Question [Videocardz] 3060 8 GB and 3060 Ti GDDR6X coming

[jpiniero]

GeForce RTX 3060 8GB and RTX 3060 Ti with GDDR6X memory to launch 'end of October' - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA preparing more RTX 30 GPUs We have confirmed with board partners new models are indeed planned, but they should not be expected for another few weeks. This is a quick follow-up to the rumor from this week that alleged NVIDIA is making more GeForce RTX 30 GPUs. Our source has now...

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Assuming the 3060 8 GB is just a BOM reduction and the 3060 Ti GDDR6X is just getting rid of excess 19 gbps GDDR6X.

Videocardz clams that these will launch at the end of October.

 

[Borealis7]

new cards circling around the 3060 performance level seems to me like a counter move to the stronger Intel Arc cards that will (might) come soon.

 

[jpiniero]

new cards circling around the 3060 performance level seems to me like a counter move to the stronger Intel Arc cards that will (might) come soon.

Arc is a nonfactor. The 6600 deals might be part of it as mentioned.

 

[Harry_Wild]

The GDDR6X VRAM uses more power but much faster too! I could not wait and pull the trigger on a brand new NVideo RTX 3060 TI Founders Edition card.

 

[Harry_Wild]

Just purchased the 12/2020 NVidia RTX 3060 TI brand new from BB with 8GB GDDR6, not the “X”. I think the 4000 series will use the same “X” so not wasted at all?

Anyways, I am happy to be able to buy it “new”, from an authorized seller and at “MSRP” too!

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Just purchased the 12/2020 NVidia RTX 3060 TI brand new from BB with 8GB GDDR6, not the “X”. I think the 4000 series will use the same “X” so not wasted at all?

Anyways, I am happy to be able to buy it “new”, from an authorized seller and at “MSRP” too!

- Might want to double check that the brand isn't NVideo though...

On the shelf next to an AyyyMD RDX 6800XTX

 

[jpiniero]

NVIDIA graphics driver quietly adds GeForce RTX 3070 Ti (GA102) and new RTX 3060 series support - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA introduces new RTX 30 GPUs The latest 522.25 graphics driver does not only support the brand-new RTX 4090 GPU, it also introduced support for unannounced GeForce RTX 30 models. We have been notified that the 522.25 Game Ready driver comes with support for three new RTX 30 models. All...

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Videocardz says support for the two was added in the latest drivers plus the 3070 Ti GA102.

 

[jpiniero]

ASUS launches GeForce RTX 3060 Ti with GDDR6X memory - VideoCardz.com

GeForce RTX 3060 Ti GDDR6X officially with 4864 CUDA cores, 19Gbps memory ASUS is the first board partner to confirm the new GeForce RTX 30 model. Just as rumored, NVIDIA board partners are now launching their RTX 3060 Ti graphics cards, the new model equipped with faster memory type. ASUS is...

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Asus has a 3060 Ti GDDR6X model on their website.

 

[jpiniero]

ZOTAC launches GeForce RTX 3070 Ti with GA102-150 GPU - VideoCardz.com

GeForce RTX 3070 Ti with GA102 GPU and 10W higher TDP Literally, an Apocalypse. ZOTAC has become the first company to unveil their new RTX 3070 Ti. This is not the rumored 16GB variant, though, but a new SKU with a different GPU. ZOTAC GeForce RTX 3070 Ti Apocalypse GOC with GA102 GPU A card […]

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Here's the 3070 Ti GA102.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 with 8GB memory released, features 128-bit memory bus - VideoCardz.com

Manli launches GeForce RTX 3060 8GB Same specs as 12GB model, but narrower memory bus. NVIDIA is rolling out its late GeForce RTX 30 series update. Just days after ASUS announced its RTX 3060 Ti GDDR6X, a different board partner has just confirmed another product, the RTX 3060 with 8GB memory...

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And the 3060 8 GB.

 

[Aapje]

All these card manufacturers launch the second most powerful card and a middle of the road card at the start and fill in the spaces down the road like each three months another two cards gets released. Sucks!

It's all for good reasons, as those later releases tend to be with for chip bins that are smaller. For example, the 4090 Ti will be made with chips that are near perfect, while there are many chips with a defect, which go into the cheap 4090

 

[Harry_Wild]

Updated NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 8 GB Graphics Cards Cut The Memory Bus To Just 128-bit

Just in time, we are seeing another NVIDIA partner launch its GeForce RTX 3060 LHR 8 GB VRAM, and this time it is from Manli & ASUS.

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LOL!

 

[SteveGrabowski]

LOL so a much worse version of an already terrible RTX 3060

 

[VirtualLarry]

LOL so a much worse version of an already terrible RTX 3060

Trying to give the RX 6500 XT a run for the money?

 

[blckgrffn]

If nvidia took this opportunity to shuffle their prices down, I'd be down with that.

If they just insert them without any shuffling, then its hopefully just a "SE" type launch where they clear out some stock and they go silently into the night.

 

[jpiniero]

If nvidia took this opportunity to shuffle their prices down, I'd be down with that.

I think that was the intent. Instead of cutting prices they made a cheaper SKU.

I would say the official price of the 3060 8 GB would be $299, but that's what the 3050 is going for right now.

 

[blckgrffn]

I think that was the intent. Instead of cutting prices they made a cheaper SKU.

I would say the official price of the 3060 8 GB would be $299, but that's what the 3050 is going for right now.

Right. Well, my interest in the 3060 8GB, such that it is, starts @ $250. If they priced the GRDD6X 3060ti at $399 and move the 3060Ti to $350 that would be great.

3050 @ $219, 3060 8GB @$249, 3060 12GB @ $299, 3060ti @$349, 3060ti GDDR6X @$399 would seem so sane to me compared to where are at but what do I know. Not much, I guess.

And many consumers would probably walk right up that SKU ladder to the 3060Ti GDDR6X.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Right. Well, my interest in the 3060 8GB, such that it is, starts @ $250. If they priced the GRDD6X 3060ti at $399 and move the 3060Ti to $350 that would be great.

3050 @ $219, 3060 8GB @$249, 3060 12GB @ $299, 3060ti @$349, 3060ti GDDR6X @$399 would seem so sane to me compared to where are at but what do I know. Not much, I guess.

And many consumers would probably walk right up that SKU ladder to the 3060Ti GDDR6X.

My interest would be in the 3060 Ti GDDR6X at $300 new. Since that's not happening I have no interest whatsoever in Nvidia cards.

 

[Harry_Wild]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/new-nvidia-drivers-support-3060-ti-gddr6x-and-3060-8gb

vidia has launched(opens in new tab) a new Game Ready Driver for Windows 10 and Windows 11 users that delivers optimizations for a handful of new games, and DLSS 3.0 support to the popular F1 22. But the highlight here is probably the addition of official support for the quietly rolled out new GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Plus GDDR6X and RTX 3060 8GB GPUs.

New support and fixes to support popular games also!

 

[GodisanAtheist]

I dunno WTF is going on over at NV right now, here is an update on this story:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti with GDDR6X to Replace Standard Model with GDDR6

NVIDIA recently updated its product stack with an 8 GB 128-bit GDDR6 variant of the GeForce RTX 3060 (originally 12 GB 192-bit GDDR6), and the RTX 3060 Ti with faster 19 Gbps 256-bit GDDR6X memory (originally 14 Gbps 256-bit GDDR6). We're getting to learn that the new RTX 3060 Ti GDDR6X variant...

www.techpowerup.com

I'm assuming there is going to be something to differentiate the cards from one another. 3060ti isn't bandwidth starved, so aside from some additional heat and power and the odd game that loves bandwidth, there likely won't be much of a difference in actual performance, but damn NV better add some sort of naming indicator showing this is a different card.

As someone on those boards pointed out, NV "I launches" 4080 12gb due to confusing naming then plans to spec out the 3060ti differently and keep naming the same? Doesn't sound right.

 

[blckgrffn]

So if the TBP doesn't change, but the memory uses more power, but the GPU core isn't memory limited to start with... couldn't that be a net performance regression?

Or a net change of basically zero, which is what the naming configuration seems to indicate.

 

[VirtualLarry]

"What's changed is the switch to 19 Gbps GDDR6X memory compared to the original's 14 Gbps GDDR6, which results in a memory bandwidth of 608 GB/s, compared to the original's 448 GB/s. "

Good for miners!

 

[GodisanAtheist]

So if the TBP doesn't change, but the memory uses more power, but the GPU core isn't memory limited to start with... couldn't that be a net performance regression?

Or a net change of basically zero, which is what the naming configuration seems to indicate.

-Yeah I don't understand how TBP can stay the same with GDDR6X not underclocked and undervolted to standard 6 spec. The only other place to take power from is the core, with a lower voltage/capped boost or something.

 

[psolord]

I dunno WTF is going on over at NV right now, here is an update on this story:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti with GDDR6X to Replace Standard Model with GDDR6

NVIDIA recently updated its product stack with an 8 GB 128-bit GDDR6 variant of the GeForce RTX 3060 (originally 12 GB 192-bit GDDR6), and the RTX 3060 Ti with faster 19 Gbps 256-bit GDDR6X memory (originally 14 Gbps 256-bit GDDR6). We're getting to learn that the new RTX 3060 Ti GDDR6X variant...

www.techpowerup.com

I'm assuming there is going to be something to differentiate the cards from one another. 3060ti isn't bandwidth starved, so aside from some additional heat and power and the odd game that loves bandwidth, there likely won't be much of a difference in actual performance, but damn NV better add some sort of naming indicator showing this is a different card.

As someone on those boards pointed out, NV "I launches" 4080 12gb due to confusing naming then plans to spec out the 3060ti differently and keep naming the same? Doesn't sound right.

They can call it the 3060titi.

Nvidia has become a boob company anyway.

 

[Hans Gruber]

Target price for this card $200. Watch and wait.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Adding the 3060 8GB HUB review here. This GPU is a bad joke at current pricing

I hope it sells crazy well. The unwashed masses and brand loyal buyers deserve to be ripped off by Nvidia at every opportunity. Millions of Fry's shouting shut up and take my money like the rubes they are. The best part is they don't even know they are getting ripped off. There will be thousands of youtube comments saying how much they love their 3060 8GB. Ignorance truly is bliss.

 

[Aapje]

Dumb people can't help that they're dumb and don't deserve to be ripped off because of it.

Besides, it's also bad for us consumers when companies don't compete on who provides the best value, but who can scam the best.