[videocardz][PCPer][AT] Nvidia Price drops and 780Ti pricing/launch details

[YBS1]

Really? That is rather lame. I guess you could use a multimeter like you said.



That's what I want. It's one of the main reasons I've gone with AMD the last few generations. Too bad the Lightning doesn't have the same kind of support because it's a pretty good deal at $550 vs $580 for the Classy.

They are both going to be pretty solid cards, the classified is probably worth the premium though as most of them have Samsung memory which the Lightnings do not AFAIK.

 

[Teizo]

They are both going to be pretty solid cards, the classified is probably worth the premium though as most of them have Samsung memory which the Lightnings do not AFAIK.

What I just read from a reviewer on Newegg (take it with a grain of salt though) is that Classifieds are shipping with Elpida memory now as well. Guess an email to EVGA would be in order before buying just to make sure.

 

[blackened23]

They are both going to be pretty solid cards, the classified is probably worth the premium though as most of them have Samsung memory which the Lightnings do not AFAIK.

Neither card has a "set" brand of VRAM. They both use whatever's available - there was a few months of poor availability of Samsung VRAM which affected all AIB makers and all GPUs from what I've read. There are/were definitely some classifieds with Elpida VRAM, but unlike some others I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. I have seen some classified owners over at OCn being able to overclock their Elpida VRAM to 7GHz+, i'm not sure what the hysteria with Elpida was all about. Seems okay as far as I can tell - either way, though, you can get either / or with both the Lightning and Classified.

I have to admit. The Lightning 780 is looking really tempting at 550$ right now, having been a fan of the 580 and 680 lightning cards. I'll have to do some reading up on the classified vs lightning, I do think the lightning *probably* has the better cooler even though it looks kinda cheesy.

 

[YBS1]

What I just read from a reviewer on Newegg (take it with a grain of salt though) is that Classifieds are shipping with Elpida memory now as well. Guess an email to EVGA would be in order before buying just to make sure.

Check the date on that user review. The very first batch was Samsung, then briefly Elpida, then back to Samsung. If that comment was posted in the past 3ish weeks they may well be back to Elpida.

 

[hawtdawg]

hells yeah! 499 for a 780 is even better than I was hoping for.

 

[blackened23]

hells yeah! 499 for a 780 is even better than I was hoping for.

Indeed. Seeing news of this price drop today was both awesome (as someone who is soon getting SLI) and surprising. Did not expect such a deep price cut. Gotta love the competition!

 

[Slomo4shO]

Unless I'm missing something, that's just the Shield's product page. NCIX's Shield Bundle page has you choose a graphics card and a Shield, which I assume gives you the $50 or $100 discount.

There are bundles listed at the bottom. The link to the bundles page keeps getting redirected to the product page.

Example of a single bundle:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1465428

 

[Teizo]

Check the date on that user review. The very first batch was Samsung, then briefly Elpida, then back to Samsung. If that comment was posted in the past 3ish weeks they may well be back to Elpida.

10/24/2013. Just five days ago. I imagine the guy knows what he is talking about. I'd still take it with a grain of salt and email EVGA, but I imagine someone buying a $749 card (at the time) would have a heads up on things.

Indeed. Seeing news of this price drop today was both awesome (as someone who is soon getting SLI) and surprising. Did not expect such a deep price cut. Gotta love the competition!

If I was building again today, I'd probably go SLI 770. At $329 ($660 SLI) I imagine even an overclocked 780Ti would have a hard time keeping pace. The main drawback though would be only having 2GB of VRAM which would kill it above 1600p, but going above 1600p right now is not very economical anyway.

 

[YBS1]

Neither card has a "set" brand of VRAM. They both use whatever's available - there was a few months of poor availability of Samsung VRAM which affected all AIB makers and all GPUs from what I've read. There are/were definitely some classifieds with Elpida VRAM, but unlike some others I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. I have seen some classified owners over at OCn being able to overclock their Elpida VRAM to 7GHz+, i'm not sure what the hysteria with Elpida was all about. Seems okay as far as I can tell - either way, though, you can get either / or with both the Lightning and Classified.

I have to admit. The Lightning 780 is looking really tempting at 550$ right now, having been a fan of the 580 and 680 lightning cards. I'll have to do some reading up on the classified vs lightning, I do think the lightning *probably* has the better cooler even though it looks kinda cheesy.

I agree on the cooler, it looks like it may be more effective, not that I have any factual information to back that up though. I have not seen any reports of Lightnings having Samsung memory, not saying they couldn't however. In the end you are correct though, no hard data that I've seen to say patently one clocks far superior to the other, just the general vibe you get from forum talk.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Classified would be my choice, if that matters

 

[blackened23]

I agree on the cooler, it looks like it may be more effective, not that I have any factual information to back that up though. I have not seen any reports of Lightnings having Samsung memory, not saying they couldn't however. In the end you are correct though, no hard data that I've seen to say patently one clocks far superior to the other, just the general vibe you get from forum talk.

Welp, I think the classified wins this one by default by being 2 slot versus the Lightning' 2.5 slot. I'll have to read up more on cooling performance and what not, but i'm not really enthused about sli with 2.5 slot coolers. Anyway, what kind of clocks can you manage on your classified with reasonable voltage (nothing insane)? Just curious...

 

[24601]

Is there anywhere that sells the reference cooled 770 for 330 USD?

May get one when G-Sync ships.

 

[Grooveriding]

I've read a fair number of anecdotes about the ACX cooler on EVGA cards rattling and making weird noises when it ramps up.

 

[blackened23]

Is there anywhere that sells the reference cooled 770 for 330 USD?

May get one when G-Sync ships.

No. The reference cooler on the 770 is actually more expensive than aftermarket by 40-50$ (last I checked), and only EVGA offers it on their webstore if i'm not mistaken. Possibly newegg as well, but I haven't seen it recently. Apparently the Titan shroud costs more in terms of BOM than many aftermarket coolers, but for some reason it's still cheaper on the 780. (Linus at linustechtips stated that it costs 80$ in BOM IIRC). I think EVGA has to special order the Titan shroud for the 770 since no one else offers it, and that's the reason for the cost. It's standard fare for the 780, but not for the 770.

Just in case you're interested in the reasoning. I was personally kinda shocked that the Titan cooler 770 was more expensive - What i'd go for personally is the Gigabyte windforce 2.0 or the Asus DC II if on the market for a 770. Both are excellent and very quiet.

Edit: here it is 4 Benjamins:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130939

 

[Grooveriding]

Anyone know how EVGA's step up program works after price drops. If I paid full price on my 780s, as in $650, can I still step up to 780ti cards for just an additional $50 ? I think that's right that it's based on what you actually paid, not the current MSRP.

 

[24601]

No. The reference cooler on the 770 is actually more expensive than aftermarket by 40-50$ (last I checked), and only EVGA offers it on their webstore if i'm not mistaken. Possibly newegg as well, but I haven't seen it recently.

Edit: here it is:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130939

It was 370 USD just a few minutes ago when I checked <.<
Now its 399 USD (probably from demand)


Guess I'll have to go at least 780 if I do G-sync.

 

[Teizo]

It's on newegg for that anal ripping price of $399. Given how good some of the non-reference 770 cards are, unless I had a m-itx system and had to have a blower no way I'd pay that price...but that is just me.

 

[Teizo]

Anyone know how EVGA's step up program works after price drops. If I paid full price on my 780s, as in $650, can I still step up to 780ti cards for just an additional $50 ? I think that's right that it's based on what you actually paid, not the current MSRP.

It is supposed to be based on the price you paid, yes. They go by receipt and date of purchase. If your card is still within the time frame, I imagine you'd be set. Back when I had my 660Ti I briefly looked into upgrading to a 770 before I returned it and got the MSI 760, and that is how it was set up.

 

[rtsurfer]

Now all we need is a R290X buyers remorse thread.

And then all we will further need is a 290 reviews and 290X aftermarket reviews thread. So the Titan/780 people can remorse.

And then finally a combined buyers remorse thread for the 780/290/290X/Titan owners when the 780Ti comes out.
Endless cycle.


AMD still has two cards up its sleeve, don't count them out yet.

Also, ever since the 290X came out everybody on the forums has been screaming:
Dont buy the reference card unless you intend to WC.

Lastly, You wouldn't have the price cuts and you would be buying overpriced cards if AMD didn't launch the 290X.

So if you can't THANK them for it, then SHUT UP..

 

[24601]

It's on newegg for that anal ripping price of $399. Given how good some of the non-reference cards are, unless I had a m-itx system and had to have a blower no way I'd pay that price...but that is just me.

The reference cooler is just way too good to pass up if you were able to get it for the price of the other cards. It's definitely at least 300w on a card that can never draw that much, lulz.

In my specific instance I'm litecoin mining on 2x 7970 and 2x 7950 in this PC, so my case really doesn't have the thermal leeway for another open air cooler.

That was also why I wanted to replace a few 7970/7950 with 290x, but the card cannot handle the load (obviously).

 

[YBS1]

Welp, I think the classified wins this one by default by being 2 slot versus the Lightning' 2.5 slot. I'll have to read up more on cooling performance and what not, but i'm not really enthused about sli with 2.5 slot coolers. Anyway, what kind of clocks can you manage on your classified with reasonable voltage (nothing insane)? Just curious...

I would have to check for you to be certain, but off the top of my head I'm wanting to say I was stable at 1320@1.25. My memory is fine at +700(7400) default voltage. Starts needing voltage above that.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

And then all we will further need is a 290 reviews and 290X aftermarket reviews thread. So the Titan/780 people can remorse.

And then finally a combined buyers remorse thread for the 780/290/290X/Titan owners when the 780Ti comes out.
Endless cycle.


AMD still has two cards up its sleeve, don't count them out yet.

Although, ever since the 290X came out everybody on the forums has been screaming:

Dont buy the reference card unless you intend to WC.

Lastly, You wouldn't have the price cuts and buying overpriced cards if AMD didn't launch the 290X.

So if you can't THANK them for it, then SHUT UP..

Post wasn't serious buddy, lulz.

 

[rtsurfer]

Post wasn't serious buddy, lulz.

Okay.Sorry.

Too tired of the trolls, so got a bit worked up.

 

[XiandreX]

what ? the R9 290X(uber) is anywhere from 12 - 20% faster than a GTX 780 at stock at 1440p/1600p.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...s/63742-amd-radeon-r9-290x-4gb-review-18.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_290X/27.html

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/...r9-290x-im-test/5/#rating-2560-1600-4xaa16xaf

http://www.nordichardware.se/Grafik...-290X-Normaliserad-spelprestanda.html#content

and R9 290X is still throttling at uber mode. so there is performance on the table for custom cooler cards to pick up by maintaining 1 Ghz in all games at all times by maintaining lower temps even in a stock mode.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...ws/63742-amd-radeon-r9-290x-4gb-review-4.html

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/10/23/amd_radeon_r9_290x_video_card_review/13

wait for the custom R9 290X cards like toxic, matrix and lightning to see what good power delivery, custom BIOS, custom cooler can do to R9 290X. 1250 - 1300 mhz should be possible. clock for clock R9 290X is on par with Titan. so GTX 780 requires 150 - 200 mhz higher clocks to match R9 20X.

This is the point people need to consider. Be patient a couple more weeks until the AIB 290X units get released/reviewed. I honestly believe that once aftermarket 290X units get released peoples opinion will sway big time towards the 290X. Just my 0.2 :biggrin:

 

[24601]

This is the point people need to consider. Be patient a couple more weeks until the AIB 290X units get released/reviewed. I honestly believe that once aftermarket 290X units get released peoples opinion will sway big time towards the 290X. Just my 0.2 :biggrin:

Chance of an AIB implementing an adequate to good >>>blower<<< solution is approaching 0.