Nope.
- He's not using in game clocks
- No Maxwell?
- No bandwidth handicap?
Who said those slides was of R9 390X other than wccf speculating it was that? It could have been Titan X as well, and they were not far off
What percentage of OC do 980 typically reach? Hawaii can go from 1ghz to 1.2ghz so thats a straight 20% OC with added vcore. Power consumption goes crazy so 1.15ghz is more the norm, or 15%. But my point re the performance gap isn't so much to debate with you R290X vs 980. It's to showcase the overall performance we extrapolate from to arrive at Titan X vs 390X.
Ah the nuances. You are ALWAYS fudging numbers in favor of AMD and against Nvidia. 1080p comparisons for worst possible gains when comparing Nvidia cards to one another, citing rare absolute best-possible AMD overclocks (average of 5 aftermarket 290x cards is below 1150mhz, none reach 1200mhz and also [H] has never had a 290x that reached 1200mhz). You literally do it every single day and smudge just small enough that it's rarely called out, and when it is you claim innocence or fend ignorance or make up excuses out of thin air (like Nvidia slotted the gtx 680 as a 1080p card when in fact THEY DID NOT). It gets old so quick. You're either a blatant pathological liar or a huge AMD troll masquerading as a guy trying to walk a tight rope. Probably both, but it just has to be pointed out.
The performance should be round about 35% faster than the 980 in games. That is taking account higher resolutions. At 1080 it maybe slightly less, higher resolutions slightly more.
The reason is simple, the Titan X is clocked lower and performance is exactly where it should be considering. I also expect the Titan x will be completely vindicated when it comes to overclocking. This chip should be an overclocked dream come true. I truly expect that we will be seeing clocks as high as 1400mhz and beyond.
Ah the nuances. You are ALWAYS fudging numbers in favor of AMD and against Nvidia. 1080p comparisons for worst possible gains when comparing Nvidia cards to one another, citing rare absolute best-possible AMD overclocks (average of 5 aftermarket 290x cards is below 1150mhz, none reach 1200mhz and also [H] has never had a 290x that reached 1200mhz). You literally do it every single day and smudge just small enough that it's rarely called out, and when it is you claim innocence or fend ignorance or make up excuses out of thin air (like Nvidia slotted the gtx 680 as a 1080p card when in fact THEY DID NOT). It gets old so quick. You're either a blatant pathological liar or a huge AMD troll masquerading as a guy trying to walk a tight rope. Probably both, but it just has to be pointed out.
From that old leak FIJI ES is like 5% faster than TITANX.It will be indeed very interesting fight.Versus 390X for context. Titan X uses 37W less than 390X. Not as big a power gap as from the R290X vs 980.
The same source has said many months ago, 390X is faster than "full-fat" GM200. Looks like they may be right. The interesting thing is the OC potential. Exciting times ahead (even if its 28nm!!).
No doubt they can, but Nvidia outspends AMD on R&D and it shows with nothing new in the last 2 years from AMD while Maxwell eats their lunch.
290x launched in October of 2013.
780 launched in May of 2013.
The time from product launch to product launch for both companies is not so different as you claim. If AMD launches in June they are 2 months behind in comparison to NV refresh.
AMD R&D is so poor that the 290 competes with 970 and the 290x competes with the 980...
I think those who draw the obvious (but wrong) conclusion regarding the lateness of AMD with a new gen compared to Maxwell as a result of their lower R&D investment need to remember when Fermi was very very late. Was that due to a lack of R&D funds also or do negative connotations don't apply to NV? .
Either way, its coming soon. Hopefully in time for mass availability of 1440/4K screens with Freesync.
I think those who draw the obvious (but wrong) conclusion regarding the lateness of AMD with a new gen compared to Maxwell as a result of their lower R&D investment need to remember when Fermi was very very late. Was that due to a lack of R&D funds also or do negative connotations don't apply to NV? .
Either way, its coming soon. Hopefully in time for mass availability of 1440/4K screens with Freesync.
From that old leak FIJI ES is like 5% faster than TITANX.It will be indeed very interesting fight.
AMD/ATI is know for bad early drivers so we can expect more performance gain before launch.I still exept FIJI beating Titan by 10%.
yeah if AMD are ahead by 5% I would not be surprised. Anything more and Nvidia are in for serious embarassment. Its time for AMD to take back the lost marketshare :thumbsup:
Its one thing to have the performance lead and another to take market share.
Did you forget that AMD can also fight back when it has a strong product lineup. remember the HD 4870 and HD 4850. I am foreseeing a similar situation. AMD will gain back what they lost and some more.
http://www.dailytech.com/GPU+Market+Shows+Impressive+Gains/article13294.htm
Did you forget that AMD can also fight back when it has a strong product lineup. remember the HD 4870 and HD 4850. I am foreseeing a similar situation. AMD will gain back what they lost and some more.
http://www.dailytech.com/GPU+Market+Shows+Impressive+Gains/article13294.htm
Don't bet on it happening again. AMD has marketed itself as the cheap alternative and that has a bad image associated with it. They've done this long enough now and also credit to NV for consistently out performing them at the high-end.
If AMD price 390X at $600, IMO, there's plenty of loyal NV users who would folk out $999 for a Titan X just because 1) it's the NV ecosystem tax which is acceptable for them and 2) 12GB VRAM!! 12 is ALOT bigger than 4 afterall.
The vast majority of the GPU market share comes from Entry to $100 GPUs.
Not really:
Firstly you are assuming the R9 390X has 4GB which is plain wrong. Secondly AMD built the PS4 and Xbox One with 8GB. So AMD will have foreseen VRAM requirements go up as developers increase their texture budgets on the consoles.
Not really: