Video: The most dangerous race in New York City is...

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

bwoody2016

Member
Oct 26, 2009
198
0
0
Black and running from the cops? History has proven...stupid move kid. Best bet would have just been to freeze. Either way hes screwed though, black and running away from cops. Tisk Tisk..
 

amdhunter

Lifer
May 19, 2003
23,324
219
106
You made a statement about how the events occurred. I am asking you if you have evidence to back that up.

None. But I do find it weird that he couldn't flush a "small amount" of marijuana down the toilet in the time it took for those officers to get into the home, which was in the order of a few minutes.
 

chusteczka

Diamond Member
Apr 12, 2006
3,400
1
71
None. But I do find it weird that he couldn't flush a "small amount" of marijuana down the toilet in the time it took for those officers to get into the home, which was in the order of a few minutes.

I agree with this.
 

QueBert

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
22,460
775
126
Black and running from the cops? History has proven...stupid move kid. Best bet would have just been to freeze. Either way hes screwed though, black and running away from cops. Tisk Tisk..

If you consider what the teen did as running and a lot of cops think like you, that means black's are really screwed. He wasn't even close to running. 65 year old's power walk faster than that.

"This is Officer A. Hole, shots fired and perp down, he was evading me at a break neck speed of 3.4mph"
 
Last edited:

yh125d

Diamond Member
Dec 23, 2006
6,907
0
76
None. But I do find it weird that he couldn't flush a "small amount" of marijuana down the toilet in the time it took for those officers to get into the home, which was in the order of a few minutes.

This. It's obviously a possibility that the drugs could have been planted. Seems more likely to me really, that they'd plant it to have at least something to defend their misconduct with, rather than the kid doesn't know how to operate a toilet.


I tried to see how long it took them to break in by the timestamps, but it doesn't show when they actually got in. It'd be interesting to see just exactly how long it took.
 

darkxshade

Lifer
Mar 31, 2001
13,749
6
81
Blue.

Let's see. No warrant. Officers break into home. Officers shoot a Black teenager in the chest.

No charges were pending to the dead teen. He was being followed because "he looked like he had a gun."

Identity of the officers are not being released.

So easy to kill minorities these days.
Want to kill a Black person: become a cop.
Want to kill a Hispanic person: become border patrol.
Want to kill a Brown person: join the military.

It's amazing how much you can get away with wearing a uniform.

When is the person pointing the laser sight at your head going to pull the damn trigger?
 

bwoody2016

Member
Oct 26, 2009
198
0
0
If you consider what the teen did as running and a lot of cops think like you, that means black's are really screwed. He wasn't even close to running. 65 year old's power walk faster than that.

"This is Officer A. Hole, shots fired and perp down, he was evading me at a break neck speed of 3.4mph"

Running, quick movements, sudden movements that could be considered threatening? Yes... Bad move... Trigger happy cops. What happened to tazers? The good ole days of pepper spray?
 

njdevilsfan87

Platinum Member
Apr 19, 2007
2,331
251
126
I agree that he did not deserve to die for being in possession of pot. However, he ran. A chase invokes animal instincts. The chasee becomes scared and the chaser instinctively looks for a way to stop the chasee at any cost, even violence.

Running into a person's home involves danger. The cop was in a dangerous situation motivating an instinctual increase in the level of reaction to that of deadly force.

The kid would still be alive if he had not run.

A chase invokes animal instincts? So does being young and naive and having no idea what to do...

And all over pot? FFS legalize this shit already.
 

amdhunter

Lifer
May 19, 2003
23,324
219
106
Why be biased in your speculation? Lets speculate he had already flushed 50 pounds down the drain and was on his final batch. Really, if we are going to play this game let's at least make it fair. :\

Hiding 50lbs of marijuana in a jacket might be tough. Maybe that's why he was walking! He couldn't run with so much weight in weed!
 

amdhunter

Lifer
May 19, 2003
23,324
219
106
Black and running from the cops? History has proven...stupid move kid. Best bet would have just been to freeze. Either way hes screwed though, black and running away from cops. Tisk Tisk..

He wasn't running. He looked unaware that he was even being followed by the police. :\
 

exdeath

Lifer
Jan 29, 2004
13,679
10
81
Shooting people for getting high now? This has nothing to do with race or blacks and everything to do with this stupid moral high horse "drug war" that has gone on for years. So many civilians and officers alike killed, botched raids, family members shot and killed in the WRONG HOUSES, people accused of being cop killers for defending themselves in a no knock breaking and entering at 3 am...

I'm not a drug user, but I firmly believe everybody has exclusive right to their own bodies and what they do to themselves. If you can get your shit from a legit dealer who doesn't steal or violate the rights of others, and you can pay for it and smoke/shoot it without stealing or violating the rights of others, then where is the fucking problem?

95% of the need for a paramilitary police forces with automatic rifles and armored vehicles along with the "fearful situations" caused by these encounters daily would disappear overnight if this shit wasn't arbitrarily criminalized.
 

Dari

Lifer
Oct 25, 2002
17,134
38
91
Unaware of NYPD following u, your own fault lol...

What are you, some sort of NYPD ball-licker? From the Bay Area too, I see. You must have some glorified idea of the NYPD as a mythical police force that is always chasing the bad guys. How would you like it if police break into your home and shoot you dead because they simply suspected you of doing something, asshole?

From the looks of it, the police here thought they could go into the home and do whatever they please. Considering this cop has been on the force for only 3 years I would say he learned this from his elders on the force. There is no way in hell they would do this where my cousin live, a block away from the UN. There, police are scared shitless to upset the neighbors. But in The Bronx and other place where the poor live, police think they are god or something. If this officer does not get jail time, the people there should burn down that precinct because it is corrupt.
 

Lifted

Diamond Member
Nov 30, 2004
5,752
2
0
He wasn't running. He looked unaware that he was even being followed by the police. :\

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=8531261

"shows graham running down his block, cops following"

Cops stake out bodega due to known drug activity in the area.
Suspect runs when he sees cops (can be seen in link).
Either tries to find place to hide what he has or gets the rest of his drugs in the house and runs to bathroom, in front of cops, to flush down toilet.

The shooting was an accident and would have been prevented if the guy didn't run. I also believe (hope) the cops wouldn't have broken down the door if they didn't think he had a gun on him. For all we know he did and he threw it away while running home. If the police did see a gun on him before he ran, it's understandable that they can mistake something he was holding, or the position of his hands, to be a gun, especially after having to chase him, break down his door, and put themselves in a dangerous situation.

I personally don't think they should have run into the house, especially if they thought he was armed. This is the kind of crap you see on TV that makes you roll your eyes and think "oh please, any real cop would call for backup or the freakin SWAT instead of trying to be some hero. Well, this young cop watched too much TV and this is what happened.

Under no circumstances should police ever barge into a house like this when they are basically alone, as mistakes will most likely be made, and somebody will get hurt or be killed. There is nothing to be gained in such a situation, and in every possible scenario I can think of, it would only turn out better (with regards to safety of all involved) when the police secure the premises outside and wait for backup to arrive. I would love to know if this is a procedural issue, training issue, or failure to follow procedures on the part of the 2 police on the scene.
 
Last edited:

yh125d

Diamond Member
Dec 23, 2006
6,907
0
76
Shooting people for getting high now? This has nothing to do with race or blacks and everything to do with this stupid moral high horse "drug war" that has gone on for years. So many civilians and officers alike killed, botched raids, family members shot and killed in the WRONG HOUSES, people accused of being cop killers for defending themselves in a no knock breaking and entering at 3 am...

I'm not a drug user, but I firmly believe everybody has exclusive right to their own bodies and what they do to themselves. If you can get your shit from a legit dealer who doesn't steal or violate the rights of others, and you can pay for it and smoke/shoot it without stealing or violating the rights of others, then where is the fucking problem?

95% of the need for a paramilitary police forces with automatic rifles and armored vehicles along with the "fearful situations" caused by these encounters daily would disappear overnight if this shit wasn't arbitrarily criminalized.

Amen :thumbsup:
 

SandEagle

Lifer
Aug 4, 2007
16,813
13
0
OP, why do you hate cops so much?

btw, you are 103.5% correct.

you may want to edit your title and replace 'New York' with 'USA'
 
Last edited:

yh125d

Diamond Member
Dec 23, 2006
6,907
0
76
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=8531261

"shows graham running down his block, cops following"

Cops stake out bodega due to known drug activity in the area.
Suspect runs when he sees cops (can be seen in link).
Either tries to find place to hide what he has or gets the rest of his drugs in the house and runs to bathroom, in front of cops, to flush down toilet.

The shooting was an accident and would have been prevented if the officers didn't break the 4th amendment by breaking and entering into this guys home. I also believe (hope) the cops wouldn't have broken down the door if they didn't think he had a gun on him. For all we know he did and he threw it away while running home. If the police did see a gun on him before he ran, it's understandable that they can mistake something he was holding, or the position of his hands, to be a gun, especially after having to chase him, break down his door, and put themselves in a dangerous situation.

I personally don't think they should have run into the house, especially if they thought he was armed. This is the kind of crap you see on TV that makes you roll your eyes and think "oh please, any real cop would call for backup or the freakin SWAT instead of trying to be some hero. Well, this young cop watched too much TV and this is what happened.

Under no circumstances should police ever barge into a house like this when they are basically alone, as mistakes will most likely be made, and somebody will get hurt or be killed. There is nothing to be gained in such a situation, and in every possible scenario I can think of, it would only turn out better (with regards to safety of all involved) when the police secure the premises outside and wait for backup to arrive. I would love to know if this is a procedural issue, training issue, or failure to follow procedures on the part of the 2 police on the scene.

Fixed the bold for you.

If he had a gun, it would be in the home. I haven't heard of them finding a gun yet. It's pretty clear he didn't drop it somewhere while walking home, the cops were not far behind him and most likely would have seen so. I don't believe they thought he had a gun anyway.

If he did have a gun, how did the cops find out? The guy has a jacket on, they didn't just see it hanging out the back of his jeans or something. Surely he wasn't waving a gun around, or they'd have said that. But they didn't. They said they thought he "may have a gun". No mention of seeing a gun, or someone telling them they say him with a gun, nothing. Considering he was walking home, and got there seconds before the officers did, who were running, suggests that the cops were pretty far away when they started to pursue him. probably at least 100 feet, more likely maybe a block or so.






And to a different point, It doesn't matter that they found marijuana, they found it during an unwarranted breach into the victims home, so that evidence would have been inadmissable in court anyway.
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |