[ VideoCardz ] NVIDIA launches GeForce GTX 960

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Magic Carpet

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In which case, they shoulda started with the most powerful of the trio.

What a joke :thumbsdown:
 

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I hadn't heard about 3 960 cards. That's new to me.

Yea ,I guess it will be released like the gtx560, gtx560ti,and gtx560ti 448 core?
When the gtx960ti releases the 960 will drop to 150$ (where it should be),the 960ti grabs the $229 spot and the gtx965ti at $250 with the gtx970 at about $310. That's just guessing, but its usually how Nvidia operates.

Meanwhile the AMD cards sell even cheaper.:thumbsup: r9 280 vs gtx960 at 150$, the r9 280x vs gtx960ti at 200$, the gtx965ti vs r9 285 at 250$, the gtx970 vs r9 290 duke it out it in the top end.
Well something like that.
 
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MiRai

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Biased charts.....Comparing performance with the 285 but forgot it in the power consumption....Hmm.
Haha that's the first thing I noticed. Comparing power consumption to a 290X, but then comparing Firestrike scores to both a 280X and a 285. Where did the 290X go? And how about those power consumption numbers on the 280X and 285?
 

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Well considering its custom model vs ref 770, it'll be slower than custom 680 models from 3 years ago..
That's an interesting conundrum. Would it outperform something that does not exist, or does something that does not exist therefore have no limits?
 

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Not even cherry picked marketing reviews can make this card look good.

Wow that deception is bad, indication of a card with little going for it.
 

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Yea ,I guess it will be released like the gtx560, gtx560ti,and gtx560ti 448 core?
When the gtx960ti releases the 960 will drop to 150$ (where it should be),the 960ti grabs the $229 spot and the gtx965ti at $250 with the gtx970 at about $310. That's just guessing, but its usually how Nvidia operates.

Meanwhile the AMD cards sell even cheaper.:thumbsup: r9 280 vs gtx960 at 150$, the r9 280x vs gtx960ti at 200$, the gtx965ti vs r9 285 at 250$, the gtx970 vs r9 290 duke it out it in the top end.
Well something like that.

I think R9 370 will be released by the time this happens.
 

Morgoth780

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Here are 4k benches comparing the 280 and 960 from wccftech. Obviously take them with a grain of salt though.


Original source: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-960-radeon-r9-280-4k-benchmarks/

Assuming they're accurate, the 960 certainly suffers at 4k from a lack of bus width and/or lack of memory.

Obviously it's not a 4k card, but if games continue to require more bandwidth and VRAM at 1080p, I can definitely see it being problem.

BTW, gj nvidia on releasing a card that is comparable to my 3 year old 7950 for $200. Really pushing preformance on their "mid-range" cards.
 

skipsneeky2

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Looks like Maxwell does very well in that game...

Almost to well if you ask me,its a oddity for sure.Faster then a 770 in all other resolutions outside of 900p too?

I know its a single game in the universe of games but when you see that,you wonder how legitimate it is.It's a game i'm buying come next Black Friday if its $20 and i think TPU is the only reviewer benching it?

All other games and reviews the stock 960 simply is slower then a 770 in all resolutions lol.
 

RussianSensation

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All other games and reviews the stock 960 simply is slower then a 770 in all resolutions lol.

So just as most of us said for weeks - complete disappointment at current prices.

EVGA 960 SSC - $210 = 100%
After-market R9 290 = reference 290X = $250-275 = 147% at 1080P.

Who is going to buy this product for 1080P, HALF the VRAM and 50% less performance to save $40-65.



Come on people, $260 for a Sapphire Tri-X R9 290 without any special sale.
Asus R9 290 for $240 on Newegg!!



NV is really dropping the ball on drivers lately. 780 is just 8% faster than a 7970Ghz at 1440P, 970 and 780Ti < 290X, 980 is ONLY 10% faster than a 290X reference.

Holly ****, a $550 980 card is just 10% faster than a $300-325 R9 290X card at 1440P, and just 8% faster at 4K.
You can almost buy dual MSI Lighting 290Xs now almost the same price of some after-market 980s. And people say AMD's drivers are bad?! Mind-blown.

Things get even worse for 970/980 at 4K against ancient 290/290X cards.



Not even cherry picked marketing reviews can make this card look good.
Wow that deception is bad, indication of a card with little going for it.

I can't see how anyone brand agnostic can possibly defend or recommend this card. The amount of value an after-market R9 290 offers in comparison is out of this world. I mean I've never seen such a major gap in value between AMD and NV. We are literally talking DOUBLE the VRAM and 37-47% more performance for $40-50 more. I can't believe it. I am absolutely shocked the market has come down to this that AMD is practically giving away their cards and NV gamers still keep buying NV. This is a sad sad time period for PC gaming. It'll be 100% proof that if this card sells well and NV users looking for a $200-250 gaming card don't jump to an after-market R9 290 that they are 100% brand brainwashed and absolutely don't care about price/performance of AMD cards. Might as well sell R9 390X for $299 against a $699 GM200.

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I can't believe TPU gave 960 a 9/10. What are they smoking?! He goes on to say:

"The current price/performance king is R9 290, which at $270 isn't completely out of reach either. However, what makes the difference for me, and certainly a huge amount of users, is that NVIDIA's new GTX 960 is so power efficient, which means it runs much cooler and quieter unlike AMD's cards."

What a bunch of made up baloney. I expected better from an informed hardware reviewer.

1. What does a card running cooler have to do with anything? If an R9 290 is rated to run at 90C, and 960 runs at 70C, who cares?

2. We know that after-market cards like R9 290 Sapphire Tri-X run both cool and quiet even if he is paranoid to run a cad at 85-90C. I guess he can't think outside the box as if AIBs do not sell 290s?

Are we supposed to believe these "professional" reviews when videos show a max loaded Tri-X 290 is cool and quiet?
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-290-and-290x,3728-8.html

W1zzard lost some credibility in my eyes with trying to pass on what's aren't facts as facts with insinuations that after-market 290s run hot and loud. I guess I should have known better which way marketing $ flows these days, but deep down I still though reviewers would call it how it is instead of straight up making up facts.





I am sorry but TPU is becoming a hypocritical site, heavily slanted towards NV in some ways.

W1zzard goes on to criticize R9 290's noise levels but gives a Gigabyte 980 G1 a 9.7 out of 10 in his review. If he cares about noise levels so much, he is 100% inconsistent.



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Dribble

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So just as most of us said for weeks - complete disappointment at current prices.

EVGA 960 SSC - $210 = 100%
After-market R9 290 = reference 290X = $250-275 = 147% at 1080P.

Who is going to buy this product for 1080P, HALF the VRAM and 50% less performance to save $40-65.

OEM's - it has everything they want, low power so the rest of the system can be built cheaper (smaller psu, less cooling, etc), it's shiny new, it's made by nvidia (premium brand), it has lots of features.

Non enthusiasts - they have a cheap dell and got to PC world to buy a fancy graphics card for it, the GTX 260 might just work at 120W, small size and small heat output. They have heard of nvidia, they'll take one home and probably be very happy with it.

Anyone who wants a small low power gaming card for their micro/HT PC - this is a good choice.

That's most of the $200 market just there. For people like you who take it all very seriously, have huge cases with big PSU's designed to fit over sized high powered cards it's clearly a very bad fit.

In the end I'm sure they'll sell like hotcakes and you'll write many thousands of lines raging over the injustice of it all.
 
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96Firebird

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In the end I'm sure they'll sell like hotcakes and you'll write many thousands of lines raging over the injustice of it all.



To him, all that matters is price/performance. Nothing else. Once you realize this, you learn to ignore the walls and move on...
 

Unoid

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better off with a used r discounted R9 290 for 4gb + real performance.
 

SteveGrabowski

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To him, all that matters is price/performance. Nothing else. Once you realize this, you learn to ignore the walls and move on...

But what's more important than price/performance? Especially when Nvidia isn't offering a game with the card?
 
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