Video: Google Now Schools Siri

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dagamer34

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This is a ridiculous comparison. Every question is ridiculous and straightforward. Of course a robot understand them. He never gets beyond this. Do call Round 2 difficult questions is just dumb. Why didn't he try actual complex commands, instead of his weaksauce 'Round 2'?

Things like:
'Remind me to pick up lettuce when I leave work'
'I need directions to the closest grocery store'
'Send message to Kim that I'll be home soon'
'I want to go see 'Brave'

These are actual tough questions, not robotic ones that he chose

This is also comparing iOS 5 to Jellybean instead of iOS 6. Here is what I get on iOS 6 when I ask 'Did the Yankees win?'



Epic Fail. Why compare a 1 year old OS to a 1 week old one?

The video does point out that iOS 6 shows sports scores, however there's a difference between comparing beta software (iOS 6) and software that's available now (Android 4.1). Considering iOS 6 may not be out for another 2-3 months, it's still a valid comparison (legally the only way to get access to iOS6 on a device is to sign the developer NDA).
 

TuxDave

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That's what I noticed as well. I rarely used Voice Action before because I could never really remember the commands. But with Google Now, I'm using it more because I can speak naturally and it seems to understand and perform better. And everything seems faster and more responsive, input and output.

I guess you finally get why people like Siri. When you can ask for stuff the way you normally talk, it becomes useful.
 

jpeyton

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Why compare a 1 year old OS to a 1 week old one?
Because both are the newest shipping operating systems available from each respective company.

If I go to store.apple.com and order a iPhone 4S, it will arrive with iOS 5.1.1.

If I go to play.google.com and order a Galaxy Nexus, it will arrive with Android 4.1.

That's typically how product reviews are done: based on the currently available ship-to-retail product.
 

ponyo

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I guess you finally get why people like Siri. When you can ask for stuff the way you normally talk, it becomes useful.

True, but it needs to be accurate and fast to be truly useful. Suri doesn't have accuracy or speed. Google Now still needs to work on accuracy too but it has the speed.
 

cheezy321

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Because both are the newest shipping operating systems available from each respective company.

If I go to store.apple.com and order a iPhone 4S, it will arrive with iOS 5.1.1.

If I go to play.google.com and order a Galaxy Nexus, it will arrive with Android 4.1.

That's typically how product reviews are done: based on the currently available ship-to-retail product.

The funny thing about your point is I bet there are more people using iOS 6 than Jellybean right now.
 

Phokus

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Isn't Siri only on the Iphone 4S and Ipad 3? Even the Nexus S is getting the upgrades to google voice. Talk about fragmentation... on the ios platform.
 

cheezy321

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Isn't Siri only on the Iphone 4S and Ipad 3? Even the Nexus S is getting the upgrades to google voice. Talk about fragmentation... on the ios platform.

What about the 95%+ that arent on a nexus phone? What about them?

What actual percentage of android users are getting the upgrades to Google voice?
 

TuxDave

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Isn't Siri only on the Iphone 4S and Ipad 3? Even the Nexus S is getting the upgrades to google voice. Talk about fragmentation... on the ios platform.

It's a different type of fragmentation and since Siri isn't open for the app developers to mess around with, that TYPE of fragmentation is a non-issue. I can't recall one of the good examples of iOS fragmentation, it was something along the lines that they wish everyone was on iOS5 (vs iOS4) so they could use some new method or API.

True, but it needs to be accurate and fast to be truly useful. Suri doesn't have accuracy or speed. Google Now still needs to work on accuracy too but it has the speed.

I think it goes beyond accurate and fast. The speed of Siri is decent for me. If it responds to a complicated request in 5s or so, it's good enough for me. There are some usage problems that I found in my first week that I was surprised to see they're fixing in iOS6. Siri didn't understand sports so asking Siri "when is the next SF Giants game" was terribad. I think it will take some time to evolve to hit all the corner cases.

"Where is the nearest Walmart?"
>> Siri shows a list of Walmarts near me sorted by distance
"When does the closest one close today"
>> FAIL

Curious to see how Google Voice Now responds.
 

cheezy321

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Can someone test out the new version of google voice with the commands I posted above? I am curious to see how it handles those. Does google voice do geofencing reminders yet? Can you look up showtimes yet or just movie theaters? Will it text someone accurately by just using their first name? Can it go beyond just a list of grocery stores and actually give me directions to the closest one?

Here they are again:
'Remind me to pick up lettuce when I leave work'
'I need directions to the closest grocery store'
'Send message to Kim that I'll be home soon'
'I want to go see 'Brave'
 

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I'd just like to point out the new voice in GVC sounds amazingly human. It makes Siri sound robotic and artificial.
 

Red Storm

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I'd just like to point out the new voice in GVC sounds amazingly human. It makes Siri sound robotic and artificial.

Yes. Was using Navigation yesterday and I really liked the new voice, sounds very natural. It's come a long ways since the first iteration.
 

Puddle Jumper

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Can someone test out the new version of google voice with the commands I posted above? I am curious to see how it handles those. Does google voice do geofencing reminders yet? Can you look up showtimes yet or just movie theaters? Will it text someone accurately by just using their first name? Can it go beyond just a list of grocery stores and actually give me directions to the closest one?

Here they are again:
'Remind me to pick up lettuce when I leave work'
'I need directions to the closest grocery store'
'Send message to Kim that I'll be home soon'
'I want to go see 'Brave'

The last one of those is pointless, any adult would ask for tickets for a movie.
 
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Can someone test out the new version of google voice with the commands I posted above? I am curious to see how it handles those. Does google voice do geofencing reminders yet? Can you look up showtimes yet or just movie theaters? Will it text someone accurately by just using their first name? Can it go beyond just a list of grocery stores and actually give me directions to the closest one?

Here they are again:
'Remind me to pick up lettuce when I leave work'
'I need directions to the closest grocery store'
'Send message to Kim that I'll be home soon'
'I want to go see 'Brave'

Yes to all of that. Actually, Voice commands, which has been around since the beginning, could already do most of that.
 

cheezy321

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Yes to all of that. Actually, Voice commands, which has been around since the beginning, could already do most of that.

Ive never read once where it says google voice does geofenced reminders. Please show me this in action or point to an article that proves this.
 
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Ive never read once where it says google voice does geofenced reminders. Please show me this in action or point to an article that proves this.

The videos posted around the thread already show the functionality you ask of it,

Also I JUST did those commands into stock Google Voice Commands. Not even Google Now.

'Remind me to pick up lettuce when I leave work' - Doesn't work in stock Voice. I can do this fine in Tasker though. And tasker is about 100000x more powerful than anything Siri can do.

'I need directions to the closest grocery store'- Opened up navigation app with directions to nearby grocery stores

'Send message to Kim that I'll be home soon'- Opened Messaging app with message prewritten to the reciever.

'I want to go see 'Brave'- Opened up Google search website and was able to click on a link to Brave.
 
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vshah

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google voice actions/google now doesn't do geofencing. hopefully they'll add it, or open the voice api so apps like tasker or locale can tie in to it.
 

cheezy321

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The videos posted around the thread already show the functionality you ask of it,

Also I JUST did those commands into stock Google Voice Commands. Not even Google Now.

'Remind me to pick up lettuce when I leave work' - Doesn't work in stock Voice. I can do this fine in Tasker though. And tasker is about 100000x more powerful than anything Siri can do.

'I need directions to the closest grocery store'- Opened up navigation app with directions to nearby grocery stores

'Send message to Kim that I'll be home soon'- Opened Messaging app with message prewritten to the reciever.

'I want to go see 'Brave'- Opened up Google search website and was able to click on a link to Brave.

Unless you press one button on the phone, say 'Remind me to pick up lettuce when I leave work' and it will create a geofence reminder for you to do so it is not a valid comparison. Does tasker even do voice commands in a similar vein to google voice commands and siri? Why are you even bringing it up?
 

fierydemise

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More like bought a competing technology that may or may not have predated Google's functionality, and released it with more polish and usability (at the time) than Google's tech. Google has answered, we move forward and things get a little better.
I was attempting to make a tongue in cheek remark about google's perpetual beta nonsense. Clearly that did not come across as well as intended.
 
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Unless you press one button on the phone, say 'Remind me to pick up lettuce when I leave work' and it will create a geofence reminder for you to do so it is not a valid comparison. Does tasker even do voice commands in a similar vein to google voice commands and siri? Why are you even bringing it up?

The Butthurt in this post is amazing.
 
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So when you are proven dead wrong you resort to an insult. Nice job, phandroid.

No. I'm pointing out how obscenely insulted you seem when Android already has most the features that you're touting from the very beginning against iOS. And for the one feature it DOESNT have, which of course you zero on because you have no argument, we already have an infinitely more powerful tool to do such actions.
 

cheezy321

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No. I'm pointing out how obscenely insulted you seem when Android already has most the features that you're touting from the very beginning against iOS. And for the one feature it DOESNT have, which of course you zero on because you have no argument, we already have an infinitely more powerful tool to do such actions.

You are wrong and you wont admit it. You try and fit a square peg into a round hole. At least vshah comes in here and proves what I said: Google voice actions does not do geofence reminders. It doesn't. End of story. Nothing you can say or twist will change this.

You are the one trying to change the conversation to something that we aren't even talking about. This is the reason why there aren't many apple users in this forum. It's all a bunch of apple haters throwing all the shit on the wall and hoping something sticks, then insulting the apple users in the process. You have proven my exact point.
 
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