About the bolded: LOL! Two of the biggest names in YouTube hardware reviewing, said that the card is "pointless".
And if you have info on Navi performance vis-a-via NVidia's recent card releases, and clocks, and power consumption numbers, let's have the info! Don't keep it to yourself.
Edit: And it's kind of funny that you should say that (only way that they can match Nvidia in performance), because the GTX 1650, even when fully overclocked, can't even match a cheaper AMD RX 570 card.
I would say during any other launch, the 1650 would be a so so launch. Not the bad launch it is at the moment.
The problem is Polaris, particularly the rx 570 variant is largely underpriced at the moment. This is from a combination of over supply in the used market, the price drops due to competition from GTX 1660 and a general oversupply of new Polaris in general. What this has caused is the price of the RX 570 and to a lesser extent 580s to undergo firesale pricing where AMD isn't making money, hence the underpricing. Polaris was a lower margin videocard for AMD in the first place, so a 30-40% decrease in price(even considering the amount of time that has passed), is probably break even to a loss for AMD.
You are getting alot of hardware in terms of components, die size and complexity of the PCB. Far more than any point in the past really. Taking into account inflation, a $130 rx 570, is equal to about 120 dollar r7 270, a 116 dollar 6850, $112 4850s. These predecessors never reached pricing this low(definitely not sustained)because they didn't stay on the market for the same length of time. They were discontinued before the price got too low. Polaris on the other hand has been on the market forever and as a result we have seen the price fall over time(without mining influence). AMD has repaired this largely by rebranding, discontinuing old stock and repricing to levels where it makes profits largely better than the launch pricing(better yields).
With so much Polaris chips and Navi coming somewhat soon, AMD cannot rebrand this chip again and the price has been allowed to fall to the point the rx 570 has hit floor pricing which is basically the cost of the videocard.
This low pricing is painful for AMD because they are likely selling these cards closer to cost(perhaps even a loss) at this point and they were potentially losing big money with the game bundle(atleast with the rx570).
Normally new card do not have to compete with firesale/floor pricing cards because the remaining stock are sufficiently managed on both sides. Nvidia will have cleaned out most of it's old stock and AMD will have a rebrand prepared to phase out the old SKU and raise the pricing of cards again.
This time, its different because there is huge stock of old cards available because neither company managed their inventory well because of the mining craze. AMD tried to maintain pricing of their cards and prevent this price freefall from happening by releasing their gaming bundle as a substitute which mostly worked until RTX 2060 and lower were released.
Prices dropped to historical lows for Polaris and for the most part are selling at or below cost.
When these cards were selling for around 130 new(for 8gb versions), it is difficult to see AMD making money anymore. The significant cost of 8gb of memory cost is some where around 50 dollars. Add board partner profit, retailer, distributer cost and your taking another 25%. That leaves you around 50 dollars to build the rest of the card like the PCB, power circuitry, cooler etc(the cooler alone is 15-20$), the packaging, logistics, and there is simply no profit left for AMD.
Overall the point is all cards are going to have a very bad price to performance vs the rx570 because it is being sold at or below cost and was already a pretty good value in the first place. Normally cards are not compared to the closeout pricing of cards but that reality exists for the 1650 series due to the sizable quantity of rx 570's available.
To be fair, that's probably true. If it cost the SAME as an RX 570, I think that it would be a lot more viable in the market, and not DOA like it kind of is now. I could see NVidia moving the price down to $110-120, to match the price of the cheaper RX 570 variants, while at the same time, slotting in a "full fat" GTX 1650 ti, with GDDR6, as faster than the current batch of RX 570 cards, for an equivalently higher price, matching RX 570's price/performance, and beating it on power-consumption. (But if the 1650 non-ti barely makes the cut for the lack of 6-pin PCI-E power, I don't see too many of these hypothetical GTX 1650 ti cards lacking PCI-E power either.)
Maybe I'm just sensitive to speculation, wholly painting AMD in a poor light. After all, they came out with Zen, and that does wonders for power-efficiency, they even have an 8C/16T CPU that's 65W, and going to get even better with 7nm Zen. And Navi is going to be on 7nm too.