[VideoCardz]NVIDIA GP104 and first Polaris GPUs supposedly spotted on Zauba

[KaRLiToS]

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NVIDIA GP104, smaller die, more pins

Let’s start with GP104, the GM204 successor, based on Pascal architecture. We are probably looking at first high-end GPU from upcoming 1000 series (the name has not been confirmed). Same as with Kepler and Maxwell, we don’t expect the ‘Big Pascal’ to be released anytime soon. Instead much smaller GPU, that should theoretically be faster than both GTX 980 Ti and TITAN X is expected in the coming months.

AMD Polaris GPUs also make an appearance

Moving on to the Red Team. A good chap iLeakStuff from OCN gave me a hint that he found what seem to be first board numbers of Radeon 400 series graphics cards.

The C980 and C981 are likely based on the same chip. What’s interesting the price of C98X boards seems to be higher than Hawaii XT boards (which can also be found on Zauba). This means we are probably looking at first high-end Polaris chips, but not necessarily Fury replacement just yet. Just for clarity, the Fiji boards are C880 (Fury X), C882 (Nano) and C883 (Fury X2).

The C913 and C924 are quite possibly entry-level or mid-range solutions.

AMD C913 (102-C91301-00)

AMD C924 (102-C92401-00)

AMD C980 (102-C98001-00)

AMD C981 (102-C98101-00)

 

[lilltesaito]

I see the smaller one was shipped back in Aug. Would that mean we most likely will start to see the full product here shortly?

 

[ShintaiDK]

What do you base your "specs" on?

 

[KaRLiToS]

ileakstuff

 

[ShintaiDK]

And begun shipping, they did that since august 2015 from what you list.

 

[Krteq]

Hmm, dual Fiji card have PCB with P/N: 109-C88337-00A, and we don't know about any other cards in preparation, so these could be Polaris based cards.

 

[ShintaiDK]

You forgot to include your source:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1587294/...rent-polaris-chips-and-4-different-gpus-found

 

[KaRLiToS]

ileakstuff

You forgot to include your source:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1587294/...rent-polaris-chips-and-4-different-gpus-found

The source is still Zauba, predictions are from ileakstuff, just like the answer I gave you on the third post.

 

[Techhog]

So, are these going to be the only new cards in the 400 series?

 

[maddie]

The price difference between the two classes is huge, 250%. This can't be the whole picture, can it?

 

[mysticjbyrd]

Engineering samples?

 

[Pinstripe]

Engineering samples?

Most certainly.

AMD already said the new cards will release mid-2016, so an E3 2016 announcement and a release shortly after makes sense.

 

[tential]

Most certainly.

AMD already said the new cards will release mid-2016, so an E3 2016 announcement and a release shortly after makes sense.

Mirroring last year I think so too. I think if they're going multigpu solutions that's dangerous for cf scaling and gameworks games.

 

[3DVagabond]

Mirroring last year I think so too. I think if they're going multigpu solutions that's dangerous for cf scaling and gameworks games.

Why do you think they are going multigpu?

 

[tential]

Why do you think they are going multigpu?

I don't necessarily but I'm saying if they continue and use a multigpu solution to compete it'll cause issues.

I'm not saying amd shouldn't ensue their cf stays top notch compared to sli. I'm saying I hope they don't continue the dual gpu card focus for their sake and that they're first to market.

I mean I really can't imagine amd screwing up this release too but we'll see. I hope this is an amd gpu I can happily buy day 1.

 

[3DVagabond]

I don't necessarily but I'm saying if they continue and use a multigpu solution to compete it'll cause issues.

I'm not saying amd shouldn't ensue their cf stays top notch compared to sli. I'm saying I hope they don't continue the dual gpu card focus for their sake and that they're first to market.

I mean I really can't imagine amd screwing up this release too but we'll see. I hope this is an amd gpu I can happily buy day 1.

If you are going to put the effort in to implement something then they should have a product that leverages it, IMO.

Now, if you mean relying on dual GPU to compete, I don't see them actually doing that. Hawaii was designed to compete as a stand alone GPU and so is Fiji.

 

[Techhog]

I don't necessarily but I'm saying if they continue and use a multigpu solution to compete it'll cause issues.

I'm not saying amd shouldn't ensue their cf stays top notch compared to sli. I'm saying I hope they don't continue the dual gpu card focus for their sake and that they're first to market.

I mean I really can't imagine amd screwing up this release too but we'll see. I hope this is an amd gpu I can happily buy day 1.

And the magical interposer brigade will appear in 3... 2...

 

[Arachnotronic]

And the magical interposer brigade will appear in 3... 2...

When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail...

 

[bradsh]

Hmmm... do we really think AMD will ship a high end part mid 2016? Should I be holding off on buying a 980ti at this point if I'm mostly looking to power VR and fall games?

 

[3DVagabond]

Hmmm... do we really think AMD will ship a high end part mid 2016? Should I be holding off on buying a 980ti at this point if I'm mostly looking to power VR and fall games?

What are you running now?

 

[KaRLiToS]

Hmmm... do we really think AMD will ship a high end part mid 2016? Should I be holding off on buying a 980ti at this point if I'm mostly looking to power VR and fall games?

What is your current card? If you have a GTX 480 I would say yes upgrade to GTX 980ti, but if you have GTX 780ti or R9 290x I wouldn't upgrade.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Hmmm... do we really think AMD will ship a high end part mid 2016? Should I be holding off on buying a 980ti at this point if I'm mostly looking to power VR and fall games?

The chatter that I've been hearing is that we shouldn't expect flagship AMD Polaris-based GPUs until late 2016/early 2017, but take it for what it is -- just chatter.

 

[Silverforce11]

Hmmm... do we really think AMD will ship a high end part mid 2016? Should I be holding off on buying a 980ti at this point if I'm mostly looking to power VR and fall games?

At this point, given the link with GloFo, I don't think there's a big-die Polaris. Raja said 2x Polaris chips only for 2016, the one shown already is lightweight low-end. Thus, the other will be mid-range.

Because they already have some experience with the tech, interposer-linked multi-chips can behave like one big chip without the pitfalls of CF/SLI. So that's one way to get a high end SKU.

When is it coming? We can all guess or speculate. Because there's no concrete info besides the 2 chips they have and their plans to release some Polaris SKU soon. My guess, low end and mid-range in 2016 only.

If their multi-chip solution works, it would be prime candidate for HPC Firepros.

 

[3DVagabond]

At this point, given the link with GloFo, I don't think there's a big-die Polaris. Raja said 2x Polaris chips only for 2016, the one shown already is lightweight low-end. Thus, the other will be mid-range.

Because they already have some experience with the tech, interposer-linked multi-chips can behave like one big chip without the pitfalls of CF/SLI. So that's one way to get a high end SKU.

When is it coming? We can all guess or speculate. Because there's no concrete info besides the 2 chips they have and their plans to release some Polaris SKU soon. My guess, low end and mid-range in 2016 only.

If their multi-chip solution works, it would be prime candidate for HPC Firepros.

Can you show me a source for this tech being reasonably possible?

 

[Silverforce11]

Can you show me a source for this tech being reasonably possible?

I don't have the link on me since its awhile back, but the company (UMT?) who did the interposer for Fury did a presentation to talk about the tech.

It is simply a matrix of interconnects that allow chips to talk to each other, chip <-> chip or HBM.