Vikings stadium is a reality....updated.

[BabaBooey]

Someone needs some reading comprehension lessons...it says nowhere in that article that they are definitely moving to LA (or anywhere else for that matter) next year.

Not saying it won't happen...as it probably will...but that article says nothing of the sort.

I guess I should have put a disclaimer in...I obviously have no idea what or where they will go or if they will at all,I was kinda venting as our sports teams seem to get yanked out from underneath us...first the lakers then the stars and now this fiasco...:|

Sorry for your confusion.

 

[rivan]

Doubly and triply agreed.

I agree too, but I also see the business angle too.

They're corporations, in business to make as much money as they can in as short a time as they can. They do not give a flying flip about the cities they're in except during speeches where saying so will drive ticket sales. The bottom line is king.

 

[JimKiler]

Yep, not to mention the dipshit owners/NFL have a completely craptastic licensing deal through DirecTV where they are raping fans to watch their product, much more than NHL/MLB/NBA. If the product was that good, I (and pretty much everyone I know that likes football) would have DirecTV. We don't.

Think of how much more revenue the NFL would make if they put all the games on basic cable or free TV. Why do we have to watch our team and block other games? Can't they give a revenue share for all games to the home team regardless of what football game is being watched?

 

[PokerGuy]

Good for the people of MN. There is no way the community should be paying to build a stadium for a team when there is little (or no) evidence that the team financially benefits the community as a whole.

 

[preslove]

Any citizen who thinks it's a good idea to give tax money to billionaires to build pro sports stadiums should have their voting rights taken away. You really have to be close to brain dead to hold that opinion.

 

[69Mach1]

I don't blame the people of Minnesota for not wanting to pay for a new stadium. But, I also don't blame the team for moving if they can get a better deal elsewhere. You can't have it both ways.

 

[*kjm]

The city officials are to blame as far as I’m concerned. The taxpayers will lose a ton of money in tax revenue if the team leaves town. They should have calculated how many years the stadium would last and made an educated guess on how much of a fee to add on to ticket prices. Then when they did need a new stadium they should have the money they would need and keep all the tax revenue.

 

[AstroManLuca]

The Vikings really do need a new stadium, sucks that they might be moving. The Vikings/Packers rivalry is great. Would they keep them in the NFC North?

A lot of people have speculated that if the Vikings moved to LA, they would be put in the NFC West and the Rams would move to the NFC North.

I guess I wouldn't mind becoming a Rams fan... of course I'm not sure which games would be considered "local" (and thus broadcast on local OTA channels) if the Vikings move. Hard to root for a team when you can't watch them. And no, I'm not paying DirecTV however many millions of dollars they want per month to get their service and Sunday Ticket.

 

[ElFenix]

The city officials are to blame as far as I’m concerned. The taxpayers will lose a ton of money in tax revenue if the team leaves town. They should have calculated how many years the stadium would last and made an educated guess on how much of a fee to add on to ticket prices. Then when they did need a new stadium they should have the money they would need and keep all the tax revenue.

no

 

[brandonb]

The city officials are to blame as far as I’m concerned. The taxpayers will lose a ton of money in tax revenue if the team leaves town. They should have calculated how many years the stadium would last and made an educated guess on how much of a fee to add on to ticket prices. Then when they did need a new stadium they should have the money they would need and keep all the tax revenue.

I'd actually consider allowing tax dollars to be used for a stadium, if and only if, the team used its revenue to refund the tax payers. For example, The Vikings won the Superbowl, and generated alot of revenue. If that revenue is sent to each and every tax payer in the city/county or whatever and was given a check or refund for the money spent on the stadium and a portion of the profits.

In other words, make the sports team a public organization, rather than a private organization. And when I mean public - instead of generating revenue for the city/county, it actually generated revenue for the tax payers who chipped in.

We both know this would never happen, and the portion returned to the tax payers would be indeed less than what was spent on the stadium and once the money was taken out of the tax payers pocket, it would never be returned in any fashion what so ever.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

A lot of people have speculated that if the Vikings moved to LA, they would be put in the NFC West and the Rams would move to the NFC North.

I guess I wouldn't mind becoming a Rams fan... of course I'm not sure which games would be considered "local" (and thus broadcast on local OTA channels) if the Vikings move. Hard to root for a team when you can't watch them. And no, I'm not paying DirecTV however many millions of dollars they want per month to get their service and Sunday Ticket.

Meh. Most of us would end up rooting for the Packers or maybe "da Bears."

 

[Childs]

Cowboy Stadium cost like $1.3B, and these guys want almost $1B to build a stadium for the Vikings? I wouldnt even think the Vikings franchise is worth that much. If the public pays for the stadium, then it should be public owned. They could use the revenue to fund public works.

I dont think there is any drive in LA to build a new stadium, after Magic Johnson and his group bought the Dodgers for $2B.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Meh. Most of us would end up rooting for the Packers or maybe "da Bears."

I could never root for the Packers.

If the Red Sox skipped town, do you think Bostonians would all of a sudden become Yankee fans?

I do find myself cheering for the Lions more though. I think I can support them, being a luckless franchise like the Vikings (although in a very different way). Also they play against the Packers twice a year so it's just another reason to root for them.

 

[preslove]

The city officials are to blame as far as I’m concerned. The taxpayers will lose a ton of money in tax revenue if the team leaves town. They should have calculated how many years the stadium would last and made an educated guess on how much of a fee to add on to ticket prices. Then when they did need a new stadium they should have the money they would need and keep all the tax revenue.

Whatever revenue that would be generated would be dwarfed by the costs of financing the construction. Public financing of stadiums always loses the public money.

 

[Tim]

Great... just one more thing for Viqueens fans to bitch and moan about.

 

[NutBucket]

?? Is it some kind of burden moving them to Anaheim? The arena is already built...

Its a retarded argument because Honda Center is approximately the same age as the arena the Kings' currently play in. "We can't get a new arena so lets just move to another city with an arena that's just as old and isn't being replaced in the near future".

 

[zinfamous]

lame.

LA will still hate pro football.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

I could never root for the Packers.

If the Red Sox skipped town, do you think Bostonians would all of a sudden become Yankee fans?

I do find myself cheering for the Lions more though. I think I can support them, being a luckless franchise like the Vikings (although in a very different way). Also they play against the Packers twice a year so it's just another reason to root for them.

Proximity trumps.

In the Cities, at least, there are too many 'sconnie bastards running around being all human and shit for The Hate to last forever.

 

[Triumph]

The Vikings really do need a new stadium, sucks that they might be moving. The Vikings/Packers rivalry is great. Would they keep them in the NFC North?

You know, it used to be a hallmark of a great society that it could build lasting monuments to display its prosperity, buildings that would stand for the ages. Not this one, a building is useless after 30 years. And why is it useless? Why is it cheaper to tear it down and build anew, than to fix it? Were people not able to see the field when it was built 30 years ago? Are there not enough bathrooms? Not enough parking? Not warm enough inside of that massive dome? I guess our society has become so powerful that it's not enough to build massive monuments. We are so rich and prosperous that we can build massive monuments, and simply throw them away.

And I don't support taxpayer bailouts of billionaire-owned teams.

 

[TwiceOver]

Well, the only football I watch is MN Vikings football (albeit a pretty shitty version of football). So if they move I guess I don't have to worry about that on Sundays anymore.

 

[*kjm]

Whatever revenue that would be generated would be dwarfed by the costs of financing the construction. Public financing of stadiums always loses the public money.

Just did some fast calculations and your right… with all games sold out with an added $10 (new stadium tax) added you’re only going to generate 307.7 million in thirty years (Metro dome built in 1982).
New stadium cost estimated to cost $870,000,000 or 770,000,000 without sliding roof…. Wikipedia

 

[Atomic Playboy]

You're probably gonna get the Sacramento LA Kings within the next couple of years.
Good fucking riddance to the Maloof Bros.

If there's one thing Los Angeles doesn't have enough of, it's NBA teams.

 

[Childs]

You know, it used to be a hallmark of a great society that it could build lasting monuments to display its prosperity, buildings that would stand for the ages. Not this one, a building is useless after 30 years. And why is it useless? Why is it cheaper to tear it down and build anew, than to fix it? Were people not able to see the field when it was built 30 years ago? Are there not enough bathrooms? Not enough parking? Not warm enough inside of that massive dome? I guess our society has become so powerful that it's not enough to build massive monuments. We are so rich and prosperous that we can build massive monuments, and simply throw them away.

And I don't support taxpayer bailouts of billionaire-owned teams.

Its all about luxury boxes to sell to corporations and rich people. Plus, if he gets the stadium on the peoples dime his franchises worth would double.

 

[preslove]

Just did some fast calculations and your right… with all games sold out with an added $10 (new stadium tax) added you’re only going to generate 307.7 million in thirty years (Metro dome built in 1982).
New stadium cost estimated to cost $870,000,000 or 770,000,000 without sliding roof…. Wikipedia

I looked it up, and the stadium would be publicly owned. Sounds great, right? Wrong. When stadiums are publicly owned, they actually often run a deficit. So, it is more likely that the stadium would NEVER make all the money back.

Again, the 'we'll make the $ up with tax revenue' argument is just a lie concocted to fool idiots.

 

[*kjm]

Again, the 'we'll make the $ up with tax revenue' argument is just a lie concocted to fool idiots.

That is so true.... Like I said they should have put the fee on the ticket price as soon as the last stadium was built in 82. If we could trust them to invest it they would have much more money but could you trust them:whiste: