. Once I plugged it in, I got to 2.5 at stock voltage. Mine's an LBBLE chip as well.

Either that, or the DFI just hates Patriot ram.

Frown, last I remeber your LBBLE was doing 10x270 @1.61Vcore and mem at 193 2.5-3-3-8, but you said it failed after 4 hours of prime, yet you sure you could get it stable. Did you manage to get it stable (that is prime > 12 hours) and what was the final speeds and voltages ? btw although I dont own the DFI mobo I think you're doing everyting right as far as a general A64 overclocking techniques.

 

[user1234]

Originally posted by: Elfear
-=General Info=-
CPU Model Number: ADA3200DAA4BP
CPU Code: LBBLE 0516EPGW
CPU Serial Number:

-=System Info=-
Motherboard: DFI SLI-D 414-3 bios
Memory: Patriot XBLK@200MHz (2x512MB) 2.5-3-3-6
PS: OCZ 520W Powerstream

Well, pretty dismal results here. I got a 3200+ Venice last night and played around with it for a few hours. I tried default volts at 2.4GHz but was a no go. Upped the volts from there to 1.48V and got it SuperPi stable (I know, not really stable but i didn't have a lot of time) at 2.5GHz. It seems to top out about 2.5GHz. I tried 2.6GHz at 1.66V and a whole slew of different timings and it wasn't even close to stable.

I threw the same chip into an MSI K8T Neo2 mobo with one stick of Mushkin L2 V2 ram and it wouldn't pass SuperPI 8M at 2.35GHz and 1.48V. The board is less forgiving than my DFI but it's weird it still requires so much voltage (more than default seems like a lot to me at this speed) to even pass at ~2.3GHz. My Winny pummels this thing. I'll post more results when I've had more time to mess with it but I really doubt I'm going to get much higher than I have.

Not sure what you mean by 200 mhz for the RAM but you need to use a divider in the bios so the RAM is excluded as a limiting factor for overclocking. Do what frown did and choose the "150" setting for the RAM and check what cpu-z is showing as its speed. Also make sure to choose HTT 3X. And don't even bother with the VIA chipset - it is not a very good choice for overclocking, and it is likely the limiting factor in this case.

 

[ericlala]

Is anyone OCing the venice(or other cores) with an A8N-E? what kind of voltage and bus speed can it provide/handle?

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: user1234

Not sure what you mean by 200 mhz for the RAM but you need to use a divider in the bios so the RAM is excluded as a limiting factor for overclocking. Do what frown did and choose the "150" setting for the RAM and check what cpu-z is showing as its speed. Also make sure to choose HTT 3X. And don't even bother with the VIA chipset - it is not a very good choice for overclocking, and it is likely the limiting factor in this case.

I guess I should have clarified what ram@200MHz meant. I run a divider to get it as near to 200MHz as possible. I tried a few different settings and I didn't want to elaborate.

HTT was at 3X the whole time and I did connect both extra power connectors. Thanks for the advice guys, I'll keep plugging away at it and see if I can get something better.

Maybe I should try running one stick of ram on the DFI and see if that helps.

 

[Frown66]

Frown, last I remeber your LBBLE was doing 10x270 @1.61Vcore and mem at 193 2.5-3-3-8, but you said it failed after 4 hours of prime, yet you sure you could get it stable. Did you manage to get it stable (that is prime > 12 hours) and what was the final speeds and voltages ? btw although I dont own the DFI mobo I think you're doing everyting right as far as a general A64 overclocking techniques.

I increased the chipset voltage by .1 and the ldt voltage by .1 (before it was default). Also on the advice of several posters, I ran the large FFT and small FFT test instead of the blend test. I was able to get 8 hours stable. memtest also ran fine as well. I'll benchmark some more if I have more time, but just enjoying some games right now Its still at 2.7ghz.

 

[brentpresley]

Originally posted by: brentpresley

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: brentpresley
Guys, I'm going to update my initial results.

I swapped out the Corsair XMS with some OCZ Gold EL VX and the system is much happier now.

My new memory settings are:
OCZ Gold EL VX running at 255MHz @ 1.5 2 2 8

I also went over to DFI-STREET.com and read through the stickies. If you have a DFI board I highly recommend that site. The mods there are actual DFI tech paid to help users on the site. After some BIOS tweaks I found there I'm much more stable and (with the new memory and FSB settings) knocked almost a minute off my 32M Super Pi score..

My PSU is a little weak at the moment (400W) and most of the readings are undervolting by pretty significant margins right now. I've got a 600W Seasonic on order and will post back when it gets in and I get a chance to install it. Hopefully it will give me a little bit more headroom.

Originally posted by: brentpresley
Gotta toss my hat into the ring here.

-=General Info=-
CPU Model Number: ADA3500DAA4BP
CPU Code: CBBLE 0512DPAW
CPU Serial Number: forgot to write it down :-(

-=System Info=-
Motherboard: DFI NF4 Ultra-D rev-AA02
Memory: Corsiar XMS 3200C2-PT @ 215.8mhz 2.0 3 3 7
PS: Seasonic Super Tornado 400W

-=Stable OC Info=-
Max Stable OC: 2805mhz
Prime95 LFFTs: haven't run yet, still pushing up the speed
Prime95 SFFTs: XX:XX Time
CPU Temp Under Load: 43C

-=Default Vcore=-
Max OC w/ 1M Super PI results: 2805mhz - 31 Seconds

I've really pushed the Vcore up on this chip (1.60V). It hit a bit of a glass ceiling at about 2.4-2.5GHz that I couldn't get through until i pushed the Vcore up significantly.

Currently I'm using the Super PI 32M test to give me an idea of stability. I'll run Prime95 after I get a good idea what the ceiling is on this chip.

Screen capture can be found here.

You've got CAS 1.5 at 255HTT :shocked: ... i highly doubt that .. screenie please

The screen capture IS in the post. Just click on it, or go here:

SEEING IS BELIEVING.

Upped the voltage to 3.2V on the ram and was able to tighten up the settings to 1.5 - 2 - 2 - 5.

Interesting thing is I can't get above 260 stable at ANY setting. I've tried up to 3.5V at 3- 4 - 4 - 10 and it's no go. Hundreds of thousands of memtest errors. Oh well, I've found the wall and it is WAY out in left field, so I'm happy. Planning on running at 2.805GHz daily (it will boot to windows at 2.9GHz).

 

[sangyup81]

Winbound chips don't respond to loose timings. So you're stuck with the tight timings. I wouldn't complain thought

 

[brentpresley]

Not complaining at all!