verizon dsl deal, $80 rebate!

[seatidex]

Verizon dsl only provides dynamic ip address which is useless. You can't host your web site. :|

 

[k000]

In fact that is specifically forbidden in the contract. But hey, you are getting a very good deal (cheaper than NetZero/ATT dialup etc, for 6 months)

Originally posted by: seatidex
Verizon dsl only provides dynamic ip address which is useless. You can't host your web site. :|

 

[ETan]

I just installed everything... seems to run fine...

Until:

I had kazaa downloading in the background... left computer running while I was away... came back 20 minutes later and it disconnected. This happened a couple of times so I called customer service (which i think is quite courteous), and they told me that there's a clause on the agreement that lets them disconnect u after 15 minutes of idle time. :|:frown:

How can we get around that? That really stinks.

I'm running win2k pro. Can anyone suggest a solution?

 

[Orunitia]

Originally posted by: jacky72

Originally posted by: cheap

Originally posted by: jacky72

No it is true. What DSL I have? I have verizon DSL and Verizon as an ISP and it's an always on connection for me. I never had to install any software for it to start working. My modem is not a router/modem combo, just a simple westell dsl modem. The moment windows started up and initialized networking ect. I can use the internet. The only thing I need my user name and password for is to check mail in Outlook Express.

not according to this site "There are currently three types of FastAccess connection. The original Bridged/DHCP service is no longer being offered. So for new installs this leaves two: PPPoA or PPPoE. " "All new installations are now PPP. This can be either PPPoE (PPP over Ethernet) or PPPoA (PPP over ATM), two similar yet different protocols. Both use a mechanism similar to a dialup style connection: username and password are required. The server passes a (dynamic) IP address, netmask and other networking details back to the client once authentication has been successful." so apparently u have the bridged/DHCP service, Verizon/former GTE is DHCP.

ok that explains a lot. I know for sure that my internet DOESN'T work if I don't log on when my computer boots up and a username and password is need somewhere while it's logging in. I have tried playing around with the network settings in windows but nothing on the network works if it's internet related unless I'm logged in.

 

[Orunitia]

Originally posted by: ETan
I just installed everything... seems to run fine... Until: I had kazaa downloading in the background... left computer running while I was away... came back 20 minutes later and it disconnected. This happened a couple of times so I called customer service (which i think is quite courteous), and they told me that there's a clause on the agreement that lets them disconnect u after 15 minutes of idle time. :|:frown: How can we get around that? That really stinks. I'm running win2k pro. Can anyone suggest a solution?

There should be some kind of setting under the PPPoE you use for logging in. Just look for redial if line is dropped and make sure that's checked. And also make sure that the option to disconnect after certain number of idle minutes have past is unchecked.

 

[SendTrash]

I tried setting my router to PPPOE and it doesn't work.. what were you guys talking about?

any other ideas on how to fix it if your connection gets disconnected sometimes?

 

[fishlet]

Originally posted by: SendTrash
I tried setting my router to PPPOE and it doesn't work.. what were you guys talking about?

any other ideas on how to fix it if your connection gets disconnected sometimes?

I set my router to PPPoE, then input my user name and password. I am all set without the software from Verizon.

I set the router to "keep alive", that way I won't get disconnect.

 

[cheap]

Originally posted by: jacky72

Originally posted by: cheap

Originally posted by: jacky72

No it is true. What DSL I have? I have verizon DSL and Verizon as an ISP and it's an always on connection for me. I never had to install any software for it to start working. My modem is not a router/modem combo, just a simple westell dsl modem. The moment windows started up and initialized networking ect. I can use the internet. The only thing I need my user name and password for is to check mail in Outlook Express.

not according to this site

"There are currently three types of FastAccess connection. The original Bridged/DHCP service is no longer being offered. So for new installs this leaves two: PPPoA or PPPoE. "

"All new installations are now PPP. This can be either PPPoE (PPP over Ethernet) or PPPoA (PPP over ATM), two similar yet different protocols. Both use a mechanism similar to a dialup style connection: username and password are required. The server passes a (dynamic) IP address, netmask and other networking details back to the client once authentication has been successful."

so apparently u have the bridged/DHCP service, Verizon/former GTE is DHCP.

That explains it I guess. I have Verizon DSL for like 3 months now so I might very well got it before they dumped DHCP service. In that case it really sucks for you guys who are just signing up. Having to connect to use internet and getting disconnected after 15 minutes? Crap, I would get cable in that case. Hell, I'm thinking of getting cable anyway and I got it good from Verizon. Cable from AT$T: $50 Bandwidth: 1.5/256, same price, twice as much bandwidth.

 

[vkeks05]

Doh, I called right when the customer service closed at 8. :|
Guess I'll have to try again tomorrow. Anybody have any useful advice for me?

 

[yoandy]

expired! argh...

 

[seatidex]

Verizon DSL is not stable. I was forced to use some download managers to download files when I was using it.

 

[cheap]

Hmm, I've seen some people got some sort of compensation even though they're current customers, well, yesterday I called them up about it and the guy is like: NO, I can't do anything for you, you're a current customer and this promotion is for new customers. I couldn't get anywhere with him.

BUT:

Originally posted by: sashacu
I have been with verizon for the last 7 months. I have called them today to cancel my service since I am am paying $49.95 a month. They offered me 6 months service at 29.95

Thanx for the tip! Today I called them up and I'm like:

ME: I want cancel my account
CSR: Is there any reason why?
ME: Well, it's a bit too pricey for me right now.
CSR: Would it help you if we put you on a 29.95/month for six months promotional plan?
ME: Well...... [pretending like I'm really spending some time thinking about it] HELL YEAH, BABY, SIGN ME UP. (ok, so last part wasn't exactly like that but you get the idea )

So yeah, another satisfied Verizon customer, but I don't have to deal with login and bein disconnected after idling for 15 minutes crap. Get good pings in games. Over the last 3-4 months only several times that I noticed that DSL was down for couple hours. Other than that, it's good, would be even better if it was 1.5/256 though, and I live like 800 feet from OC so I can get some insane bandwidth if I wanted to.

Now all I'm waiting for is for AT$T to start their promotions like early this year where they offered $20/month for six months of something like that. I would be all over that.

 

[jrichrds]

For Verizon DSL, if you get:
Fujitsu Speedport modem = PPPoE, must login to access the 'net.
Westell modem = no login necessary, "always on".

Has anyone experienced anything to the contrary?

 

[jacky72]

Originally posted by: jrichrds
For Verizon DSL, if you get:
Fujitsu Speedport modem = PPPoE, must login to access the 'net.
Westell modem = no login necessary, "always on".

Has anyone experienced anything to the contrary?

mine is a westell wirespeed C90 modem, and it's PPPoE

 

[tajdtj]

We just received the Westell modem, works great, always on and we have downloaded all night.

 

[k000]

How are you guys seeing what kinf of modem is that ? I too have Westel Dual.... but where does it say PPPoE

And when you say no login necessary, do you mean saving the password in that connection dialog box and saying always connect on startup ?

Can someone please list down basic to do points here ?

Thanks.

Originally posted by: jrichrds
For Verizon DSL, if you get: Fujitsu Speedport modem = PPPoE, must login to access the 'net. Westell modem = no login necessary, "always on". Has anyone experienced anything to the contrary?

 

[cheap]

Originally posted by: jrichrds
For Verizon DSL, if you get:
Fujitsu Speedport modem = PPPoE, must login to access the 'net.
Westell modem = no login necessary, "always on".

Has anyone experienced anything to the contrary?

I have Westell WireSpeed model: C90-36R516-01 and it's an always on for me.
But like someone said, I got service 4 months ago. They don't seem to do that anymore.

 

[Hoeboy]

Originally posted by: jrichrds
For Verizon DSL, if you get:
Fujitsu Speedport modem = PPPoE, must login to access the 'net.
Westell modem = no login necessary, "always on".

Has anyone experienced anything to the contrary?

I signed up for Verizon 2-3 years ago and got the Fujitsu. All I did was plug that sucker in and my computer automatically detected a network connection. No signing on for me! I cancelled the service after my contract was over and went with cable broadband. It was good except I pinged like crap in games. Last year I signed up for Verizon again. I got a Fujitsu yet again but still no logging on w/ username and password. I seriously have no idea what you guys are talking about. The only time I ever have to input my username and pw is to access the newsgroups or e-mail. I'm in S. california by the way.

 

[Hoeboy]

Originally posted by: cheap
Hmm, I've seen some people got some sort of compensation even though they're current customers, well, yesterday I called them up about it and the guy is like: NO, I can't do anything for you, you're a current customer and this promotion is for new customers. I couldn't get anywhere with him.

BUT:

Originally posted by: sashacu
I have been with verizon for the last 7 months. I have called them today to cancel my service since I am am paying $49.95 a month. They offered me 6 months service at 29.95

Thanx for the tip! Today I called them up and I'm like:

ME: I want cancel my account
CSR: Is there any reason why?
ME: Well, it's a bit too pricey for me right now.
CSR: Would it help you if we put you on a 29.95/month for six months promotional plan?
ME: Well...... [pretending like I'm really spending some time thinking about it] HELL YEAH, BABY, SIGN ME UP. (ok, so last part wasn't exactly like that but you get the idea )

So yeah, another satisfied Verizon customer, but I don't have to deal with login and bein disconnected after idling for 15 minutes crap. Get good pings in games. Over the last 3-4 months only several times that I noticed that DSL was down for couple hours. Other than that, it's good, would be even better if it was 1.5/256 though, and I live like 800 feet from OC so I can get some insane bandwidth if I wanted to.

Now all I'm waiting for is for AT$T to start their promotions like early this year where they offered $20/month for six months of something like that. I would be all over that.

Damn I want to do that but what would you say if your bluff failed and instead of "Would it help you if we put you on a 29.95 plan," they said "Ok we will cancel your account right now?"

Someone tell me a good counter if the CSR won't call my bluff and maybe I'll try it. As of right now I'm too scared

 

[cheap]

Originally posted by: Hoeboy

Originally posted by: cheap
Hmm, I've seen some people got some sort of compensation even though they're current customers, well, yesterday I called them up about it and the guy is like: NO, I can't do anything for you, you're a current customer and this promotion is for new customers. I couldn't get anywhere with him.

BUT:

Originally posted by: sashacu
I have been with verizon for the last 7 months. I have called them today to cancel my service since I am am paying $49.95 a month. They offered me 6 months service at 29.95

Thanx for the tip! Today I called them up and I'm like:

ME: I want cancel my account
CSR: Is there any reason why?
ME: Well, it's a bit too pricey for me right now.
CSR: Would it help you if we put you on a 29.95/month for six months promotional plan?
ME: Well...... [pretending like I'm really spending some time thinking about it] HELL YEAH, BABY, SIGN ME UP. (ok, so last part wasn't exactly like that but you get the idea )

So yeah, another satisfied Verizon customer, but I don't have to deal with login and bein disconnected after idling for 15 minutes crap. Get good pings in games. Over the last 3-4 months only several times that I noticed that DSL was down for couple hours. Other than that, it's good, would be even better if it was 1.5/256 though, and I live like 800 feet from OC so I can get some insane bandwidth if I wanted to.

Now all I'm waiting for is for AT$T to start their promotions like early this year where they offered $20/month for six months of something like that. I would be all over that.

Damn I want to do that but what would you say if your bluff failed and instead of "Would it help you if we put you on a 29.95 plan," they said "Ok we will cancel your account right now?"

Someone tell me a good counter if the CSR won't call my bluff and maybe I'll try it. As of right now I'm too scared

What I was gonna say in case CSR was going to cancel my account for real was something like:

Since it's the middle of the month, would I get charged full price or will it get prorated?

then whatever he answers I would tell him that on a second thought, I think I could probably afford to keep the service till the end of the month so don't shut it off till the end. If they can put a note like that in their system, I would just call back later and cancel the cancelation through a different CSR, otherwise if he told me I have to call back at the end of the month to get it cancelled I just wouldn't call

I give you no guarantee that the above would get you out of a cancellation if they don't offer you a deal, it would suck to lose your always on connection and have to use PPPoE from then on, but that's what I had ready incase I didn't get offered that promotion, but I think as long as you mention that you can't afford to pay 50 a month they will offer it to you. BTW, if you're going to do it, better hurry, this promotion ends monday. Also, in last thread about verizon dsl, there were also a shitload of people posting that they would call in and say they want to close their service and verizon would give them promotions, so I'm thinking that's a standard procedure a CSR has to go through in order to make customer stay with them.

 

[vkeks05]

Hrm, well I called today stating that I was thinking about cancelling because of high prices ($49.95 per month) and the representative gave me the $39.95 per month deal for life. Honestly, 49.95 is pretty expensive for 768/128. By the way, I'm in PA. Good deal.

 

[fatboy]

Thanks again, this is a pretty good deal... beats 56k no matter what the speed it is above 56k.....

On the pppoe thing.... i just pluged the modem in and gave me dhcp.... no need for the software.... now I couldn't access my email.... I don't know if they have set it up yet... but oh well... i have plenty of other email address....


fatboy!

 

[igowerf]

Verizon uses the PPPoE protocol and forces you to load this cr@p software on your machine. Unlike the cable set-up software, which is useless but unintrusive, this program can impact system and program stability. Ideally do not install it, but use a DSL gateway firewall router to sign on permanently, then you do not need the software at all.

WinXP has built in support for PPPOE so you don't need to install anything. Of course, a nice router would be ideal.

 

[Techie333]

ok heres the thing..........after a while, I finally got my connection activated and now all i did was change my internet setting to never dial a connection and automatically detect LAN setting and i am typing this using the dsl line. NO SOFTWARE WHATSOEVER FOR ALL THOSE NON-BELIEVERS........also i think that this ONLY WORKS FOR THE WESTELL DSL MODEM................not the other one that they send you..........this is great......i though i would have to install that crap software after hearing all of you guys complain about it!!

 

[jrichrds]

Is the Verizon software needed to create the 4 e-mail addresses?
I don't see any way to create these e-mail addresses, and the primary e-mail address I was assigned to is a cryptic jumble of letters and numbers.