Video of gunman opening fire at Florida school

[Krazy4Real]

I'm glad everyone is ok.

 

[OCNewbie]

read the article. Most of the shots fired were blanks.

read the article

"The superintendent said he believes the gunman used a combination of live bullets and blanks. But police said live bullets were used."

 

[shortylickens]

BAN GUNS NOW!!!
:twisted:

 

[darkxshade]

read the article

"The superintendent said he believes the gunman used a combination of live bullets and blanks. But police said live bullets were used."

Question: Can you tell from the casings if a shell was a blank? If he used a combination, how else could you tell if he didn't use any blanks at all?

 

[JSt0rm]

Question: Can you tell from the casings if a shell was a blank? If he used a combination, how else could you tell if he didn't use any blanks at all?

I would assume the recovered bits of lead from holes in walls and shit would tell them they were not blanks. Unless there are many bullet holes already in the walls.

 

[darkxshade]

I would assume the recovered bits of lead from holes in walls and shit would tell them they were not blanks. Unless there are many bullet holes already in the walls.

That's not the issue. Someone said the shooter used a combination of blanks and live bullets and the police says live bullets were used(but they didn't explicitly say he didn't use blanks). So assuming he did use blanks as well, how would you be able to tell with the bullet holes on the walls due to the live bullets unless the casings are marked to indicate them as such? I don't own a gun so I don't know about these things.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

read the article

"The superintendent said he believes the gunman used a combination of live bullets and blanks. But police said live bullets were used."

yes clearly the bullet in his head wasn't a blank. Thanks I figured that out.

 

[tcsenter]

Although a pitifull display of marksmanship, at 20 feet they were more than twice as far away as in this situation. This was easily inside 10 feet, and he was using a small caliber gun with practically zero recoil. I still say he missed on purpose, he wanted to be shot

Dude, bullets don't take right-hand turns after 10 feet. They all go pretty much straight for at least 25 feet, except for the snub-nosed barrels (which are good for about 10 feet only). If two very experienced shooters (one with formal training) can completely miss after firing two dozen rounds at each from a distance of only six yards, Joe Usual with a screw loose can miss from any distance.

 

[child of wonder]

Time for the TSA to screen everyone, everywhere.

 

[Tweak155]

Intense.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Question: Can you tell from the casings if a shell was a blank? If he used a combination, how else could you tell if he didn't use any blanks at all?

Blanks have a longer casing on them as the ends are crimped in a way as to look like a full bullet so it will feed properly.
I'll dig up some pictures of blanks when I get home.

Dude, bullets don't take right-hand turns after 10 feet. They all go pretty much straight for at least 25 feet, except for the snub-nosed barrels (which are good for about 10 feet only). If two very experienced shooters (one with formal training) can completely miss after firing two dozen rounds at each from a distance of only six yards, Joe Usual with a screw loose can miss from any distance.

Don't talk about guns since you don't know anything about them.
a "snub nose" or 2" barrel is good for more than 10 feet. I can hit what I'm aiming at, at 50 feet with my 2" Taurus .38spc.
OK, looked it up.
9mm drops 3" at 106 yards or 318 feet.

 

[tcsenter]

Don't talk about guns since you don't know anything about them. a "snub nose" or 2" barrel is good for more than 10 feet. I can hit what I'm aiming at, at 50 feet with my 2" Taurus .38spc.

I have forgotten more about guns than you'll ever know. Check the archives in any discussion about guns where I'm present.

9mm drops 3" at 106 yards or 318 feet.

All ballistics data are done assuming a certain barrel length (which correlates with velocity, since the burn-rate of most commercial powders is too slow to achieve typical velocities from a snub nose barrel). How much is the drop at 20 feet?

 

[thegimp03]

Was that Mike Ditka?

 

[BudAshes]

That lady was fucking nuts dude. I can't believe she came at that guy with a bag.

 

[BudAshes]

Was that Mike Ditka?

viagra side effect?

 

[erikistired]

The V from V for Vendetta? Really?

this was my thought. why is he spray painting the V from V for Vendetta on the wall? where is his guy fawkes mask?

also, the end of the video hangs! wtf?!?

 

[BoomerD]

That guy is an excellent example of why anyone who wants to purchase a gun, especially a handgun, should be required to take classes on how to handle a firearm, how to shoot a firearm, and how to hit what you fucking aim at...There is NO excuse for missing all your targets at such close range.

 

[coxmaster]

also, the end of the video hangs! wtf?!?

No, the end doesnt hang. Its censored basically. You really wanted to see him shoot himself in the head?

 

[erikistired]

No, the end doesnt hang. Its censored basically. You really wanted to see him shoot himself in the head?

didn't realize the exchange with the security happened that quickly. i figured he shot wildly, then the video ended. also, i was under the impression he had fallen to the floor before he offed him.

but no, even though i've seen videos of worse things, i probably don't need to see him blow his head off.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Shooting handguns isn't as easy as you may think, especially one handed. It looks like he was drunk or on drugs because how do you shoot the floor???

Two things come to mind when I think of this movie.

1. Lloyd from Dumb and Dumber saying "Harry! You're alive....and you're a terrible shot!"

2. Jules from Pulp Fiction talking about Divine Intervention lol.

It's actually a lot easier than I thought it would be... Made 46/50 shots at various ranges first time I ever shot an m9. I really don't see how you could miss from that range.

If he was trying to shoot them one handed from 30 yards or something I could understand the difficulty. However, from 10 or so feet away it's trivial to hit something no way was he looking to shoot them.

 

[tcsenter]

After watching this video (I had already seen it on TV), Ginger was trying to knock the gun out of his hand with her purse/bag. She isn't going for his back, or head, she actually strikes his gun hand.

 

[gigahertz20]

For those of you still talking about blanks read my post on the 1st page, bullet holes were found behind the school chiefs desk. The guy was just a piss poor shot.

 

[schneiderguy]

You really wanted to see him shoot himself in the head?

Yes :hmm:

 

[FelixDeCat]

where is his guy fawkes mask?

People who wear that mask at events annoy me. But if this man had been wearing the mask, since it was co-opted by Anonymous in 2006, this whole episode was probably just for the lulz.

 

[mugs]

Yes :hmm:

Google up Budd Dwyer.