Vikings stadium is a reality....updated.

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Fern

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This. Taxpayer funded stadiums are one of the most bullshit forms of corporate welfare imaginable. The NFL mints money, they can pay for their own damned stadiums.

Exactly.

The obvious model is for the NFL itself to finance stadiums, whether by loan guarantees or outright financing, for individual teams.

Fern
 

IcePickFreak

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They taxed us when they built Miller Park for the Brewers here. So now we can pay a rather high fee to go watch MLB (as exiciting as baseball is to watch ), and pay $6+ for a 12oz cup of Miller piss-water, when the brewery is a half-mile away at most.

They even dropped a crane on the new stadium, killing three people when they were building it and then wanted us to pay for that too.
 

BoomerD

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Feb 26, 2006
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They taxed us when they built Miller Park for the Brewers here. So now we can pay a rather high fee to go watch MLB (as exiciting as baseball is to watch ), and pay $6+ for a 12oz cup of Miller piss-water, when the brewery is a half-mile away at most.

They even dropped a crane on the new stadium, killing three people when they were building it and then wanted us to pay for that too.

Without watching the video you linked, I know that one. "Big Blue."

Bad day for crane operators and iron workers.
 

Wreckem

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This. Taxpayer funded stadiums are one of the most bullshit forms of corporate welfare imaginable. The NFL mints money, they can pay for their own damned stadiums.

Because the NFL can say well, we are packing up and going to a new town, where they are more than happy to pay for part or even all of it.
 

Wreckem

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What can the commish do? Can he stop the vikings from leaving?

The Commish isn't there to stop the Vikings from leaving after this season. He is there to tell Minnesota that something needs to happen quick or plans will be made to relocate the team to another city for the 2013 season.
 

Triumph

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Because the NFL can say well, we are packing up and going to a new town, where they are more than happy to pay for part or even all of it.

Where the town may or may not have the same inability to pay, and may or may not have the guts to stand up to this ridiculousness. There are only so many teams, but there's also only so many metropolitan areas that can support a team, and only so many of those in the proper fiscal condition to offer them incentives to come there.
 
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I think the Governor and the legislature have handled this in a sub-optimal way - there really hasn't been a coherent vision for any particular proposal. Other things being equal I would rather see the Vikings stay, but from a budgetary standpoint it's hard to justify using public funds to subsidize this.
 

Xecuter

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If they're going to move, then get 'em out. The Vikings aren't the only team in the NFL contemplating moving to LA and they probably aren't the first one in line for LA to embrace them with loving arms. The whole moving to LA thing is a power play by the Wilf's but if they can make it into a reality, great! All the vikings have done is provide endless embarassment, disappointment and failure to Minnesota (I'm looking at you Gary Anderson, 1998 NFC Championship).

Why would I want to pay once (tax) for a team I don't want to go watch, and then twice if I did end up in the new stadium (tax+ticket), only to see the Vikings lose?

I already paid for the new Twins stadium, and I'm glad I don't go to the U of M because I'd be paying for that stadium too.
 

unokitty

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Look at how well the new publicly funded stadium in Miami is working out.

I mean public funding does work out for some people. For example:
"...the Mandarin Oriental on Brickell Key launched an I Love Marlins hassle-free package. Hotel guests for two nights double occupancy are chauffeured to and from the park, see a game and get Marlins caps, jerseys and spa treatments. Cost: $2,450 and up...."

Can you expect it to stop? You might want to view Lawrence Lessig as he speaks on the Corrupt Political System.

Best of luck,
Uno





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BabaBooey

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Anyone want to guess where the wilf plane was today while roger and the owner of the steelers were in the capitol bitch slapping officals....DISCLAIMER....yes I am being sarcastic.

The wilf monster was in L.A. today......:hmm:
 

fustercluck

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Hope the Vikes stay in Minnesota, that's a long time great football institution. Wouldn't mind seeing the Jaguars, Panthers, or maybe even the Titans move to LA, though.
 

ElFenix

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$500 million paid by taxpayers. so that taxpayers can pay $100 a seat to watch millionaires line the pockets of billionaires.

dumb.
 

Aharami

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Aug 31, 2001
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$500 million paid by taxpayers. so that taxpayers can pay $100 a seat to watch millionaires line the pockets of billionaires.

dumb.

anyone who's taxes are directly affected by this should get few free tickets to offset his/her taxes.
 

Genx87

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Apr 8, 2002
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$500 million paid by taxpayers. so that taxpayers can pay $100 a seat to watch millionaires line the pockets of billionaires.

dumb.

Politicians are fucking stupid. My state rep replied back it will create jobs. What a fucking idiot. The losers who went to the state capital cant be more cliche. 40-50 something overweight white males clinging onto a sports franchise like it is their last breath. It was sad display looking at the pictures of these losers for the past 2 weeks in the paper.

Those guys probably cant afford a ticket in the new stadium anyways.
 

Phokus

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Nov 20, 1999
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Good, why should the middle class of MN buy a billionaire a new stadium so he can make more money?

A few months ago the legislature debated giving them a loan for the full amount at a low rate and they rejected it.



Finance it like nearly everybody else.

I actually agree with Genx for once.
 
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