Video Card Advice for 240 Watt PSU

[UnderPantKnome]

Hello,

I've read some reviews the Radeon HD 7750 Low Profile can run on a 240 Watt PSU or lower. Others say you need a higher Watt PSU.

I'm not too well informed about computers, and would like some more opinions.
Just want to play some older games, nothing too demanding.

This is the card I'd like to get
http://www.amazon.com/VisionTek-Prod.../dp/B008RLHFQ6

Below are my specs from PC Wizard 2013. Any help its greatly appreciated.
Thank you.

HP Compaq 8200 Elite Small Form Factor
Windows 7 Pro
HP 1495
Intel Q67
Core I5 2500 3300 Mhz
4GB DDR3-SDRAM
1 TB SATA Hard Drive
HP DVD ROM Drive

 

[Blue_Max]

The eXtreme Power Supply Calculator puts you at a recommended 219W (despite using less than that.)

Switching to the much faster GTX 750 (also available in low-profile for your machine) would use 11W more than that, putting you at 230W recommended... that much closer to the redline.

If you don't use it 24/7, you could go with the GTX 750 and even undervolt it a tad... but I'm pretty sure you'll be quite all right. They're even close to the same price, depending on where you live.

Compare: http://anandtech.com/bench/product/1140?vs=1131

 

[blastingcap]

At just 240W I'd play it safe and stick strictly to video cards that have NO external power connectors. That means only cards that get all of their power from the PCIe slot itself.

 

[Blue_Max]

At just 240W I'd play it safe and stick strictly to video cards that have NO external power connectors. That means only cards that get all of their power from the PCIe slot itself.

...like the 7750 and GTX 750 in question.

 

[UnderPantKnome]

Thanks for the suggestion.

I just to need decide between 7750 or 750
Do I have to be concern about the capacitor aging on the PSU ?
Too bad I can't upgrade it, I'd done some research and the psu/motherboard is proprietary.

The company I work at is upgrading their hardware, and they gave me this computer.
I don't want to throw it out, and get a whole new computer. This one way is better than my old desktop.

 

[Blue_Max]

You could always steal the mobo/cpu/ram/cooler and put those parts in a new case with new PSU and bigger video card... but now you're spending a bunch more money.

The Zotac GTX 750 would be a single $100 purchase and would be "pretty good" for most games.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

I just to need decide between 7750 or 750

From a pure performance perspective the 750(TI) is the best you can do if you're limited to what the PCIe slot provides (75W). You might as well get a stock 750TI (60W), it only uses a additional 5W compared to the regular 750non-TI (55W). For additional power savings get a low-profile 750TI, those tend to use a bit less power.

I don't think the 240W PSU will be a problem, the 2500 is only rated for 95W, and it should use less then that if you disable the the IGP.

 

[Deders]

Can you give me all the Amperage ratings for each rail, could be on the side of your PSU.

 

[UnderPantKnome]

Can you give me all the Amperage ratings for each rail, could be on the side of your PSU.

Attached is a screenshot of the PSU. Sorry I've no idea what I'm looking at.
Seem like a cheap generic brand, not sure if I should take a chance.



Will the GTX 750 Low Profile inside the case ?
The card installe is an HD 5450 LP

 

[Deders]

nm

 

[UnderPantKnome]

Sorry about that.
It just show....

+12 Vsb -- 1.3A
-12 V -- 0.15A
+12 VMain -- 16A
+12 Vcpu -- 16A

+12 Main & +12 Cpu shall not exceed 240W

 

[Insert_Nickname]

Will the GTX 750 Low Profile inside the case ?
The card installe is an HD 5450 LP

If that's a low-profile card, then it looks like you're limited to those. Luckily there are a few available low-profile 750TIs on the market.

This one should fit:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-680-_-Product

Sorry about that.
It just show....

+12 Vsb -- 1.3A
-12 V -- 0.15A
+12 VMain -- 16A
+12 Vcpu -- 16A

+12 Main & +12 Cpu shall not exceed 240W

16A on the 12V rail is actually pretty decent. It shouldn't be a problem. Also since there is already a HD5450 in there, we can assume the slot can handle the 19W TDP. So in effect you'll only be drawing an additional 41W for the 750TI.

 

[UnderPantKnome]

If that's a low-profile card, then it looks like you're limited to those. Luckily there are a few available low-profile 750TIs on the market.

This one should fit:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-680-_-Product

Just a few question...

I'm also looking at the ZOTEC 1GB Version which cost about $40 less.
Which would you recommend between this or the Gigabyte 2GB ?
Any big difference in performance or games that require 2GB memory ?

Thanks again for everyone's input.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814500332

 

[Insert_Nickname]

Just a few question...

I'm also looking at the ZOTEC 1GB Version which cost about $40 less.
Which would you recommend between this or the Gigabyte 2GB ?
Any big difference in performance or games that require 2GB memory ?

Thanks again for everyone's input.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814500332

First of all, the Zotac is a standard non-TI 750. The TI gives you an additional SMX (non-TI has 512ShaderProcessors, TI has 640SP) and higher core clocks. So the TI has better performance. As for memory, that depends on what resolution your monitor is. 1GB should be fine at or below 900p. At 1080p I'd recommend 2GB as games are beginning to make use of high resolution textures, that require more memory.

 

[Denithor]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7764/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-750-ti-and-gtx-750-review-maxwell/22

Scroll down, look at the power consumption charts. Under load in Crysis 3 the GTX 750 Ti system uses around 180W of power. That's for the whole system - which includes an i7 4960X @ 4.2GHz, X79 motherboard, 32GB of fast RAM, etc. Your system is going to use far, far less power than the one they used for this testing.

Buy the GTX 750 Ti, you'll be happy.

EDIT: Looking a little closer, you have a SFF case - meaning it's narrower/shorter than normal cases. You will have to get a low profile video card in order to fit your case, something like this Gigabyte card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125680

EDIT2: I would also HIGHLY recommend buying an SSD drive to use as your boot & game drive. Keep the 1TB spinner for storage. Either of these should be excellent:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820226236
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148693

With these two changes, you will convert that mid-range office PC into a pretty capable gaming machine.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

EDIT2: I would also HIGHLY recommend buying an SSD drive to use as your boot & game drive. Keep the 1TB spinner for storage. Either of these should be excellent:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820226236
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148693

With these two changes, you will convert that mid-range office PC into a pretty capable gaming machine.

If you have the budget for it, that is an excellent idea. I wholeheartedly agree...

If you don't, its easy to add an SSD later.

 

[tweakboy]

YOu need a 450w at least.

 

[Calista]

I know this is an old thread, but since I have tried it myself I guess I should give some input.

My PC is the HP 8200 SFF with a 240W power supply, having replaced the 3.5" HDD with a SSD and removing the optical drive entirely. I also have an extra PCI-e gigabit card. The CPU is the i5-2400 and I'm running with 4 RAM sticks.

The issue with the SFF model is its 16x PCIe-slot is only specified to supply 25W of power, as compared to 75 for a desktop and tower version of the same computer.

Still, I bought a Gigabyte GTX 750 Ti and it works very well and the maximum power draw I have seen when gaming is ~130W, giving ample of headroom considering the PSU can supply twice at much. So it seems the low power limit stated in the spec-sheet has little to do with reality.

This is the card: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5160#sp

 

[Calista]

I know this is an old thread, but since I have tried it myself I guess I should give some input.

My PC is the HP 8200 SFF with a 240W power supply, having replaced the 3.5" HDD with a SSD and removing the optical drive entirely. I also have an extra PCI-e gigabit card. The CPU is the i5-2400 and I'm running with 4 RAM sticks.

The issue with the SFF model is its 16x PCIe-slot is only specified to supply 25W of power, as compared to 75 for a desktop and tower version of the same computer.

Still, I bought a Gigabyte GTX 750 Ti and it works very well and the maximum power draw I have seen when gaming is ~130W, giving ample of headroom considering the PSU can supply twice at much. So it seems the low power limit stated in the spec-sheet has little to do with reality.

This is the card: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5160#sp

 

[Techhog]

I know this is an old thread, but since I have tried it myself I guess I should give some input.

My PC is the HP 8200 SFF with a 240W power supply, having replaced the 3.5" HDD with a SSD and removing the optical drive entirely. I also have an extra PCI-e gigabit card. The CPU is the i5-2400 and I'm running with 4 RAM sticks.

The issue with the SFF model is its 16x PCIe-slot is only specified to supply 25W of power, as compared to 75 for a desktop and tower version of the same computer.

Still, I bought a Gigabyte GTX 750 Ti and it works very well and the maximum power draw I have seen when gaming is ~130W, giving ample of headroom considering the PSU can supply twice at much. So it seems the low power limit stated in the spec-sheet has little to do with reality.

This is the card: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5160#sp

Do you seriously think this guy is still looking for a card? :|

 

[Deders]

I don't see anything wrong in this case, if someone googles it then it would just confirm the answer to the thread. Although I'd want to be sure that it actually works with games without the PSU powering the system off.

 

[bononos]

Thanks for the suggestion.

I just to need decide between 7750 or 750
Do I have to be concern about the capacitor aging on the PSU ?
Too bad I can't upgrade it, I'd done some research and the psu/motherboard is proprietary.

The company I work at is upgrading their hardware, and they gave me this computer.
I don't want to throw it out, and get a whole new computer. This one way is better than my old desktop.

Definitely get the 750 or 750ti ddr5, its newer and faster and doesn't take more power.

$105 750ti zotac
http://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce...TF8&qid=1452943250&sr=1-4&keywords=nvidia+750

 

[tweakboy]

With that PSU you can play 0 games LOL ,,, Especially if its a 750 or whatever the thread above said,,, thx, gl

 

[tweakboy]

Grab a 9800 GT nvidia. gl

 

[UnderPantKnome]

I'm sorry should have report back with an update. I purchased the Gigabyte 750TI Low Profile back in 2014, and this card work perfectly for my computer.... I removed the cover to allow more airflow.

With an additional 4GB Ram, and I can run games from few years ago like Need For Speed series, Assassins Creed, Bioshock, etc. I'm not sure how this card will fare with current new titles.

My PSU is still the same 240 Watts.... this card is perfect for those OEM PC's.
For anyone still interested, it's currently $125 at Amazon & Newegg.