I dunno about AMD but newegg has cut 7950/7970 prices across the board & 7970 can be had for as low as 250$ after MIR so its not like buyers waiting in line will be disappointed if they pick AMD's relatively old(er) flagship now ~I also should add that I had a 6970 and bought 7970s in CF at launch so i'm well aware of what the AMD reference cooler is like. Basically, how it worked for me was like this - quiet up to 42% or so. 45% audible. 50% and higher, loud. Some folks have linked 100% manual fan videos and I agree it isn't that bad.
The 7970 fan didn't necessarily bother me and some are definitely over-exaggerating it, but the main thing in my mind is that you are almost forced to use 55% with the 290X to really spread it's wings. You don't have the option for quietness if you want maximum performance, whereas you could keep a 7970 reference at bay in terms of noise. The 7970 didn't require 55% fanspeed for max performance - in fact, I could overclock mine to near 1200 with a mere 40-45% or so fanspeed back when I had them. Anyway with the 290X - At 550$ that wasn't a big deal because of the incredible value proposition. The cooler was an acceptable trade-off for the outstanding performance. But now? With OC 780s being in that same rough price range with whisper quiet aftermarket cooling? Ehhh. It's a harder sell. Know what I mean? I really feel like AMD could lower the 290X price a bit more to compensate for the cooler quality in comparison to the OC 780s in the same price range.
To be fair, AMD *did* state they were gunning for the GTX 780 and nothing but with the 290 and 290X (despite matching Titan performance at stock). So they should GUN FOR THE 780. Stick to the plan, you know? A 50$ price cut with the never settle bundle would do just that. I love the competition aspect and would love for AMD to do just that. NV basically kicked AMD in the nuts today with this price cut, I would like for AMD to respond in kind.
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131468Again the 290x cooler being exaggerated a bit much IMO. Most of these cards haven't even shipped to the customer's door yet and 290x is being labeled a piece of crap that is only worth $450. Look over at Durvelle27's thread. The cooler can sustain temps under 80c quite easily. It may not be as good as the Titan/780 cooler but again, the 780 was a $650 product that was aging and needed a price drop. Just like how the 7970 was a $550 product. Let's not lose sight of this.
I stated that the reference cooler on the 780 was sub par at best on performance since my card hit 80c within minutes unless I had the fan over 55%. It does look good and that's about it.
Once the AIB's start selling the 290/290x with aftermarket coolers they will be a lot more receptive in the market. I am sure AMD will start the game bundles shortly too.
Sorry friend, Durvelle lost all credibility when he lied about how he acquired some hardware, hid his involvement with the AMD A-Drive team, and then saw no issue with what he had done.
At this point, his posts are as good as AMD marketing, which is worthless.
Sorry friend, Durvelle lost all credibility when he lied about how he acquired some hardware, hid his involvement with the AMD A-Drive team, and then saw no issue with what he had done.
At this point, his posts are as good as AMD marketing, which is worthless.
Rvenger, I just want to add that the 780 that you speak of has no trouble keeping cool in my case, and even in SLi. What was your case flow and ambients like? I'll admit that I run a custom fan profile now because I prefer low temps over noise but even with an 1100mhz clock speed I seldom see temps over 63c.
For those not in the know... I have Rvengers "old" 780.
Newegg has EVGA Classified 780's for $579. That is the Hottest deal right now
I guess the HC 780 classified will go down to $650.... I would need more radiator though and my rig is already owning BF4 on max settings which is all I care about. Still....
Meh. Classified went to $580 and HC classy is $700. Too much for just for fun upgrade.
wonder how many 290x buyers would rethink the purchase if they knew about the nvidia price drop.
Damn, I really just want a Titan price cut.
Damn, I really just want a Titan price cut.
Durvelle is not the only guy posting in the thread though.
Chimaxi83 report something very similar.
NV kicked AMD in the nuts with the new pricing on the 780. Simple as that.
Is it still a member call out, when you do it to yourself?I called $500 for the 780 price drop. I must work at nvidia and shill for them on the side here in the forums :sneaky:
Well, I don't think it's knowing something we don't. It's slower than the 290X and, I believe it will be substantially slower against cards with better coolers.I want to see the price and performance on the vanilla R9 290 this Thursday now. I think nvidia knows something we don't if they dropped $150 off 780.
Mantle is a non-issue. Even if it had a %10 advantage, no one in right mind is going to spend $550 for just one game. Let alone games not even out yet that may or may not offer anything over nvidia cards.
Is a single 7970 TO A 290 X or 780 worth it for 1080p?
Blame AMD for taking this long.
One can`t blame Nvidia for using the opportunity alone on the market to demand whatever they want for it. Its not like they forced people to buy Titan anyway. Atleast they had a cheaper offer 4 months later, as GTX 780.
Competition is good. Pretty dirty tactics by offering the 780 Ti days after the 290X launch though. The event from Montreal was really good timing.
Is that what they were doing to their customers up until today?
Was a 780 really worth $150 more yesterday than today?