videocardz AMD Radeon R9 290X Memory Bus: 512-bit

[Skurge]

I'm getting one as soon as they launch. Even if it is the same performance as a 780 at USD650, that what I'm aiming for. If it's Faster than Titan and it's U$549 then thats a bonus.

AMD need incentive to keeping going for the high end and I'll be doing my part to show them that we do want to give nVidia competition on the high end as long as they make good cards.

 

[DiogoDX]

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1040220915#post1040220915

I'm skeptical about the performance but this card must be really good because the Nvidia PR machine is alredy in full charge in the foruns with "maxell is coming" and "must be compared with GTX780 OC".

 

[Rvenger]

Nvidia just wants people to hold out for their product. Truth is that people will just switch back and forth and they haven't switched back to AMD in a while because there was really no refresh yet from them.

I will buy one and perfect timing to add Windows 8.1 to my rig.

 

[HisDivineOrder]

Now would be the time to build some "high end performance" buzz because the next gen's coming launch for consoles is the time when AMD needs to make a "unified" push to get people to see them as the "high end" and "next gen" graphics technology.

Especially right now while nVidia's distracted with getting someone... anyone to go Tegra. I wonder, though, about Mark Rein's latest tweet about seeing something (not a card) that's awesome at nVidia's.

With all the Steam news this week and with AMD releasing this info this week AND with Gabe Newell namedropping nVidia during his Linux talk that preceded all the Steam announcements, I can't help wondering if nVidia didn't score a major win with the Steambox in some way.

 

[Keysplayr]

I'm skeptical about the performance but this card must be really good because the Nvidia PR machine is alredy in full charge in the foruns with "maxell is coming" and "must be compared with GTX780 OC".

Where?

 

[KingFatty]

Yep, preety much nails it. People cry for AMD to releasy high-end cards, so they can go and buy nvidia premiums at lower prices.
Why would AMD want to go for high-end ultra-enthusiast segment when only benefit they get is people paying less for nvidia products (nvidia having lower margins), and only losses on their side, even when they offer better performance and better price.
IMHO, they should abandon high-end and concentrate on low and mid range, because there are way less loyalists that don't care for anything more than a sticker colour on the card.

Wait, are you suggesting that AMD is doing some kind of self-sacrifice that hurts itself a bit by using a lower introductory price for a superior product, because they feel that it will injure NVidia a lot more because NVidia will lose a ton of sales due to having inferior product at higher price points? Insulting people who already spent a lot on their enthusiast/luxury cards? Like the art of war between corporations? I dunno, I keep thinking that these video cards are producing a feeling more like what you get when you buy jewelry - you buy it because it's expensive and you like spending a lot on it because that means it's more valuable. So AMD can try to play warfare with pricing, but people will keep looking for the next jewel to spend a lot on.

 

[UNhooked]

Pop corn time.

 

[Skurge]

Now would be the time to build some "high end performance" buzz because the next gen's coming launch for consoles is the time when AMD needs to make a "unified" push to get people to see them as the "high end" and "next gen" graphics technology.

Especially right now while nVidia's distracted with getting someone... anyone to go Tegra. I wonder, though, about Mark Rein's latest tweet about seeing something (not a card) that's awesome at nVidia's.

With all the Steam news this week and with AMD releasing this info this week AND with Gabe Newell namedropping nVidia during his Linux talk that preceded all the Steam announcements, I can't help wondering if nVidia didn't score a major win with the Steambox in some way.

I don't see the point of Steambox really. Whats stoping me from Dual Booting Windows and SteamOS to get the best of both worlds regarldless of what hardware I'm using?

 

[Granseth]

I don't see the point of Steambox really. Whats stoping me from Dual Booting Windows and SteamOS to get the best of both worlds regarldless of what hardware I'm using?

If they manage to somehow reduce the overhead and get a more efficient gaming system will it be interesting. If not, it will probably be another thing.

 

[LegSWAT]

For a fair comparison, Anandtech.com will surely include an overclocked 780 in the upcoming AMD card review. However, an oc'd version of that AMD card will not be included in subsequent nvidia card review.

Balla's gonna love it!

 

[yacoub]

Nothing intriguing about it, NV customers are used to being ripped off for so long they don't understand the meaning of value for money.

People like me who switch GPUs from one company to another based on the best bang for buck, we don't give a damn about brand loyalty. Brand loyalty to me is someone who is happy for corporations to rip them off, simple as that.

I refused to buy the 7000 series AMD cards and hung on to my 6950 because the prices were at least $100 too high for every model at launch. It was like AMD was trying to copy NVidia and over-price their cards. So I did what the prudent person does and resisted the urge for the new shiny and waited. I know I want to stick with AMD because their cards have been flawless for me for several generations now. No crashes, no bugs, and high image quality. If they were somehow failing me, I might consider NVidia again, but they aren't so i haven't. You don't change to an unknown from a known unless you are so bored you welcome the potential for introducing problems.

Now the 7000 series cards are finally hitting attractive pricing and I'm going to get one once the reviews hit (tomorrow?) and we know for sure what to expect from the new gen GPUs and how much it may or may not impact older product prices in the short term (which is in part based on how soon we'll see the mid-range cards of the next gen actually available to purchase and therefore competing with the older cards, driving old card prices down until inventories deplete).

 

[crazzy.heartz]

So comparing an overclocked card to a stock one is a "fair" comparison. You're a funny guy.

It's only fair when one's trying to create a level playing field; by including nvidia's old cards at higher speeds at match AMD's new cards on launch day. To even the odds, so to speak.

 

[Imouto]

I don't see the point of Steambox really. Whats stoping me from Dual Booting Windows and SteamOS to get the best of both worlds regarldless of what hardware I'm using?

Dual boot is a major pain in the ass for casual gamers. If the Steam Box is set to have any success is because Valve would heavily subsidize and promote it. Name it the price tag itself, discounts in games for registered hardware or exclusive promos and previews.

 

[Jacky60]

Ready to give AMD major Kudos if they pull this off. Less than 24hours to go.

Are you sure??

 

[Keysplayr]

Are you sure??

Of course. Credit where credit is due. If all these bits of info prove accurate, then I surely would congratulate AMD.

 

[imaheadcase]

When is Maxwell suppose to come out anyways? 6+ months?

 

[Jaydip]

Not sure, It is a complete new architecture for NV so it will take some time.If the leaked benches are legit I do expect a retaliation by NV before Christmas though.

 

[lavaheadache]

I just want to lash out in frustration and anger that it is taking this long for the goodies to come out. Never thought I would say this but I wish we were back on the 6 month new gen cycle... This 1.5 year thing is terrible for everything except my wallet. Even then my wallet still suffers because I get so bored that I just buy new cards to try something different.

 

[krumme]

For a fair comparison, Anandtech.com will surely include an overclocked 780 in the upcoming AMD card review. However, an oc'd version of that AMD card will not be included in subsequent nvidia card review.

And a lot of people will as usual get very angry and complain a lot. Making a lot of noise. Then Anand will take stage and in a follow up note explain - and it takes the most of a full page to do that (you get tired reading it) - why it have to be so. People will settle down and be ready for entertainment the next time

Seriously. If this is really 512b bus we are probably in for some serious oc. On paper it begs to be kicked in the a...
I think most will do oc to oc comparisons anyway themselves and then look at perf cost. Forking out for a gfx in this class most probably do their homework planning it.

 

[Attic]

I'm hoping this raises the bar enough to bring about 7970 ghz performance at 200 bucks from AMD within 6 months.


The 7970 still my favorite beast card of current gen.

Still waiting for anothe GTX460 level of price/performance relative to peers from nVidia. Should have kept my 460sli up to this point.

 

[imaheadcase]

I just want to lash out in frustration and anger that it is taking this long for the goodies to come out. Never thought I would say this but I wish we were back on the 6 month new gen cycle... This 1.5 year thing is terrible for everything except my wallet. Even then my wallet still suffers because I get so bored that I just buy new cards to try something different.

Oh rich people problems, its terrible amiright?

 

[blackened23]

It's only fair when one's trying to create a level playing field; by including nvidia's old cards at higher speeds at match AMD's new cards on launch day. To even the odds, so to speak.

You're a funny guy. The only reason to do this is if you're heavily biased towards nvidia and want to put their cards in the best possible light even if a website has to throw their journalistic integrity out the window. And that is, what you're doing by overclocking nvidia cards but not overclocking AMD cards. If you want the review to show the indicative performance of a reference 780 versus a reference R9x, you don't do this. The reviews will be reference stock clocks versus reference stock clocks. It won't be "HEY WE WANT TO MAKE NVIDIA LOOK BETTER THAN THEY REALLY DO" by overclocking all of their cards but not overclocking the AMD cards. Give me a break.

The point of a review is to show an objective comparisons between 2 launch products with both at stock clocks. The only reason to overclock one and not the other is if you're heavily biased towards nvidia - that is neither objective or fair methodology because ONE CARD IS STOCK AND ONE IS OVERCLOCKED. If you don't see the obvious implications of overclocking one and not the other, you haven't thought it through or you're just biased towards nvidia.

 

[imaheadcase]

Oh man, if so then my condolences to the Titan owners if this happened soon. Highly unlikely though.

Well you can picked up used Titans for around $700. So not a huge deal for the owners.

 

[Rvenger]

Well you can picked up used Titans for around $700. So not a huge deal for the owners.

Titan owners who paid 1k+

If you can nab a Titan cheap then its all good. Newegg open box has the 780s priced under $500 which is a bargain.

 

[videogames101]

If the R9 290X (or whatever the official launch name is) comes bundled with BF4 I'll be hard pressed not to pick one up.