VIA KT400A. *3-31-03 UPDATE*

[DoubleL]

Sorry Asus A7N8X Dlx, XP2600, Corsair 512 3200TwinX, AIW 9700 Pro, Audigy 2 Plat., W.D. 80GB SE harddrive, True 550 power supply, Yamaha true burn, 1.44 floppy, 120 fan front, two 80's rear, Running 333/166, Both running at 333/166 3DMark Nforce2 15,000+ or -, KT400 12,800+or -, KT400 has a Ti 4200, Harddrive N2 381.07MB/s Cached, 3.41MB/s Uncached, KT400 Cached 581.85 Cached, 3.70 Uncached, Memory 5495MB/s N2, 5485 KT400, Both computers are set up right and yes this is one of the best KT400 boards I have ever messed with, But all in all I still say the two are very close with the new drivers

 

[MARMADUKE]

KT600?.. LMAO... FORGET A BOUT IT!
via and sis know very well that they cannot stay in the game with the big boys, via is just about spent already and sis will quickly follow!
the contenders:
rdram vrs ddr2
nvidia & AMD
intel & ATI

 

[DoubleL]

I don't want to edit again but the Yamaha and 120 fan and 550 power supply is in the KT400, Nforce2 has a dual 80's in the front and a 350 watt, Makes little diff. I have been in the Army for 37 years and have my mind on something else

 

[NicColt]

>Just saw that ABIT is also NOT going to release a KT400A product. X-BIT labs reporting again.

It doesn't really matter wether some companies release one or not, for them it's probably just a minor production decision based on NDA's or release dates. The CE 8237 stepping is just one above the CD that's going into the 400A. Put it this way EVEN if there were KT600 in mass production today and available retail it wouldn't make any difference since the CE stepping is (mainly) only there to support 400 FSB Bartons which aren't even out yet. So saying that the KT600 is late is just wrong, the KT600 will be here when the 400 FSB Bartons are released, releasing it before that time doesn't make any sense. I could just see people saying "finally I got a KT600 and then plopping a 2800 in it."

>via is just about spent already and sis will quickly follow!
>the contenders:
>rdram vrs ddr2
>nvidia & AMD
>intel & ATI

oh c'mon ..... 845G/GL chipset crashes peoples' machines. Is this what you call the 'Big Boys'

>may now release an revised NF2 as well and then that must be taken into account.

yea..... the battle never ends. Now what to do with my KT133 A7V board that's been running 24/7 for three straight years. (ok it crashed once but it was my fault)

all that said the Gigabyte 7VAXP-A Ultra KT400A is starting to look good.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

C'mon guys... the future of chipsets is obvious. It all comes down to efficiency.

The future is complete integration of functions on-board. Integrated video will be the norm - even for enthusiasts. You are already seeing that trend begin with the nForce2 IGP, and the Xbox -which is, for all purposes, a PC.

nVidia has partnered up with AMD.
ATi has a similar partnership with Intel.
Via can only survive if it developes a compelling product in both the CPU and GPU arena.
SiS is out in the cold.

 

[kursplat]

i love this thread , for me it's going to come down to whats out the day i go get a new MB . if the 400A is out and looking good i might flip a coin. i just hope everyones keeping a copy of their predictions on who's going to be road kill in this market so they can see what they really thought vs what they thought they said.
thanks for the opinons all

 

[NicColt]

>the future of chipsets is obvious. It all comes down to efficiency.

very well said, but I would also add 'stability' I would sacrafice %5 in performance for an ultra stable board/chipset. When it comes down to it most of the recent chipsets running at stock values are very very stable.

 

[Soulkeeper]

hahahaha I wouldn't sacrefice performance for anything muahahaha
all i need is one lucky boot and no bad luck for like 3 minutes to run my benchmarks then it can crash all it wants
muahahahahha

 

[thehandler]

Am I the only one who desn't understand that last post? mike

 

[Remedy]

Originally posted by: thehandler
Am I the only one who desn't understand that last post? mike

You are not alone. I feel, for this hardware community in the future.

 

[Soulkeeper]

heh

 

[Jmman]

I also have a KT400 board (7VAXP) and from what I have seen the performance of the Nforce2 Platform is only marginally better due the configuration of my setup. For me the 5-10% increase in performance(if that) of the Nforce2 Platform is not really that enticing until we see the 400MHZ FSB Bartons come out. Then I will make a decision on upgrading. Furthermore, I have an ATA RAID 0 setup which I could not use on any of the Nforce2 mobos that I have seen. I was kind of interested in the Gigabyte kt400a, but it doesn't look like it will be have the overclocking features I am looking for like a PCI/AGP lock.....

 

[WetWilly]

the future of chipsets is obvious. It all comes down to efficiency

Not if you're an OEM - it comes down to cost. Who do you think still buys all of those TNT2-M64's? That's also why I wouldn't count SiS out yet either. If they can keep pulling off stuff like the 655 (roughly Granite Bay performance for roughly 1/2 the price) they can survive quite nicely.

 

[First]

Our Gigabyte 7VAXP-A Ultra (KT400A) review was just posted. Find it here.

 

[Remedy]

Good job Evan. You're not as Bitter as you first were when the KT400A was first announced.

 

[Soulkeeper]

geez gigabyte sucks
i liked the review tho
it seems like all the other reviews showed kt400a chipset atleast winning some of the benchmarks
that board wasn't even competitive toward the single channel nforce configuration, unless you consider price
yeah via needs dual channel and lots of new ideas for prefetch stuff and buffers

good job

 

[pillage2001]

Nice review. Seems that VIA did an OKAY job with the new chipset but it still lacks behind the nforce2.

 

[sequoia464]

... I would have been so bummed if I had held off on getting an nForce2 board any longer and then these results came rolling in.... And no 1/6 divider... what is VIA thinking???

 

[Remedy]

Evan, has Aopen responded to a KT400A board request as seen here? listed?

 

[Remedy]

Evan, wake up.

 

[First]

Originally posted by: ReMeDy{WcS}
Evan, has Aopen responded to a KT400A board request as seen here? listed?

Nope, not yet. I'll see about getting one.

Originally posted by: ReMeDy{WcS}
Evan, wake up.

I'm up!

 

[k3a3g3e]

Is there any info on the SOYO Dragon KT400A? I've been waiting for this board for quite a while...I am desperately hoping it comes out this week. I know you stated that you don't know if they are sending a board or not, but I just thought I'd take a chance.

 

[k3a3g3e]

Anything? There should have been something posted in a week

 

[k3a3g3e]

Well, No KT400A from Soyo.

Thank you for your inquiry. Soyo decided to cancel our project for KT400A,
instead we are planning to release KT600 Dragon 2 motherboard by late Late
June time frame.


----- Original Message -----
From: -------------------To: <sales@soyousa.com>
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 4:04 PM
Subject: KT400A Release


> I would like to know if the KT400A Dragon Ultra motherboard for the
AMD
> AthlonXP based systems will be released soon. I understand it was supposed
> to be released in late April, but now it is almost late May and I am still
> waiting.
>
> Please get back to me, Thank You.

 

[First]

I have AOpen and DFI KT400A boards here, but they're using the 8235 South Bridge. It has just been revealed to me that tier one motherboard makers will have their KT600 motherboards with 8237 South Bridges going into MP (mass production) by the end of June or first week of July (at least, that's what these manufacturers are estimating right now).