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Originally posted by: DaTT
Congratulations....that is the first video I have EVER had to shut off. I am desensitized to most things. I have watched videos of executions, beheadings......for some reason, after the racoon got skinned alive, I had to turn it off.

 

Jfrag Teh Foul

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Jul 18, 2001
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Cruelty to people (rape, murder, violence, etc.): Well... maybe he is mentally damaged from his childhood we shouldn't kill them or make them suffer... ad infinitum.

Cruelty to animals (as seen in this video): THEY MUST DIAF!

BTW, These bastards should be shot, PETA can suck it.
 

Viperoni

Lifer
Jan 4, 2000
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There's something odd about the video though.

If in the video people can be heard talking along with other noises, why would the sound of the animals crying of pain not be heard?

Of course the racoon is flailing around... but it's not screaming or making any noises...
 

Robor

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Taejin
Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: Taejin
Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: Taejin
Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Any person who would skin an animal while it's conscious deserves the same.
I agree 100%. The part I watched before turning it off was absolutely sickening. I think a lot of what PETA says and the way they say it are often extreme but this is a perfect example of why I'm not one of the PETA hating morons who bash them regardless of the issue.

Human > Animal. Don't equate them as being the same thing.

No one gets the death penalty for torturing an animal.

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. IMO people who do things like that shouldn't be considered human.


Good luck trying to convince the law that. Whether your opinion states that people who skin animals for fun shouldn't be considered human is moot. Our reality reflects that the death/torture of humans is more harshly punished than that of an animal, and your opinion is nothing but the seedlings of vigilantism.

Seriously? Humans have more rights than animals? Are you sure? Gosh, I never would've imagined that. :roll:

Stop trying to defend the actions of sick and cruel people. You sound like a freaking defense attorney. :disgust:

Well, unfortunately, I do not have the knee-jerk reactions that you seem to be accustomed to. Everything requires a bit of objective and impartial examination, and your type of edging away from reason ends up with no ground for support, and only your biased, self-serving morality.

I attempted to interject a bit of reason into the conversation. The video was obviously framed in order to appeal to the most unreasonable part of human nature. Although I agree that the video is inhumane and the practices misguided as well as cruel, there is absolutely no justification in rbloedow saying quote, "Any person who would skin an animal while it's conscious deserves the same". Our law system is not based on vengeance, but punishment. The punishment is scaled accordingly to the crime, and our law is pretty clear that humans are more important than animals.

Also, you may diss the "defense attorney" since it's hip and trendy to do so - but lawyers bring more benefits to our society than ills. While our system may not be perfect, it allows for some semblance of fair trial by the state and judging by our peers. Maybe you'll remmeber that next time you or someone you care for has to stand trial for some reason. Maybe "freaking defense attorney" will save your narrowminded ass.

Also, PETA is worthless. The video is genuine, but the entire organization is nothing but sensationalism built on sensationalism. Of course, they get a lot of attention, but they get what all extremists/extremist organizations deserve - sidelining by society, and ridiculed constantly. One video misrepresenting the fur industry is not a good way to show people you are reasonable and thoughtful.

EDIT: It's also pretty clear your 6 years at anandtech forums hasn't helped your arguing or reasoning ability at all. It's a wonder you even bother to post.
Your "reason" (law) has nothing to do with my opinion or anyone elses. As I said before, you're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine and just because you don't agree doesn't mean you're right. I wasn't painting the entire fur industry with my comments on this video. I was talking about those individuals in this video and anyone like them and I stand by it.

I'm not a PETA member or supporter. Just because I don't slap a blanket "PETA sucks" to every PETA thread doesn't mean I agree with their methods. If you don't believe me go over my previous posts in this and other threads. I think PETA sometimes has a point but almost always goes about getting that point to the public in the wrong way.

Some semblance of fair trial by the state and judging by our peers? Pfft! That depends on your version of fair. Explain to me why how good your defense is usually comes down to how much money you have? There's a looooong list of rich people who didn't see a day of deserved prison not because they weren't guilty but because they had money to pay their way out of a conviction.

In the future do me a favor and don't put words in my mouth when you quote me.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Watching a woman give birth is graphic as well and would probably be PETA's approach to stop sex.

I am all for ethical treatment of animals/people, but the money behind PETA, and also MADD/SADD is way underused for actual good and just making a few people pretty rich.
 

Connoisseur

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Sep 14, 2002
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Looks more like an East Asian country to me. China maybe? People in more underdeveloped areas of the world tend to not be so squeamish about the way they conduct business. For them, it's all about putting food on the table; they never learned "ethical treatment" and such. Yeah I'll stay a vegetarian, non-fur wearing hippie Indian. If it keeps my conscience clear, i'm happy. I agree that most developed nations probably kill their animals more "humanely". But the point is, they're killed simply for their coat and then discarded. And as for the animals that are killed for food, can someone explain to me how they're killed painlessly? Last I saw, cows were strung upside down and had their calves severed? This was years ago so they might have changed, but that doesn't seem entirely painless to me. Oh well, I'm no one to criticize other people's living habits. I got nothing against meat-eaters/fur wearers. I just can't imagine doing it myself.
 

psebas

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Oct 6, 2004
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I want to buy leather and fur now more than ever!

/inserts middle finger icon.[

YOU ARE A FVCKING ASSHOLE AND I DONT GIVE A SHlT IF I GET TO BE BANNED FOR THIS STATEMENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SKIN YOUR WIFE/GF/DAUGHTER/SON ALIVE AND SEE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BUY IT FOR A SOUVENIR.

GUYS LIKE YOU SHOULD BE SHOT . YOU STUPID FVCKING ASSHOLE PIECE OF SHlT.
CUT YOUR MOM INTO SLICES AND MAKE WHORE'S RICE.

BLOW ME.
 

bcterps

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Aug 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: psebas

YOU ARE A FVCKING ASSHOLE AND I DONT GIVE A SHlT IF I GET TO BE BANNED FOR THIS STATEMENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SKIN YOUR WIFE/GF/DAUGHTER/SON ALIVE AND SEE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BUY IT FOR A SOUVENIR.

GUYS LIKE YOU SHOULD BE SHOT . YOU STUPID FVCKING ASSHOLE PIECE OF SHlT.
CUT YOUR MOM INTO SLICES AND MAKE WHORE'S RICE.

BLOW ME.

See ya.
 

CraigRT

Lifer
Jun 16, 2000
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friggin sick.

i am upset that i have to share the same breathing air with asswipe people like that.
 

oslama

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Jan 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: psebas
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I want to buy leather and fur now more than ever!

/inserts middle finger icon.[

YOU ARE A FVCKING ASSHOLE AND I DONT GIVE A SHlT IF I GET TO BE BANNED FOR THIS STATEMENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SKIN YOUR WIFE/GF/DAUGHTER/SON ALIVE AND SEE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BUY IT FOR A SOUVENIR.

GUYS LIKE YOU SHOULD BE SHOT . YOU STUPID FVCKING ASSHOLE PIECE OF SHlT.
CUT YOUR MOM INTO SLICES AND MAKE WHORE'S RICE.

BLOW ME.

Ditto
 

silverpig

Lifer
Jul 29, 2001
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In grade 3 at my old elementary school they showed us this video on the fur trade way back when. There was still a limited amount allowed to go on and some dudes brought a camera out while doing a seal hunt. Baby seals have this really nice soft furry white coat on them, and what the hunters did was grab one, flip it on it's back, stick a knife into it, peeled it's fur off, and then threw the rest into a huge pile. It was pretty sick.

I've got no problem with some guy taking his kid out hunting, shooting a deer, eating the meat and then making the hide into something, or using the leather from the cow I'm eating anyways to make a jacket or something, but some of that stuff is way too much.
 

Gurck

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Mar 16, 2004
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Hay guyz did u noe tharez sumthyng kalled da 'intarweb'?

Seriously this might be AT's most reposted thing. If you think something's interesting, chances are it's been posted. If you don't read the forum often, chances are you missed it when it was posted. Obviously you missed all 5,000 times this was posted. Stop posting.
 

lokiju

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May 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: Abe Froman
Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: Abe Froman
Originally posted by: toekramp
Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: MrChad
Motion for automatic ban for posting a PETA video

Is anyone going to explain why I should be banned, so I know what not to do? I am not a peta supporter at all, just sharing something I saw, and wanted to see how others would respond!
People don't like PETA.

I don't like Peta, but I think that when things like this are happening, people have a right to know. I find Peta to be pretty ridiculous actually, have any of you seen the Penn and Teller video on Peta?

Good show, I found it interesting how they (PETA) said they'd rather a person die than an animal, also remind me of the Howard Stern episode where the PETA girls got naked and what not to save bugs, just goes to show that the PETA supporters can and do take it waaaay to far.

But this video is very fvcked up and I think that the person that did that is a very sick person.
 

VIAN

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Aug 22, 2003
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That is F'd up. I usually hat PETA and everything they do for being dumbasses.

But mistreating animals for no real pupose it just messed up.
 

CraigRT

Lifer
Jun 16, 2000
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OH MY GOD!
the animal skinless is still alive!

I think I am going to throw up! that is SO disgusting! I want to take pipe cutters to that persons' limbs and slowly turn until each limb is completely detached and he bleeds to death!!!!

JESUS!!!!!!! :|:|:|
 
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