Since 4K is a television format, the price might come down faster than you think.
I want to be excited for this until I remember a 70 inch 4K screen for under 2.5k is not happening for years to come so when thath appens then I'll care about 4K resolution a LOT. Right now, it's just nice to know that when 4K screens are available, the cards will be there to drive them.
Except this isn't a refresh AMD is putting out to barely have a faster card....this is a new generation, which you expect to show significant gains over the competition.
Cheers.
You seem to read it differently than me. Sounds like it's simply a work in progress, seeing as how OpenCL works on everybody's hardware, not just AMD's, and it's not working on any yet. I imagine they are more concerned with Autodesk's renderer first. They do need to get it sorted though.
If ATI keep sorting their framepacing issues then Crossfire 290X may be a viable option for 4K gaming. Spec wise the 290X appears to fit the bill of what I would have thought upcoming 4K capable cards would be..
It is doubtful AMD will fix CF over 25x16 on the 7xxx due to the limitations of texture size transfers over the CF bridge. They are forced to use the PCIe slot which is slower? and subject to other data transfers.
I imagine they will have fixed this issue with the new cards so their drivers may well work with >25x16 resolutions.
It's not my requirement. It would just be dumb to put 2xSL-DVI on a modern high-end card like that. Yet that image appears to show such an arrangement. It's baffling.
Good lord I hope it's a work in progress since that's the only thing between me and 2 or more 7950/70s because those 3 GB 580s are really hard to find and anything below the pricey 780 suck balls performance wise compared to Fermi.
OFC paid programs come first but they're not moving an inch in that front.
I really hope these cards from AMD support OpenCL 2.0. Fingers and toes crossed.
Textures are not transfered over the CF bridge, hence textures are mirrored in memory on each card.
The frames generated by the secondary GPU must be forwarded to the primary card for display. Normally, that data is transferred over the CrossFire link provided by the bridge connector between the cards. However, that link's bandwidth is only sufficient for resolutions up to four megapixels.
AMD, price this right.
Assuming it's a bit faster out of the box than Titan, isn't voltage locked, and can hit ~1200MHz+ O/C'd, what would you say is priced right?
Assuming it's a bit faster out of the box than Titan, isn't voltage locked, and can hit ~1200MHz+ O/C'd, what would you say is priced right?
Assuming it's a bit faster out of the box than Titan, isn't voltage locked, and can hit ~1200MHz+ O/C'd, what would you say is priced right?
If this card is roughly near Titan, it looks like AMD is stuck in a cycle of playing catch-up, much like the landscape prior to 4XXX.
Maxwell will be released next year, and will most likely offer significant improvement over Titan.
Hopefully the 780 will drop by 100-150 over the next couple of months, and I can snag a 2nd one.
So the questions are:
- is 22 nm farther away than we think?
- does AMD also have GPUs ready to deliver once 22 nm is available?
Because if 22 nm isn't close these cards seem to make sense.
And if 22 nm is ready and AMD can increase the specs of the 22 nm card it might not be that behind NVIDIA.
- is 22 nm farther away than we think?
- does AMD also have GPUs ready to deliver once 22 nm is available?
20nm, not 22nm. And its most likely a little year away. And I am sure both will have GPUs ready at that time.
for me? I always overclock, and have spoiled pricing expectations that aren't realistic.
I'm comparing it to the $250 7950 card, which can be OC'd to 1200/1700 and comes within ~10% performance of the 7970 ghz edition also OCd to ~1250/1700.
it would have to be priced ~$400-500 for me to jump.
Hopefully the 780 will drop by 100-150 over the next couple of months, and I can snag a 2nd one.
I find this very intriguing. AMD needs to fix this. nVidia's customers are willing to pay $100 more for a card than AMD's customers, even when, as the question was put forth, the AMD card outperforms the competition.
Nothing intriguing about it, NV customers are used to being ripped off for so long they don't understand the meaning of value for money.
People like me who switch GPUs from one company to another based on the best bang for buck, we don't give a damn about brand loyalty. Brand loyalty to me is someone who is happy for corporations to rip them off, simple as that.
Nothing intriguing about it, NV customers are used to being ripped off for so long they don't understand the meaning of value for money.
People like me who switch GPUs from one company to another based on the best bang for buck, we don't give a damn about brand loyalty. Brand loyalty to me is someone who is happy for corporations to rip them off, simple as that.
It's definitely not battered spouse syndrome, though. As you want us to believe.
No one buys a product fully knowing that there is less value for the money unless that person suffers from a mental illness, has incomplete information in order to make a logical purchase, and/or has too much money on their hands.
People buy nVidia products because they have the perception that nVidia products are of higher value than AMD products and are thus worth the premium. Better drivers, better software, etc all add the perceived value of nVidia cards. Brand loyalty is essentially virtual value associated with a brand due to spread of good word or satisfaction from a previous purchase. Some people, like you and I, are more interested in performance/$ because on our value system perf/$ is king.