*Venomous X* owners post your reviews here

nyker96

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anyone who ordered this please post some reviews of it here, how does it compare to TRUE/lapped/Rev C, how it compare to Megahalems? what temperatures for i7@4ghz+ etc.
Love to know.
 

nyker96

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Apr 19, 2005
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I'll have one in about a month.

why so long? I think they are already shipping them in several shops (here in US).

from a few mini reviews online, this cooler looks to be 5C better than a lapped TRUE, slightly smaller form factor too. I'm looking to buy a cooler as well, originally was thinking promeg but this seems just hair better than promeg from the looks of initial reports. waiting for people who has this to review it.

I think TR finally fixed some obvious problems with TRUE like rough finish, only 1 set of fan clippers, poor mount. but I don't think current owner of TRUE needs to bother upgrading since you can just lap the TRUE and come within 5C of this, not worth it. but for people buying new we have more options now.
 

PCTC2

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Not everyone is made of money. I'll have one if a few weeks hopefully.
 

Rubycon

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why so long? I think they are already shipping them in several shops (here in US).

It takes me a while to get everything unfortunately. The good news is they send two of everything in case something is defective.
 

CurseTheSky

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I'm still on the fence about buying one. I'd like to go back to watercooling, but I'd need a new case to do a good 120x3 internal radiator setup.

$70 for the heatsink, or $60-70 for a new waterblock and $200 for a new case, hmm...
 

nyker96

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It takes me a while to get everything unfortunately. The good news is they send two of everything in case something is defective.

sounds like yours are samples for a review. do they let you keep one or both afterwards? :]

I'm still on the fence about buying one. I'd like to go back to watercooling, but I'd need a new case to do a good 120x3 internal radiator setup.

$70 for the heatsink, or $60-70 for a new waterblock and $200 for a new case, hmm...

how much better is your h2O setup compare to air? case wise I think haf 932 might be able to accommodate 120x3, you can mount it inside where the top vent is.
 

RaistlinZ

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Have they changed more than just the fin design and lapping the bottom from the Rev C? I'm assuming the spacing will remain the same to accommodate lower RPM fans. It'd be nice if they could design it so it wouldn't impede the 6th DIMM slot on most common motherboards too.
 

Rubycon

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yes that peaked my interest as well, how do people send you packages? and how do you get internet connection? satellite?

LOL they don't send anything to the ship. I use a broker who procures goods and tests as requested. Everything is purchased in pairs as well in case there is a failure. This is then packaged and waiting for me at the home port.

The company provides internet at a cost of $0.10 per minute about as fast as slow(er) DSL with about 750ms latency. The other connection is provided by a consultant using low earth orbit satellite which is much faster and has around 100ms latency. It's comparable to 1.5Mbps DSL. Best of all it's free for me to use. (so far!) It's not always reliable though and when it goes down it goes DOWN!
 

nyker96

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LOL they don't send anything to the ship. I use a broker who procures goods and tests as requested. Everything is purchased in pairs as well in case there is a failure. This is then packaged and waiting for me at the home port.

The company provides internet at a cost of $0.10 per minute about as fast as slow(er) DSL with about 750ms latency. The other connection is provided by a consultant using low earth orbit satellite which is much faster and has around 100ms latency. It's comparable to 1.5Mbps DSL. Best of all it's free for me to use. (so far!) It's not always reliable though and when it goes down it goes DOWN!

that sounds like quite an interesting life, how long are you at sea at a time?
 

Rubycon

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that sounds like quite an interesting life, how long are you at sea at a time?

6 months at a time with six weeks vacation. I have not taken a vacation since 2006 though. Have no family ashore so it does not matter. Everyone onboard is family to me.
 

Nocturnal

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I just got mine last night. I have it connected to a QX9650 and an ASUS Rampage Formula motherboard. Installation was pretty painless. The motherboard was already out of the case. I am having some troubles with the temps reading higher than what it should be but it appears it has to do with the motherboard as opposed to the chip itself. Touching the base of the heat sink, as well as removing the heat sink and feeling the chip for heat -- there basically is none. That would be due to the fact that I have a Delta 4000RPM beast of a fan on there spinning full speed. I don't use this computer as my main rig so it isn't on constantly. I will eventually get another Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme fan controller to dampen the sound from the fan.

In the mean time, I had an extra Panaflo fan that spins at 2750RPM and connected that as well in a push/pull configuration. It's pretty amazing. I only overclocked it using the "Crazy" setting on the motherboard. Unfortunately I wasn't able to install Windows due to the fact that I'm waiting on other parts. I still need a power supply, case, hard drives and optical drives. I have some laying around but won't be using them since they're being used in another build.

But from the initial brief time I've had with the Venomous, it seems pretty amazing.


 

Kantastic

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Have they changed more than just the fin design and lapping the bottom from the Rev C? I'm assuming the spacing will remain the same to accommodate lower RPM fans. It'd be nice if they could design it so it wouldn't impede the 6th DIMM slot on most common motherboards too.

They increased the fin gap by 20%.
 

gorobei

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Seems like fin spacing doesnt need to be as tight as previously thought. I've always been amazed by the performance of the AC accelero s1 given the massive spacing between fins. Seems like ease of airflow is more important than total surface area. I'd love to see how a pure heatpipe array with fan and no fins would do.
 

Visaoni

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Is that a large clump of dust sitting on the fan of your pretty new heatsink? A few seconds of compressed air prior to attaching the fan may not have been such a bad idea.

It is nice to get an idea of what it can do though.
 

Nocturnal

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That fan is older, yes, that is dust. I'm not using it, that was really just a small test. I've having problems though. Cores #1 and #2 are reading 70 degrees celcius with Real Temp and this is idle. Upon using Prime95 the two cores that are reading high still at or around 70-71 max and then other two cores start increasing in temperature.
 

douglatins

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That fan is older, yes, that is dust. I'm not using it, that was really just a small test. I've having problems though. Cores #1 and #2 are reading 70 degrees celcius with Real Temp and this is idle. Upon using Prime95 the two cores that are reading high still at or around 70-71 max and then other two cores start increasing in temperature.

Yes those temps are very high i suspected that would be it since your bios posted a very high temp too, in bios should be top 30C
 

Nocturnal

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It appears that cores #1 and #2 are stuck. They both stay the same no matter what, never change. Also when I Prime the system even at 1.3v, cores #1 and #2 stay at 71c from what it is now and never go above that, ever. However, cores #3 and #4 both vary and go up from what it is at idle to roughly around 45 and 55 respectively. So the other two vary and apparently after finally finding a few sites with similar results, it appears to be the norm. People said the sensors get stuck on quite a number of QX9650. I have another QX9650 but didn't want to tear that down to test it so I'm just going to leave it as is, put it back to stock voltage and leave it at the stablest overclock I can get and call it a day. I'm just going to move forward towards i7 now.
 

nyker96

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It appears that cores #1 and #2 are stuck. They both stay the same no matter what, never change. Also when I Prime the system even at 1.3v, cores #1 and #2 stay at 71c from what it is now and never go above that, ever. However, cores #3 and #4 both vary and go up from what it is at idle to roughly around 45 and 55 respectively. So the other two vary and apparently after finally finding a few sites with similar results, it appears to be the norm. People said the sensors get stuck on quite a number of QX9650. I have another QX9650 but didn't want to tear that down to test it so I'm just going to leave it as is, put it back to stock voltage and leave it at the stablest overclock I can get and call it a day. I'm just going to move forward towards i7 now.

thanks for the temp report. first how secure is the mounting, heard some people still report you can rotate the hsf even after you put in 70lb pressure. another thing is have you got another super cooler you can run on this setup just to compare it to something else? like promeg or true 120 (various types)? but all in all good to know your opinion on it.
 

Nocturnal

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Even with 70lb of pressure you can move the heat sink around. I tried it and was surprised by that to. I just tested my setup by installing a regular retail Intel heat sink and fan and the problem remains only my temps went up a tad bit. So my CPU seems to have a problem but if the lower two cores say anything, it's a pretty decent cooler. I don't have another super cooler I can test against. I'll be looking to pick up a Promeg within the next month so I'll try and update. I have to fix this CPU thing first, I may have to get another CPU or see if Intel will RMA this one.
 

Rubycon

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The Megahalems would turn if it were not mechanically restrained. Increasing the pressure does not assure it will not turn! As a matter of fact increasing the pressure too much risks damaging the board! Some users have reported "losing" memory when the pressure is cranked up on the VX. I had this happen once with my Megahalems because the backplate was modified to increase pressure. It was temporary to see if there was a change in load temps. (there wasn't) What happened is the system showed 8192MB RAM (out of 12GB) and Win7 indicated 8GB (out of 12 available!).

If you see this happening, back off!

To recap if the mounting does not physically restrain rotation of the heatsink you will always be able to turn it. Sometimes with surprisingly small effort. Don't worry about that - your temps will be fine.

The retention mechanism on the TRUE Rev. C is much like the Megahalems and indeed rotation is NOT possible. I found the Rev. C to be within killing distance (1-2C typ) of the Megahalems.

I currently use the Megahalems Shadow. Its base is polished whereas the original Megahalems had machine grooves - although very subtle. I would NOT recommend lapping either base as they are intentionally convex to optimize thermal transfer between CPU and heatsink when mounted. I bold that part because you cannot see what it looks like (the light leak test) when it's mounted under pressure.
 

nyker96

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Even with 70lb of pressure you can move the heat sink around. I tried it and was surprised by that to. I just tested my setup by installing a regular retail Intel heat sink and fan and the problem remains only my temps went up a tad bit. So my CPU seems to have a problem but if the lower two cores say anything, it's a pretty decent cooler. I don't have another super cooler I can test against. I'll be looking to pick up a Promeg within the next month so I'll try and update. I have to fix this CPU thing first, I may have to get another CPU or see if Intel will RMA this one.

that's not too good, I'd probably have to try some mod to secure it down if I get this but since it's lighter maybe it won't matter as much. don't know if it's worth it to get a new q9550 over temp sensors but I suppose it could be a problem, it might not shut down properly if overheated.

The Megahalems would turn if it were not mechanically restrained. Increasing the pressure does not assure it will not turn! As a matter of fact increasing the pressure too much risks damaging the board! Some users have reported "losing" memory when the pressure is cranked up on the VX. I had this happen once with my Megahalems because the backplate was modified to increase pressure. It was temporary to see if there was a change in load temps. (there wasn't) What happened is the system showed 8192MB RAM (out of 12GB) and Win7 indicated 8GB (out of 12 available!).

If you see this happening, back off!

To recap if the mounting does not physically restrain rotation of the heatsink you will always be able to turn it. Sometimes with surprisingly small effort. Don't worry about that - your temps will be fine.

The retention mechanism on the TRUE Rev. C is much like the Megahalems and indeed rotation is NOT possible. I found the Rev. C to be within killing distance (1-2C typ) of the Megahalems.

I currently use the Megahalems Shadow. Its base is polished whereas the original Megahalems had machine grooves - although very subtle. I would NOT recommend lapping either base as they are intentionally convex to optimize thermal transfer between CPU and heatsink when mounted. I bold that part because you cannot see what it looks like (the light leak test) when it's mounted under pressure.

hey Rubycon, you mentioned earlier that you are waiting on a VX right? It looks like you have all 3 supercoolers in one place, if you can run a comparison in a 3 way shootout would be great!
 
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