verizon dsl deal, $80 rebate!

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vkeks05

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Originally posted by: Orunitia
I called them up about it and since I already got verizon dsl they offered to give me 2 months free on my next billing. Thanx for the deal


What did you say to them to get a deal like that? I'm a current customer and I want some sort of compensation.
 

Yo2

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My observations apply to central jersey and verizon, comcast and optimum online

Verizon's service itself is slow compared to similar priced cable (>768/128 vs 1700/90 or <4000/1000 (optimum online if you can get it)
Verizon tech support is OK but they are castrated by the unions and the people that turn on and off the service in the switches. Unlike cable which is there almost instantly it takes about 3 weeks (!!!!!!!!!!!!) to get a dsl line.
Comcast support which was very poor initially has vastly improved over the last year
Comcast reliability is an issue if you live away from the main cable strands.
Verizon service was down only a couple of times in over 2 years
Verizon uses the PPPoE protocol and forces you to load this cr@p software on your machine. Unlike the cable set-up software, which is useless but unintrusive, this program can impact system and program stability. Ideally do not install it, but use a DSL gateway firewall router to sign on permanently, then you do not need the software at all.

This whole thing about dsl being independent of the number of subscribers is bull... With cable you may find a traffic concentration in your area but nothing more downstream. With DSL you get ok to next concentrator, and then it's the same - you share whatever bandwidth is available with everybody else who has the service.

Yo
 

cheap

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Originally posted by: Yo2
My observations apply to central jersey and verizon, comcast and optimum online

Verizon uses the PPPoE protocol and forces you to load this cr@p software on your machine. Unlike the cable set-up software, which is useless but unintrusive, this program can impact system and program stability. Ideally do not install it, but use a DSL gateway firewall router to sign on permanently, then you do not need the software at all.
ok to next concentrator, and then it's the same - you share whatever bandwidth is available with everybody else who has the service.
Yo


What the hell are you talking about? You don't have to install their software, and yes it's crap. I installed it once for the hell of it and you wouldn't believe how much it slowed down my system. It's basically there for your [in]convinience with all the buttons for all services and stuff which you can easily do from their web page. But like I said, you don't have to install anything, the moment you get dsl signal, it's like you're on a LAN. All you have to do is in internet properties say you're going to access internet through LAN, that's all.
 

LS20

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Originally posted by: Walliser
I just recently moved back to Verizon DSL after having used Covad for a while.

I like Verizon, had 2 or 3 downtimes of a couple of hours when I had it the first time around. Not been down since I moved back, so I can't complain. Big selling point for me is their excellent news server. If you are using the news server heavily, this deal will be even sweeter as there is no cap and the retention is pretty good.

Wish I had known about the rebate thru Staples, but, too late for me now, got the GC though.

basically how the service was for me

the only complaints: its kinda pricey compared to others... 768/128 is normally 49.99 plus some bullsh1t 5$ GPS charge... when you can get 1.5/128 or 768/384 from some other providers for only 49.99... but its still good

and no you do no tneed to install any software at all and no logging into the service needed
 

PolaroidPaul

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The deal on Verizon.com is still there.

I notice that after 6 months, the rate is $49.95 a month. I have been on Verizon DSL for over a year and since I bought my modem, I only pay $39.95 a month! The modem did cost $100 but included all the filters I needed as well which meant I didn't have to go get them. I have already saved the price of the modem.

If you are a Verizon local phone customer AND sign up to get long distance from them (only if they offer long distance in your area) you can save another $5 a month on your DSL.

Service has been good over the past year. Most outages (haven't had many) seem to occur around midnight (eastern time) and are usually corrected very quickly. Service reps have always been very good except that they always want to check your PC first when you know it is their network which is down. I use a Netgear router for protection and sharing. Everything works just great though I wish we could use both computers to run the same internet games at the same time. You cannot do that when you share the one IP address you have assigned to your router. Surfing the net is no problem. Gaming is a different story.
 

Orunitia

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Originally posted by: cheap
Originally posted by: Yo2
My observations apply to central jersey and verizon, comcast and optimum online

Verizon uses the PPPoE protocol and forces you to load this cr@p software on your machine. Unlike the cable set-up software, which is useless but unintrusive, this program can impact system and program stability. Ideally do not install it, but use a DSL gateway firewall router to sign on permanently, then you do not need the software at all.
ok to next concentrator, and then it's the same - you share whatever bandwidth is available with everybody else who has the service.
Yo


What the hell are you talking about? You don't have to install their software, and yes it's crap. I installed it once for the hell of it and you wouldn't believe how much it slowed down my system. It's basically there for your [in]convinience with all the buttons for all services and stuff which you can easily do from their web page. But like I said, you don't have to install anything, the moment you get dsl signal, it's like you're on a LAN. All you have to do is in internet properties say you're going to access internet through LAN, that's all.

You can do that?! What about the logging in with user name and password? How's that handled if you just use LAN? Right now I'm just using RASPPOE instead since it seems to be a bit more effecient than that silly software verizon gives me and it takes up almost no space at all. The only time you really need to install Verizon's crap is when you're signing on and registering for the very first time when your service starts. Once all that is done you don't have to keep using their software to connect.
 

cheap

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Originally posted by: Orunitia
Originally posted by: cheap
Originally posted by: Yo2
My observations apply to central jersey and verizon, comcast and optimum online

Verizon uses the PPPoE protocol and forces you to load this cr@p software on your machine. Unlike the cable set-up software, which is useless but unintrusive, this program can impact system and program stability. Ideally do not install it, but use a DSL gateway firewall router to sign on permanently, then you do not need the software at all.
ok to next concentrator, and then it's the same - you share whatever bandwidth is available with everybody else who has the service.
Yo


What the hell are you talking about? You don't have to install their software, and yes it's crap. I installed it once for the hell of it and you wouldn't believe how much it slowed down my system. It's basically there for your [in]convinience with all the buttons for all services and stuff which you can easily do from their web page. But like I said, you don't have to install anything, the moment you get dsl signal, it's like you're on a LAN. All you have to do is in internet properties say you're going to access internet through LAN, that's all.

You can do that?! What about the logging in with user name and password? How's that handled if you just use LAN? Right now I'm just using RASPPOE instead since it seems to be a bit more effecient than that silly software verizon gives me and it takes up almost no space at all. The only time you really need to install Verizon's crap is when you're signing on and registering for the very first time when your service starts. Once all that is done you don't have to keep using their software to connect.


Like I said, DSL is no different from cable, they both use NICs to connect to your PC so to your PC it's like you're on a LAN. User Name and password is there for your e-mail, there's no logging in ect. You don't have to install their software for the first time either, all it will do is make sure your setting are set up right which you can do yourself. You can set up e-mail client can't you? It all worked fine for me without installing their software. In fact, their tech herself told me to check if dsl is available on line to just start up a browser when they were first turning it on for me. She said nothing about the software. Ever since I reinstalled windows I haven't even touched their cd, stay as far away from it as possible. Just make sure in internet properties it says you get on internet through lan and not through connection/logging in. In fact you don't even have to do that since windows will detect network settings automatically for you now I think when you start up internet explorer.

DSL is just like Cable, an always on connection, no logging in necessary. The moment you turn your computer on you can use it.
 

deramon

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I had verizon line sharing dsl almost 4 yrs ago. It was pretty bad. I went to mindspring with a covad line. The I tried cable with optimum online. Cable could be the best but optimum is VERY bad at customer service. There is new dsl with 1.5/768 service (you have to be within 2 miles of the telco - which I am.) So I am switching again to cyberonic for 39.95/mo (but with 18 mo prepay, $250 early canc. fee - but they have a good track record.)

Good luck
 

yhelothar

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Verizon's service itself is slow compared to similar priced cable (>768/128 vs 1700/90 or <4000/1000 (optimum online if you can get it)
Verizon tech support is OK but they are castrated by the unions and the people that turn on and off the service in the switches. Unlike cable which is there almost instantly it takes about 3 weeks (!!!!!!!!!!!!) to get a dsl line.
Comcast support which was very poor initially has vastly improved over the last year
Comcast reliability is an issue if you live away from the main cable strands.
Verizon service was down only a couple of times in over 2 years
Verizon uses the PPPoE protocol and forces you to load this cr@p software on your machine. Unlike the cable set-up software, which is useless but unintrusive, this program can impact system and program stability. Ideally do not install it, but use a DSL gateway firewall router to sign on permanently, then you do not need the software at all.
well it's much different in so. california here

1. Verizon costs less than competing services, there's only charter communications cable here that costs the same without all these special deals like 6months for $29.99
2. The support is ok, they don't have very skilled tech support people, but i guess it's adequate. When I got my dsl, i was connected in less than 24 hours upon registration, but I already had a modem ready.
3. I use verizon and have no idea what comcast is..
4. Haven't had one time when verizon was down, but i did disconnect a few times, but that was because i had a crappy hub
5. Verizon uses DNS for me, and i never had to load ANY software.
 

fishlet

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My AT&T cable internet speed was 180KB/s. My verizon DSL speed is 40KB/s.
will give the tech support a call.
 

Hoeboy

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Verizon DSL service is excellent in my area. I consistently get the speed I'm promised but the real kicker is the access to the newsgroup. It's amazingly fast, complete, and retention can sometimes go up to 1 week +!!!

Anyone who is a recent customer and was able to successfully call up Verizon for some compensation, please post what you said. $50/month has been stiff on my pockets. Would love to get some sort of discount because I don't think I got any discount in the beginning except for the free equipment.
 

Jedibus

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Ok, I installed the software on my XP system and have to log in whenever I want to go online. From what you guys are saying, I can uninstall the software and still have instant internet access like I did with Optimum Online?
If that is true, I'm going to be very happy.
 

jacky72

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Like I said, DSL is no different from cable, they both use NICs to connect to your PC so to your PC it's like you're on a LAN. User Name and password is there for your e-mail, there's no logging in ect. You don't have to install their software for the first time either, all it will do is make sure your setting are set up right which you can do yourself. You can set up e-mail client can't you? It all worked fine for me without installing their software. In fact, their tech herself told me to check if dsl is available on line to just start up a browser when they were first turning it on for me. She said nothing about the software. Ever since I reinstalled windows I haven't even touched their cd, stay as far away from it as possible. Just make sure in internet properties it says you get on internet through lan and not through connection/logging in. In fact you don't even have to do that since windows will detect network settings automatically for you now I think when you start up internet explorer.

DSL is just like Cable, an always on connection, no logging in necessary. The moment you turn your computer on you can use it.

not true, DSL is not the same as cable. I dunno what kinda dsl u have, but u do need the user/password to log in. u need to install verizon's software for at least once, it'll create an user name and password for u. if u have a dsl router that supports PPPoE, u can setup ur router to log in automatically. urs could be a modem/router combo.
 

k000

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I just strated using this DSL.. and I am told that ZoneAlarm interferes with DSL... Is that right ?
 

sashacu

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I have been with verizon for the last 7 months. I have called them today to cancel my service since I am am paying $49.95 a month. They offered me 6 months service at 29.95
 

cheap

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Originally posted by: jacky72
Like I said, DSL is no different from cable, they both use NICs to connect to your PC so to your PC it's like you're on a LAN. User Name and password is there for your e-mail, there's no logging in ect. You don't have to install their software for the first time either, all it will do is make sure your setting are set up right which you can do yourself. You can set up e-mail client can't you? It all worked fine for me without installing their software. In fact, their tech herself told me to check if dsl is available on line to just start up a browser when they were first turning it on for me. She said nothing about the software. Ever since I reinstalled windows I haven't even touched their cd, stay as far away from it as possible. Just make sure in internet properties it says you get on internet through lan and not through connection/logging in. In fact you don't even have to do that since windows will detect network settings automatically for you now I think when you start up internet explorer.

DSL is just like Cable, an always on connection, no logging in necessary. The moment you turn your computer on you can use it.

not true, DSL is not the same as cable. I dunno what kinda dsl u have, but u do need the user/password to log in. u need to install verizon's software for at least once, it'll create an user name and password for u. if u have a dsl router that supports PPPoE, u can setup ur router to log in automatically. urs could be a modem/router combo.

No it is true. What DSL I have? I have verizon DSL and Verizon as an ISP and it's an always on connection for me. I never had to install any software for it to start working. My modem is not a router/modem combo, just a simple westell dsl modem. The moment windows started up and initialized networking ect. I can use the internet. The only thing I need my user name and password for is to check mail in Outlook Express.
 

Techie333

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I don't even get service after the activation date...i got the westell modem and the ready light just keeps blinking green slowly meaning something is wrong with the connection......I do have an alarm system but the company stopped monitoring it a year ago.....can this be my problem???...i called them adn they said someone from hardware department or something will contact me within 36 hours......THIS SUCKS ALREADY.....and it takes me about an hour to even reach tech support......roadrunner was so much better...
 

jacky72

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Originally posted by: cheap
Originally posted by: jacky72
No it is true. What DSL I have? I have verizon DSL and Verizon as an ISP and it's an always on connection for me. I never had to install any software for it to start working. My modem is not a router/modem combo, just a simple westell dsl modem. The moment windows started up and initialized networking ect. I can use the internet. The only thing I need my user name and password for is to check mail in Outlook Express.

not according to this site

"There are currently three types of FastAccess connection. The original Bridged/DHCP service is no longer being offered. So for new installs this leaves two: PPPoA or PPPoE. "

"All new installations are now PPP. This can be either PPPoE (PPP over Ethernet) or PPPoA (PPP over ATM), two similar yet different protocols. Both use a mechanism similar to a dialup style connection: username and password are required. The server passes a (dynamic) IP address, netmask and other networking details back to the client once authentication has been successful."

so apparently u have the bridged/DHCP service, Verizon/former GTE is DHCP.
 

alyosha

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Firewalls can not interfere with DSL, but depending on the type of firewall you would have to allow certain programs to acess internet, however I dont think dialer, is one of them, it is not really accessing internet, it operates the modem.
 

emonkey

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Most of us new users dont want to bother with the whole "install crappy software | register | pick user name | set up router | uninstall software" thing so heres a something to save you some time.

Verizon Account Setup Wizard
 

seatidex

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Verizon DSL? forget about it! Their customer service sucks! You will receive the bill only after one normal billing cycle. When you find the problem in your bill, you won't give you money back. We will never use Verizon DSL!
 
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