Video card Geforce 7600GT

Matmi

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Hello,

based on many reviews and opinions (here and on other forums), I think I'm going to go for the nVidia Geforce 7600GT. Even if I'm not a gamer, I need the 2 DVI-I ports and may also need dual DVI-I in the future.

What do you think of this specific model : eVGA Geforce 7600GT 256MB PCI-E (ref : 256-P2-N554-AX) wth dual DVI-I ?

Thanks for your help !
 
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Originally posted by: Matmi
Is it noisy ?

Noise is relative but all the 7600GTs are considered pretty noisy. My XFX sounded like a jet engine when I went to play a game so I replaced the stock cooler with a Zalman VF700-Cu and it is very quiet now...even on the 12v setting. My temps are also about 10-12 degrees C lower at idle and full load then the stock cooler was.
 

CKXP

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if you're not a gamer and prefer silence then a 7300gt or 7600gs might be a cheaper alternative to a 7600gt. there a several passive heatsink models available with dual DVI ports for the 7300gt or 7600gs.

 

BernardP

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If you are not a gamer, no need to go with the 7600GT, as, basically, you won't be using the 3-D features of this card. A 7600GS will be more than enough, and still allow for decent gaming should the need arise.

This 7600GS from MSI has a quiet fan and Dual-DVI

And if you are ready to sacrifice more 3-D gaming power, you could go with a 7300GT. It has the same core as the 7600 GT and GS, with disabled 3-D pipelines.

This passively-cooled model from XFX has Dual-DVI

There is no performance penalty in using a 7600GS or 7300GT if the card will only be used for 2-D work, including hi-definition video.

(OK...They supposedly won't be able to handle Inverse Telecine...Something only the diehard home theater enthusiasts worry about)
 

Matmi

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Thanks for the replies and links.

The 7600GS is definitely fine for my needs (you are right, no game at all) but I can't find any 7600GS with 2 DVI ports, at least not on Directron.com (I have to buy everything there as they will assemble my PC, since I'm a complete beginner and too scared to do it myself).

If I can't find any, I'll go with the Gigabyte 7600GT, even if it hurts to pay such a price for a video card that will not be used to its full capacity (although I don't want a dog that won't run Vista).

Thanks !
 

Matmi

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Our posts crossed each other, BernardP. I'll try to find the MSI on Directron's web site.

Thanks.
 

BernardP

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Originally posted by: Matmi
Our posts crossed each other, BernardP. I'll try to find the MSI on Directron's web site.

Thanks.
They do have the MSI 7600GS w/fan, but not the XFX 7300GT. I am sure you will be happy with the MSI 7600GS.
 

Matmi

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Isn't the fan going to generate too much noise, compared to "heatsink only" model ?
 

BernardP

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Originally posted by: Matmi
Isn't the fan going to generate too much noise, compared to "heatsink only" model ?
A passive heatsink has of course zero noise, but will always run hotter, much hotter in certain cases, which might not be the best thing for stability/longevity. The fan on the MSI 7600 GS is said to be very quiet, and certainly markedly quieter than the reference fan on the 7600 GT. I have not been able to find a review of the MSI 7600 GS with fan, but have found this one of the MSI 6600 Ares, which has the exact same fan. "Whisper Quiet" are the words used in this article:

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?id=1852&cid=3&pg=11

A closer view of the heatsink/fan:

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?id=1852&cid=3&pg=2

It is understandable that such a heatsink/fan is quiet, because of its larger diameter, slower speed and open design.

 

skinnyj

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so what about someone that doesnt care a whole lot about noise, which is the best 7600gt? and has a great cooler stock?
 
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Originally posted by: skinnyj
so what about someone that doesnt care a whole lot about noise, which is the best 7600gt? and has a great cooler stock?

Either the EVGA KO Edition or the XFX XXX Edition...all of the stock coolers are pretty much the same.
 

Matmi

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Thanks, BernardP, for having taken the time to look for reviews for me.

I'll review the price difference with the 7600GT and, if substantial and if indeed the absence of a fan could create heat issues, I'll go with the MSI 7600GS.
 

Bill Kunert

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Originally posted by: GeeFizzleDizzle
Originally posted by: skinnyj
so what about someone that doesnt care a whole lot about noise, which is the best 7600gt? and has a great cooler stock?

Either the EVGA KO Edition or the XFX XXX Edition...all of the stock coolers are pretty much the same.


MSI Has a 7600GT using a large fan(takes 2 slots) which either intakes outside air or exhausts to the outside. Looks like an arctic cooling type unit. I believe it runs at 590MHz. Newegg has it and it may still have a rebate on it. I've seen reviews and it scores well and is quite quiet.

Bill
 

BernardP

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Just to complicate things a little more for you Matmi , there is soon gonna be a significant price drop for the GeForce 7600 line, as NVidia has to counter the "new" $99 ATI X1650 Pro (X1600XT refresh) and still-to-be-announced X1650XT, due in mid-september.

The just-around-the-corner syndrome strikes again.
 

Matmi

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Good that I'm not in a rush... Thanks for the tip, BernardP, I'll wait a few more weeks to see this price drop.

If at least I could determine which exact card I want... I know I need 2 DVI ports and I thought I did not want a fan (since I'm not going to push the card to its limits (no games), a heatsink should be good enough) but you said it may create heat issues, which is not good either...

I wonder why some companies manufacture card with no fan, if it creates heat problems ?
 

BernardP

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Originally posted by: Matmi
If at least I could determine which exact card I want... I know I need 2 DVI ports and I thought I did not want a fan (since I'm not going to push the card to its limits (no games), a heatsink should be good enough) but you said it may create heat issues, which is not good either...

I wonder why some companies manufacture card with no fan, if it creates heat problems ?

The reference-model 7600GS, with the big black heatsink, runs very hot, but still stays inside the maximum allowed by NVidia.

Here are some temperatures from a MSI 7600GS that uses the passive reference heatsink. No wonder MSI decided to release another 7600GS model with a fan (the one I suggested previously)

If you want to buy a passive heatsink model now, you can get this one, because it is one of the few 7600GS with Dual-DVI. For your usage, it won't run as hot, because without using its 3-D abilities, required for gaming, the core and memory won't work very hard and will produce less heat. But it will always run hotter than the fanned model.

There are passively cooled 7600GS with better designed heatsinks, from Asus and Gigabyte, which have much better thermal performance than the reference model. But these cards don't have Dual-DVI, only one DVI plus analog VGA.

Also, the XFX 7300GT w Dual-DVI I have suggested above has fewer pipelines and is clocked slower than the 7600GS, yet it has the same reference cooler. So this card certainly runs cooler that the 7600GS. (Not available on Directron, though)

From what I have read, I expect that before the end of September, NVidia will release an updated 7650 series, as they have recently announced a GeForce 7950GT card to supercede the 7900GT. No way to know, for now, the details of the 7650 series, and if/when the 7600 models will be discontinued. However, it is certain that the changes will translate into improvements to the price/performance ratio.

So if you have decided to wait, you will probably be able to see what the new GeForce 7650 models have to offer.

 

Matmi

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Thanks again, BernardP, that's VERY helpful.

The article you linked in your post is very clear about the issues raised by the absence of fan.

I think I'm going to give up on the "no fan" stuff but I definitely need the 2 DVI ports. I'll continue to look for a quiet card (but with a fan) and 2 DVI ports...
 

Matmi

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Well, even if I only have 1 monitor now, I'll have 2 pretty soon and I find that, at least for my current monitor, the quality is better when it's on the DVI port than when it's on the VGA one.

Could I live with 1 DVI and 1 VGA ? Sure. But if I could get 2 DVIs, it's better.
 

Matmi

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No, typically one with Photoshop, the other one with a organizing software (like AcdSee).

Agreed, the second one is fine too if in VGA but better if connected through the DVI port.
 
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