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Rubycon

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that's not too good, I'd probably have to try some mod to secure it down if I get this but since it's lighter maybe it won't matter as much. don't know if it's worth it to get a new q9550 over temp sensors but I suppose it could be a problem, it might not shut down properly if overheated.



hey Rubycon, you mentioned earlier that you are waiting on a VX right? It looks like you have all 3 supercoolers in one place, if you can run a comparison in a 3 way shootout would be great!

Yes I was in Miami today but there was no VX waiting for me. It happens. When I'm back in 9 days perhaps I will have it then.


I don't think this Megahalems is going to fall off any time soon.

Although the bar across my RV02 has a crack from getting bumped! GRRRR!

You can see it, upper right in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feT6Xpa5vKw
 
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nyker96

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Yes I was in Miami today but there was no VX waiting for me. It happens. When I'm back in 9 days perhaps I will have it then.


I don't think this Megahalems is going to fall off any time soon.

Although the bar across my RV02 has a crack from getting bumped! GRRRR!

You can see it, upper right in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feT6Xpa5vKw

That's too bad, about the case I mean. I'm actually looking into the RV02, does it really cool much better than an upright case like haf 932? The concept does look sound especially for video region.

you probably right about Mega been on top for a while since from the look of it, VX is about 7-8C improvement from old TRUE which is about the same amount Mega seems to beat it in tests I'd say it's going to be close. but some forum review I read put VX like 5C ahead of Mega. Waiting for some actual numbers, definitely post some results when you get your VX. The data for this cooler right now is so scarce, I wonder if TR even officially launch it, I mean it doesn't look like they sent out any review samples to major hardware sites. At least no sites in US even has a review.
 

Rubycon

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It's hit or miss with the RV02. IMO the case should be about five inches taller so there is more room in the bottom. There is turbulence with the honeycomb grilles that reduces airflow from the 180mm input fans. I run them WITHOUT filters. Temps stock are definitely very good with this configuration since coldest air from the bottom is drawn in and a breeze is set up to flow upward. The newer GTX295 with the fan in the middle won't like it that much though. The original design with the blower in the back forcing air out the top channel and through the vent in the back was much easier on any case IMO. This design it's practically required, however. 5870s will run very cool and so will 5970s when you can find them!

My biggest gripe about this case is the placement of the power and reset buttons! I could not tell you how many times I've reset or powered off the machine accidentally just by leaning on it! I don't think they could have placed them in a worse location! When I had my Classified in there I did not even have them hooked up and was using the control module (with display, reset and power buttons) mounted in a 5.25" bay in the front.

I have a HAF932 as well and out of the box it's also quite good. A lot of folks won't like the filter less design but it's really OK with me. IMO if you NEED a filter on a PC you should probably be looking at your indoor air quality as YOU are breathing this stuff too!
 
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nyker96

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It's hit or miss with the RV02. IMO the case should be about five inches taller so there is more room in the bottom. There is turbulence with the honeycomb grilles that reduces airflow from the 180mm input fans. I run them WITHOUT filters. Temps stock are definitely very good with this configuration since coldest air from the bottom is drawn in and a breeze is set up to flow upward. The newer GTX295 with the fan in the middle won't like it that much though. The original design with the blower in the back forcing air out the top channel and through the vent in the back was much easier on any case IMO. This design it's practically required, however. 5870s will run very cool and so will 5970s when you can find them!

My biggest gripe about this case is the placement of the power and reset buttons! I could not tell you how many times I've reset or powered off the machine accidentally just by leaning on it! I don't think they could have placed them in a worse location! When I had my Classified in there I did not even have them hooked up and was using the control module (with display, reset and power buttons) mounted in a 5.25" bay in the front.

I have a HAF932 as well and out of the box it's also quite good. A lot of folks won't like the filter less design but it's really OK with me. IMO if you NEED a filter on a PC you should probably be looking at your indoor air quality as YOU are breathing this stuff too!

doesn't look like you have a glowing review for RV02. I think your complain on odd placement of buttons is because they have to juxtapose everything inside due to the odd position of the board. from what you said and a few reviews pitching RV02 against other cases, it seems nothing right now can top haf 932 on general case temp, although rv02 is still very good for the gcard cooling. I'll keep looking, still have plenty time until next upgrade.

As for the haf 932 filter problem, I started going to my local Michael's crafting store, saw some nylon like material that I can modify into a fan filter. there's always the pantyhose mod if all else fails. I saw Haf X is coming in March from CES 2010 reports but they are not releasing any concretes on its spec only that interior has been pained black. If CM put a filter on the intakes, man that would make a close to perfect case for air flow.
 

Rubycon

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If CM put a filter on the intakes, man that would make a close to perfect case for air flow.

It would take it back a few notches. Effective filters cut air flow significantly. If you use more powerful fans to overcome this flow restriction it gets noisy.
 

nyker96

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It would take it back a few notches. Effective filters cut air flow significantly. If you use more powerful fans to overcome this flow restriction it gets noisy.

I know but my room is on the dusty side and I hate to vacuum the case, so if I get the haf I have to put in some sort of ad hoc filtering system.
 

Interitus

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My VX arrived today but I won't be able to get it set up until the rest of my 1366 build parts get here. Hopefully I'll have it running this coming weekend. Still waiting on my 920 and PSU.

Planning to gun for 4ghz but I had to go retail since I couldn't find a good clocking 920 for sale anywhere. Found 1 for sale but it had been lapped and I wasn't crazy about having to lap the VX as well.

I probably need to find a good fan for the VX, but I have some 120mm medium speed yate loon's that should work ok at first.
 

nyker96

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My VX arrived today but I won't be able to get it set up until the rest of my 1366 build parts get here. Hopefully I'll have it running this coming weekend. Still waiting on my 920 and PSU.

Planning to gun for 4ghz but I had to go retail since I couldn't find a good clocking 920 for sale anywhere. Found 1 for sale but it had been lapped and I wasn't crazy about having to lap the VX as well.

I probably need to find a good fan for the VX, but I have some 120mm medium speed yate loon's that should work ok at first.

try not to lap vx, all these new coolers like promeg, vx all have convex surface if the lap it it might do worse than before. if you do get it setup let us know how it does for a 4ghz i7. love to know.
 

finger-Shaun

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VenoX with 1600RPM.


VenoX with 2500RPM


Mega with 1600RPM.


Mega with 2500RPM.



The 1600RPM is the stock fan of VenoX, and the 2500RPM is the Silver-stone FM123.
 

zagood

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I was going to suggest you re-mount and test again, then noticed that the difference between core 0 and core 3 are pretty consistent through each test.

Interesting results, not what TR fans like me were hoping for in a real-user test. Possible that the ambient temp changed between the earlier tests and the afternoon? (just hoping)

edit: lol...beat me to it.
 
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finger-Shaun

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I was going to suggest you re-mount and test again, then noticed that the difference between core 0 and core 3 are pretty consistent through each test...

Thanks, I already did it, and I believe it depends on CPU because I had the same results.
 

finger-Shaun

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...Interesting results, not what TR fans like me were hoping for in a real-user test. Possible that the ambient temp changed between the earlier tests and the afternoon? (just hoping)

Almost finished in afternoon. I probed the ambient temp from the fans' inlet.
 

nyker96

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i7 @ 3,6ghz.

so let me summarize your results:
VX@1600 :87,86,86,82
Mega@1600:86,85,84,80

VX@2500 :82,79,80,75
Mega@2500:78,77,75,72

can you specify: case used?

Fan spec: SILVERSTONE FM123 120mm
Fan Size 120mm
Bearing Type 2 Ball
RPM 900 - 2600 RPM
Air Flow 40.7 - 106.3 CFM
Noise Level 17.5 - 39.5 dBA
STATIC PRESSURE
0.66~4.55mmH2O

Thanks interesting results.
 
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finger-Shaun

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i7 @ 3,6ghz.

so let me summarize your results:
VX@1600 :87,86,86,82
Mega@1600:86,85,84,80

VX@2500 :82,79,80,75
Mega@2500:78,77,75,72

can you specify: case used?

Fan spec: SILVERSTONE FM123 120mm
Fan Size 120mm
Bearing Type 2 Ball
RPM 900 - 2600 RPM
Air Flow 40.7 - 106.3 CFM
Noise Level 17.5 - 39.5 dBA
STATIC PRESSURE
0.66~4.55mmH2O

Thanks interesting results.

Oh, thanks.()
Without a case, it's open and i7 975@ 4.2ghz, 156x27.
Calibration was auto, and Everest showed 1.35v.
 

nyker96

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Oh, thanks.()
Without a case, it's open and i7 975@ 4.2ghz, 156x27.
Calibration was auto, and Everest showed 1.35v.

ok that clear it up, I thought the temp was high for 3,6. but the screen shot shows 3,6 though. at 4,2 and 1,35v it should hit close to 90s. thanks for a great work on the tests!
 

douglatins

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Conclusions please, it seems that the megashadow mantained the lead i guess, good to know i was about to order a vx
 

Rubycon

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I just found out that mine has arrived in Miami so I will have it my hands by Sunday evening.
 

RaistlinZ

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Which would give lower temps: 2 1600rpm fans in a push+pull, or one single 2500rpm fan?
 

finger-Shaun

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Here's another set of results from another forum I seached, they did a 4 way comparison:
TRUE/TRUE Rev C/Mega/VX using different fan configs:

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=629296

Wah, that post has so much combination.

I did two fans of 2500RPM on VenoX.


The conclusion is Mega needs less Ps than VenoX.
If you have only one fan of high RPM, Mega is better than VenoX.
If you have only one fan of low RPM, both are no different.
...I don't even understand myself.


The third commend is only reasoning.
I indeed had done the two fans of high RPM on Mega, but couldn't find the pic.
I'm too lazy to do the two fans of low RPM.()
 

CurseTheSky

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Any chance you can post a few side-by-side pictures of the Venemous X vs. Mega? Both top-down and side-by-side would be awesome. If it's indeed quite a bit smaller, I'll take the ~2-3C difference just so I can fit it in more cases.

Thank you.
 
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