Vietnam Vet Spits in Jane Fonda's Face @ Book Signing

[KoolAidKid]

As far as I'm concerned she did nothing wrong. I am a member of humanity first, and an American second. From this perspective, the Vietnam war was a civil war. Why not help out the people that you feel the most sympathy for? This us-vs-them mentality prevalent in this thread and everywhere else accomplishes nothing but unnecessary anger, hatred, and death.

 

[RedPickle]

Originally posted by: KoolAidKid
As far as I'm concerned she did nothing wrong. I am a member of humanity first, and an American second. From this perspective, the Vietnam war was a civil war. Why not help out the people that you feel the most sympathy for? This us-vs-them mentality prevalent in this thread and everywhere else accomplishes nothing but unnecessary anger, hatred, and death.

:thumbsup:

But I understand why any vet would hate her guts.

 

[LongAce]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: LongAce
I'm amazed how many people think she didn't do anything wrong. What a bunch of hippies. What ever happen to those traitors?

My Poll of Jane Fonda

Thge only real traitors were the S. Vietnamese that turned tail and ran when the NVA came roolling in despite having superior technology. We supported the wrong side.

Guess we found one here!!!

 

[Icepick]

Originally posted by: yllus
I dunno much about the whole Fonda thing, but to me, his bravery in spitting in her face is completely offset by the fact that the dude ran away afterwards.

:thumbsup:

 

[Last Rezort]

Originally posted by: Last Rezort

Originally posted by: Vic
Has anyone here ever read the Snopes article?

I like its final paragraph:

Whether the war was right or wrong, those who risked (and gave) their lives fighting it deserve respect, and for Fonda to brand men who were held captive and tortured as "liars" and "hypocrites" (despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary) in order to defend her political views was and is unpardonable.

/
/\ -Vic. Awesome

First off I'd like to ask who really cares. When was the last time you guys talked about this? She was before my time so I'm sure my opinion is biased (I've only seen the News stuff), but this smells like a publicity stunt. IMO She?s using the media machine to promote her new book, using the one thing that irks people as much as religion, politics.

That being said the act was despicable, but IMO forgiveness is necessary for progress. Dwell on the past to much and you?ll miss out on the world around you. I would have expected more Neo-cons or bible thumpers in here fighting for here. The whole, non-belief in accountabilities, and forgive and forget respectfully.

Were you a testament to society as a teenager or young man/woman?

By the way this is like the 3rd repost

 

[KarenMarie]

1) jane fonda is a phony, plastic surgeoned, opportunistic, traitorous b*tch... who deserved to be on trial.

2) that guy should not have lowered himself to spit on her.. and certainly lost crediblity by running away.

3) you guys need to be banned for life if you cannot learn how to stop the 15 nested quote stuff.

 

[CaptainGoodnight]

It's wrong for this nutcase to spit on Jane Fonda, no matter how satisfying it might be nor how well deserved. We can't have veterans, conservatives, or our friends running around like a bunch of Democrats intimidating people like a pack of wild-eyed thugs.

First, it's just wrong to behave that way. We should be above that kind of silly juvenile nonsense. Second, the liberals have made incivility a virtue. We should not imitate this inferior value but rather allow them to own it. Third, it is poor strategy in the culture war against the liberals to mirror their violence. We win this by turning the tables on them, playing pacifist while highlighting their violence done purportedly in the service of "peace" and tolerance.

Right now, the liberals are engaged in low level thuggery to promote their positions. They shout down conservative speakers on campus. They ambush them with pies. They steal conservative newspapers and vandalize conservative bumper stickers. They disrupt Republican gatherings with propaganda chants and agitprop theater. They heckle and scream abuse at Republican delegates in the streets of New York City. They rough up spectators at "peace" marches. They campaign with impossible lies (Bush was AWOL!).

All of these are rightly seen as disreputable by reasonable people. Even liberals are occassionally shamed by these budding stormtrooper tactics. As long as the liberals define themselves as hooligans and haters, we should not undermine their venomous reputation for unthinking hate by imitating them. We win by staying cool and calming stating a well-researched case while they drop their pants in public. Give them a monopoly on violence in the public debate.

The best way to attack Jane Fonda is with the facts, especially since she and her sympathizers are promoting a bogus account of her Hanoi trip. These facts have been helpfully assembled by Henry & Erika Holzer in "Aid and Comfort: Jane Fonda in North Vietnam". Arm yourself with these facts to scorch dimwitted liberals parroting the party line. Spit on them intellectually, not physically

 

[Promethply]

A Vietnam Vet employing a childish guerilla tactic on the object of his hostility -- quite pathetic :roll:

 

[moshquerade]

didn't read through all the replies in this thread, but i do know that in her book she does say she regrets some of her past actions.

i still think she's despicable, and you bet your a$$ she didn't DARE press charges against this man. what she got from him, spit in the face, was her just desserts.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
didn't read through all the replies in this thread, but i do know that in her book she does say she regrets some of her past actions.

i still think she's despicable, and you bet your a$$ she didn't DARE press charges against this man. what she got from him, spit in the face, was her just desserts.

Sure she could press charges. I'm glad she didn't. She's not a fave of mine, but the coward spit an ran. It's been 30 years. He needs to get over it.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: moshquerade
didn't read through all the replies in this thread, but i do know that in her book she does say she regrets some of her past actions.

i still think she's despicable, and you bet your a$$ she didn't DARE press charges against this man. what she got from him, spit in the face, was her just desserts.

Sure she could press charges. I'm glad she didn't. She's not a fave of mine, but the coward spit an ran. It's been 30 years. He needs to get over it.

yeh, she could, but she didn't dare is what i'm saying. she knows she still hasn't been forgiven for her actions and pressing charges against this guy would fuel the fire.
he still got arrested nonetheless.

and it may have been 30 years, but for those guys who fought in Nam, they may never get over it. until i have been able to walk in their shoes, i can't tell them to get over it either.

 

[Last Rezort]

Stop! this happened like a weak and a half ago on p@n so stop the reposting

 

[CaptainGoodnight]

Originally posted by: Last Rezort
Stop! this happened like a weak and a half ago on p@n so stop the reposting

Um, this thread had been dead for more than 24hrs. Why didn't you just let it die, like it was going to anyway?

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: tec699

Originally posted by: PanzerIV

Originally posted by: tec699
so i guess she isn't allowed to have an opinion?

An opinion!!? LMAO. She visited Hanoi DURING THE WAR!!

I don't know much about Fonda and the Vietnam war.

There are several books out there written by POWs who Jane "visited" during the war. In one particular incident, a POW handed Jane a note to pass on to the US Military. Instead, she passed it on to the prison head. The man was summarily whipped - in the presence of Jane. She made no effort to stop it.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: shilala

Originally posted by: tec699
so i guess she isn't allowed to have an opinion?

I disagree with her stance on Vietnam by the way.

Opinion, yes.
The bitch took notes passed by American POW's during a visit to a camp and handed them off to the camp's commander causing some of the POW's to be beat to death.
They were trying to let her know that the camp's conditions were unbearable.
Death is too good for her. A black box, leeches, and daily beatings would do justice.

oops, I should have read a little further.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: blackdogdeek
from snopes.com:



Claim: Jane Fonda betrayed U.S. POWs during the Viet Nam War.

Status: Multiple:

* During a 1972 trip to North Vietnam, Jane Fonda propagandized on behalf of the North Vietnamese government, declared that American POWs were being treated humanely and condemned U.S. soldiers as "war criminals" and later denounced them as liars for claiming they had been tortured: True.

* Jane Fonda handed over to their captors the slips of paper POWs pressed upon her: False.

* In 1999, Jane Fonda was profiled in ABC's A Celebration: 100 Years of Great Women: True.

This is one instance where Snopes is wrong. I heard a radio interview with a POW who was there when it happened.

 

[Juno]

Bravo, he deserved it.